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Does DC have a Racial problem?

filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
For the PVP of this game DC has always been behind and even with superior numbers they tend to lose maps.  I was wondering if this was a racial problem because looking at their 3 races hey don't seem to have much going for them.  EP has Dark Elves who get bonuses to fire damage and take less fire damage.  Nord's who take 7% less damage from all sources.  AD has Bosner and Khaiit which both have huge bonuses to their Nightblade class.  They also have the Altmer who also has damage bonuses.  DC only has the Orc who gets a bonus to charging attacks.  I think its possible that the bonus damage or damage reduction that EP and AD have are giving them the advantage over DC that is causing them to lose all the time.  It is something to be discussed because you can't just say they lose all the time because they don't have any good guilds.
Are you onto something or just on something?

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  • F0URTWENTYF0URTWENTY Member UncommonPosts: 349
    Originally posted by filmoret
    For the PVP of this game DC has always been behind and even with superior numbers they tend to lose maps.  I was wondering if this was a racial problem because looking at their 3 races hey don't seem to have much going for them.  EP has Dark Elves who get bonuses to fire damage and take less fire damage.  Nord's who take 7% less damage from all sources.  AD has Bosner and Khaiit which both have huge bonuses to their Nightblade class.  They also have the Altmer who also has damage bonuses.  DC only has the Orc who gets a bonus to charging attacks.  I think its possible that the bonus damage or damage reduction that EP and AD have are giving them the advantage over DC that is causing them to lose all the time.  It is something to be discussed because you can't just say they lose all the time because they don't have any good guilds.

     

    You really think the small racial bonuses are a factor? They aren't. Being coordinated in voice chat, timing ultimates and doing focused pushes win fights, not stats.

     

    EP has coordinated guilds that use voice chat, and even more important those guild leaders all communicate with each other and work together. That is the sole reason EP wins even population fights. Off hours/ night capping is a different story and EP's overall population being the highest makes us win campaigns.

  • EhllfhireEhllfhire Member UncommonPosts: 633
    It more is that dc is unorganized and pugging it up like true bads. They don't have any good guilds.

    Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
    PS3

  • vadio123vadio123 Member UncommonPosts: 593

    And its

    blame racial its for losers 

    yes i am d/c and dont see any decent organization (its why i quit)

  • ragz45ragz45 Member UncommonPosts: 810
    Originally posted by Sketch420
    Originally posted by filmoret
    For the PVP of this game DC has always been behind and even with superior numbers they tend to lose maps.  I was wondering if this was a racial problem because looking at their 3 races hey don't seem to have much going for them.  EP has Dark Elves who get bonuses to fire damage and take less fire damage.  Nord's who take 7% less damage from all sources.  AD has Bosner and Khaiit which both have huge bonuses to their Nightblade class.  They also have the Altmer who also has damage bonuses.  DC only has the Orc who gets a bonus to charging attacks.  I think its possible that the bonus damage or damage reduction that EP and AD have are giving them the advantage over DC that is causing them to lose all the time.  It is something to be discussed because you can't just say they lose all the time because they don't have any good guilds.

     

    You really think the small racial bonuses are a factor? They aren't. Being coordinated in voice chat, timing ultimates and doing focused pushes win fights, not stats.

     

    EP has coordinated guilds that use voice chat, and even more important those guild leaders all communicate with each other and work together. That is the sole reason EP wins even population fights. Off hours/ night capping is a different story and EP's overall population being the highest makes us win campaigns.

    We used to have quite a few good coordinated players in AD.  They all quit a while back and went to play GW2 or other games, or outright just switched to EP.  This is all due to EP having almost 90% of the oceanic crowd.  It's just the sad fact of ESO pvp.  With so few campaigns, and zero effort to balance them on ZM's part, it has ruined AvA for every alliance other than EP....

    I would think the utter lack of any opposition has ruined it for EP too... but maybe the players of EP like facerolling through every campaign.

  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    Always amusing to read how PvP players just want fair fights.  When you look at PvP oriented games what happens is people gravitate to the server that wins all the time and rolls over the competition. I agree with other people who want to do away with scoring for these matches. it is supposed to be fun, right?   Then why is a score necessary.  Would it cease being fun without a score?  Would you stop playing?  
  • nolfnolf Member UncommonPosts: 869
    Originally posted by filmoret
    For the PVP of this game DC has always been behind and even with superior numbers they tend to lose maps.  I was wondering if this was a racial problem because looking at their 3 races hey don't seem to have much going for them.  EP has Dark Elves who get bonuses to fire damage and take less fire damage.  Nord's who take 7% less damage from all sources.  AD has Bosner and Khaiit which both have huge bonuses to their Nightblade class.  They also have the Altmer who also has damage bonuses.  DC only has the Orc who gets a bonus to charging attacks.  I think its possible that the bonus damage or damage reduction that EP and AD have are giving them the advantage over DC that is causing them to lose all the time.  It is something to be discussed because you can't just say they lose all the time because they don't have any good guilds.

    Wait, are you actually proposing that racial abilities/stats have any bearing ever on any game?!?!

    *gets popcorn*

    Seriously, OP, PvP is won by communication and coordination.

    EVERYWHERE.  If DC is getting facerolled, it's because they aren't coordinating or communicating as well as the rest.  Accept this basic fact of PvP, for it is indeed a fact.

    Racials have never been significant in any MMO I have ever played.  This is tantamount to dropping a bucket of fresh water into the Atlantic and asking if it is now a lake.

    I really hope that *insert game name here* will be the first game to ever live up to all of its pre-release promises, maintain a manageable hype level and have a clean release. Just don't expect me to hold my breath.

  • EhllfhireEhllfhire Member UncommonPosts: 633
    Originally posted by flizzer
    Always amusing to read how PvP players just want fair fights.  When you look at PvP oriented games what happens is people gravitate to the server that wins all the time and rolls over the competition. I agree with other people who want to do away with scoring for these matches. it is supposed to be fun, right?   Then why is a score necessary.  Would it cease being fun without a score?  Would you stop playing?  

    I would quit  if there was no score, this isn't some liberal everybody wins bs, its pvp. There are winners and losers

    Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
    PS3

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