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Lord of the Rings Online: Legendary System to be Overhauled

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

The Lord of the Rings Online team took to the airwaves to discuss the new way that legendary weapons will be imbued and announced that most of the current legendaries will be grandfathered into the new system. According to the team, legendaries will grow with players.

You can listen and see for yourself on the Lord of the Rings Online Twitch.tv channel.

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  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    "If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,504
    Originally posted by rodingo
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    they need to overhaul the game and tone down all the obtrusive cash shop grabs all over the UI

  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607

    THEY NEED TO OVERHAUL THE GAME AND MAKE IT INTO FFA PVP and I want to be able to kill Frodo!

    ...

    sorry... thread going where it did, I thought the whole point was to veer away from what's reasonable into what individual people wanted personally.

  • RPGMASTERGAMERRPGMASTERGAMER Member UncommonPosts: 516

    with cash shop stone or item ? each 5 level you will need to grind with a 0000.000% chance to drop the next item you need or buy it from the cash shop?

    new grind sound realy fun :)

  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,698
    They should have done the revamp right after Mines of Moria when the players asked them to change it then.. Not years later.
  • angerbeaverangerbeaver Member UncommonPosts: 1,273
    Originally posted by SlyLoK
    They should have done the revamp right after Mines of Moria when the players asked them to change it then.. Not years later.

    +1, I still remember that too

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Originally posted by rodingo
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    They probably should have stuck to their guns, held off for more development, and made the legendary system closer to the actual system it was intended to be as opposed to this "find hundreds of "legendary" items and break them down.

    I hate the legendary system. I hated it when it debuted and I hated the first overhaul. And now we have a second.

    I'll give this a listen.

    edit: and apparently that's what they are going to do, revisit the first idea of one item leveling with you. Good for them. Still listening.
     
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  • ComafComaf Member UncommonPosts: 1,150
    Originally posted by mbrodie
    Originally posted by rodingo
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    they need to overhaul the game and tone down all the obtrusive cash shop grabs all over the UI

    A two or even three faction mmorpg (let's raise the bar, right?  It's 2015).

     

    Overhaul the graphics.

     

    Take a look at Dark Age of Camelot for some 14 year old inspiration on how many classes and races could make up an in depth mmorpg.

     

    Learn how siege and territorial conquest really is the next gen in serious gaming...

     

    /my 2 cents of ignored advice

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Originally posted by Comaf
    Originally posted by mbrodie
    Originally posted by rodingo
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    they need to overhaul the game and tone down all the obtrusive cash shop grabs all over the UI

    A two or even three faction mmorpg (let's raise the bar, right?  It's 2015).

     

    Overhaul the graphics.

     

    Take a look at Dark Age of Camelot for some 14 year old inspiration on how many classes and races could make up an in depth mmorpg.

     

    Learn how siege and territorial conquest really is the next gen in serious gaming...

     

    /my 2 cents of ignored advice

    And what would those factions be? There are only "two factions" in the game. If you want to look at it that way.

     

    well, I take that back, I suppose one could look at it as Saruman/Sauron and free peoples. But I'm of the camp of "don't wreck the lord of the rings story/world for cheap experiences.

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  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092
    Yet an other revamp of the legendary system... Perhaps they should rethink the whole system and start fully anew with it (or remove it completely). I never was a big fan of the system to start with and hated it to redo my legendary items twice already. A 3rd time now for a flawed system? No thanks!
  • kevjardskevjards Member UncommonPosts: 1,452
    The bane of LOTRO .The legendary weapons.Bloody awful and we have been stuck with these monstrosities for years.Ruined the game.Stopped playing cos I felt progression wise I was getting nowhere
  • LithuanianLithuanian Member UncommonPosts: 559

    Now Lotro is offcially pay to win game.

    I thought some "wise" developers were unwise enough to tax general chats ("you are f2p? No general chat then!"). Turbine made it deeper.

    Legendary weapon would have some 40 levels after you "imbue".

    25 levels are free. 15 levels - paid for thousands of mithril coins.

    So far every single game I have heared of was not taxing levels, be it combat, crafting, legendary or anything else. Lotro has made first step towards pay to win model: first, but not last.

    LI system needed re-thinking, but developers made it pay-to-win way. Instead of asking experienced players what can be done, they simply taxed it. It's not overhaul, it's taxing.

    Whart's next stop, Turbine? Taxing combat level? Number of weapons I carry? Crafted items?

