Originally posted by blueturtle13 The only issue I have with this is some are calling it a reminder or whatever of EverQuest. Just not as good. Why not just go play EQ? or AC? not sure why the need for an 'old school' game when the ones that inspired it are still there? *shrugs*
I never played EQ. But it is a valid point.
We certainly have more than a few variations on theme parks out there as well. There are still some subtle differences to all of them. Probably less old school games out there, I would say, than themepark. And it never hurts to have choices.
The is the silly stuff that needs to stop. Why not just play EQ? BECUASE ITS TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW. Is this really that hard to understand?
There are SO few choices. Most of the new MMOs are the same MMO in different clothes.
So what does fun, exploration, and adventure mean? Those are really vague subjective assertions. What does a game need to do to meet those aspects?
Like I said, it's not my job to figure that out. Oh I have a vision in mind of my dream game....like about a million other people...but even if I typed all of it out nobody would read it. To actually give a detailed description of how I would make a game if I could I would have to type out at least 20 pages of explanation and who the heck would even want to read all of that? It's pointless.
As far as Project Gorgon goes I'll just repeat what I said before. All I can say is that this game didn't make me feel like I was having adventures, it made me feel like I was doing a lot of boring chores. I'm not saying it would make everyone feel that way but that's how it made me feel.
I will say this much about how I personally feel about this stuff. I would honestly prefer a game with no quests at all over a game with tons and tons of tedious chore "quests". I'm not talking about my dream game here, but I actually feel it would be better to just let players obtain skills by killing mobs or something...anything, other than doing trivial tasks involving fetching odds and ends to take back to a npc.
You want to learn necromancy? Go kill the king goblin or something and take his necronomicon book or something like that. No you don't have to report back to a npc afterward. You got the book, you read it, now you have the necromancy skill. No you don't have to collect 10 king goblin turds and stir them in a pot with 5 cat eyeballs and 2 shiny rocks. You killed him, you got the book, you read it,....you now know necromancy, or at least the basics. Oh and no, you don't have to get permission from a npc before you go kill the king goblin. He's just out there and if you stumble on to him without ever having heard of him and kill him and take his book....fine that works. Or maybe another player told you about it. But you shouldn't have to be told to do anything by a npc before you can actually do it. You shouldn't have to go around collecting a list of friggen chores to add to your to-do list.
Just put stuff in the world and let people find it. And let them use it when they find it without having to jump through a bunch of silly hoops. It might not be ideal but it would be a better way of doing things in my opinion.
This is what I've been begging for!!! Just let me kill monstar and collect iten and raise stat and smash bigger monstar
I downloaded PG and although I realize it's an alpha build, it seems almost conceptual still. I was having trouble interacting with npcs and the interface seemed glitchy (alpha problems). It felt so obnoxiously unready that I just closed it and downloaded something else.
The way you describe it it sounds like a lot of chores. I'd rather smash monstars. Nobody wants to feed me monstars anymore they all want me to do quests.
i feel like you only explored one aspect of the game . ive been leveling all my skills without having done a single quest... i got necromancy simply by exploring the depths of the crypt and i also am trying to corner the market on femurs which is working out great right now that new players are vendoring them all for a measly 1 gold ea. the game can be a grind if you want it to be a grind, you can do quests if you want to do quest or you can kill 'monstars' if you want to kill them its up to you how you play thats why its a sandbox and not a themepark mmo. You arent being held by the hand and told where or what to do/go next.
Originally posted by blueturtle13 The only issue I have with this is some are calling it a reminder or whatever of EverQuest. Just not as good. Why not just go play EQ? or AC? not sure why the need for an 'old school' game when the ones that inspired it are still there? *shrugs*
Why do we create new games at all then? Like a new COD every year?
Originally posted by Recore All of these games are the same.
incorrect. I think I've played them all and this isn't like most of them.
This game is actually very decent for what it is. And that makes it better than almost everything I've played in a long time.
no its not a AAA game or anything, and has a lot of loose ends to tie up. But compared to just another korean knockoff or subpar wow clone, it blows them away already.
I try a ton of indie sandbox type games too and this is the first one i actually put more than a couple days into. Most of them are generic and no substance. I'll throw a few bucks into kickstarters or whatever to try games as well because i know someone out there is making a good game. repopulation for instance, i put a good solid 50 hours into that one and it sucks compared to this game in my humble opinion.
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The is the silly stuff that needs to stop. Why not just play EQ? BECUASE ITS TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW. Is this really that hard to understand?
There are SO few choices. Most of the new MMOs are the same MMO in different clothes.
This is what I've been begging for!!!
Just let me kill monstar and collect iten and raise stat and smash bigger monstar 
I downloaded PG and although I realize it's an alpha build, it seems almost conceptual still. I was having trouble interacting with npcs and the interface seemed glitchy (alpha problems). It felt so obnoxiously unready that I just closed it and downloaded something else.
The way you describe it it sounds like a lot of chores. I'd rather smash monstars. Nobody wants to feed me monstars anymore they all want me to do quests.
Why do we create new games at all then? Like a new COD every year?
incorrect. I think I've played them all and this isn't like most of them.
This game is actually very decent for what it is. And that makes it better than almost everything I've played in a long time.
no its not a AAA game or anything, and has a lot of loose ends to tie up. But compared to just another korean knockoff or subpar wow clone, it blows them away already.
I try a ton of indie sandbox type games too and this is the first one i actually put more than a couple days into. Most of them are generic and no substance.
I'll throw a few bucks into kickstarters or whatever to try games as well because i know someone out there is making a good game. repopulation for instance, i put a good solid 50 hours into that one and it sucks compared to this game in my humble opinion.