    [offtopic]time to revive my thread about new online game: Lotro is just going down, either to Asian grind or some Russian pay-to-win model[/offtopic]

  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614
    Originally posted by Robsolf

     I want to be able to kill Frodo!

    Most annoying/hated character in any movie next to Jar Jar Binks.

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  • Po_ggPo_gg Member EpicPosts: 5,749
    Originally posted by Muke
    Originally posted by Robsolf

     I want to be able to kill Frodo!

    Most annoying/hated character in any movie next to Jar Jar Binks.

    Yep, but that's a PJ thing... at the previous course one of my essays was about how PJ f*cked up Frodo and made him a puny weakling, almost a dead weight on Sam's shoulders :)

     

    A few corrections to the thread as well, it's on Bullroarer since a while, and actually this current news is about the first overhaul according to the responses - most of them an uproar. Hopefully it will be tweaked a bit more... Don't get me wrong, I don't defend the system, I wrote way too many times that the LI grind is the only thing I loathe in LotRO, even the skirms are more bearable, especially with a beorning :)

    I believe LI was a nice idea at launch. Some alternate advancement, with theory crafting and an open way for building is always a good thing. Then with Mirkwood, and even more so after f2p and later RoI it turned into a massive treadmill, and mostly a pointless one, with the constant level cap raise. Personally I wouldn't touch it right now with a 10 foot pole. *edit

    I think this change is like the LI launch over again, just without the short-termed good period. Imbue is a good idea for the current issues. And... pretty much that's it. Everything else in the implementation screams "horrid grind on steroids - but now with a cash shop too".

     

    So, a cookie and a bonus point for the effort of finally acknowledging the LI issues, and coming up with a decent solution. But truckload of minus points for everything else so far. Maybe there will be more changes.

    Also it worths to mention, the other parts of U16 (like Osgiliath for example) seems cool.

     

    *edit: not touching the LI system I mean, not the game, of course. The game is still among my favourites, obviously :)

  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483

    any Hero from WOW could solo the whole LOTR cast

     

  • daltaniousdaltanious Member UncommonPosts: 2,381
    Originally posted by rodingo
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    Was about to say. And they were bad even for the time of release, immagine now. I love LOTR lore, but animations, physics, ... are so literaly disgusting, ... that despited tried few times over past years, I'm unable to play for more then hour or few before leaving for year or so. Even with models I do not have problem, environment, ... all but animations and virtually non existent physic laws. C'mon, you CAN NOT jump while running, turn 180 degrees in air and land even BEFORE jump starting point! Among other problems of course.

  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    Originally posted by rodingo
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    I get so tired of this nonsense.  There is NOTHING wrong with the animations.  No different than any other MMO.  Whining about your perceived issue won't get anything changed either.

  • meonthissitemeonthissite Member UncommonPosts: 917
    Originally posted by mbrodie
    Originally posted by rodingo
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    they need to overhaul the game and tone down all the obtrusive cash shop grabs all over the UI

    Actually those two are fine, they need to overhaul the 2004 leveling system that only the most basic indie game developers use in modern times. If I wanted to spend years playing an MMO on one toon trying to reach max level I'd play STO!

  • bambocheurbambocheur Member UncommonPosts: 8
    I'd welcome a revamp but I'm not really sure that will pay off for them the way a less intrusive cash shop might do for retaining returning players.
  • Po_ggPo_gg Member EpicPosts: 5,749
    Originally posted by meonthissite
    Originally posted by mbrodie
    Originally posted by rodingo
    They need to overhaul the animations, not the legendary system.  *sigh*

    they need to overhaul the game and tone down all the obtrusive cash shop grabs all over the UI

    Actually those two are fine, they need to overhaul the 2004 leveling system that only the most basic indie game developers use in modern times. If I wanted to spend years playing an MMO on one toon trying to reach max level I'd play STO!

    Maybe not the best examples image even if you ignore the Gift of Valar (insta-lvl50) the route to lvl100 takes maybe a few months, with an average playtime (could be 1 month for no-lifers or 6 months for a really casual player). Definitely not years...

    STO is an even worse example, the leveling there is 1-2 months, tops. Heck, I went to VA with one of my captains just by some daily DOff-ing back in the days, and it only took about 2 months... with questing through the seasons I think it won't take more than that even if you're hopping around the Galaxy on one leg :) 

    (edit: but I admit I'm not familiar with the last update, haven't played STO since the winter festival. I'm on a TSW roll lately... image)

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