Originally posted by Shadanwolf As I recall ESO has been asked repeatedly about housing.My recollection is ...lots of fuzzy non commital words...with no commitment to do anything.
Housing? That's a laugh. Most games don't think its necessary. Even if they say they will include it, count on it being really bad like LOTRO and SWTOR "hooks" at best. They won't supply good housing like SWG and EQ2 had/has. And if its not good, its a waste of time.
They have heard the player community loudly on this. It has gone from "not planned" to "we want to do it and do it well, eventually". My guess would be a year or more away.
There's no time-frame for player housing right now. "We want to do it right," Community Manager Jessica Folsom said. Guar mounts are also planned sans timeline.
As for player housing, it's on the back burner. "I will tell you that when we get to player housing, and I think it's one of those things that when you have a game that's been running a long time it's one of those things you want to get to, it has to be something that's done differently and done well," Sage said. "That's about all I can tell you. We have no firm plans for anything on housing at this time."
There's no time-frame for player housing right now. "We want to do it right," Community Manager Jessica Folsom said. Guar mounts are also planned sans timeline.
As for player housing, it's on the back burner. "I will tell you that when we get to player housing, and I think it's one of those things that when you have a game that's been running a long time it's one of those things you want to get to, it has to be something that's done differently and done well," Sage said. "That's about all I can tell you. We have no firm plans for anything on housing at this time."
Does not sound like it will be anytime soon. I wish they had it though, someplace to put all those trophy items.
Key rider to the quote above: it was made in May last year. Since then the game has gone b2p.
What does that mean?
Under a subscription model the developers decide what they will work on based on internal factors; of course they have one eye on "looking attractive" to subscribers but you get phased releases, things being put on hold (IC), people pulled off content to work on bug fixing and so forth.
Changing to a B2P + DLC model changes the business dynamic. In a nutshell it is more "brutally commercial" and "less artistic".
So a year ago the view was no housing for years and years until they could deliver a 5 star Michelin experience; and subscribers could sit around saying ver' ver' good show if they wanted to. And maybe in 2020 - voila! The perfect housing experience - for anyone still around. In the harsh DLC world no new content, no money. More accurately: no DLC that people want to buy no money.
And - interestingly enough - they could include housing as part of a DLC pack or they could add housing as an item in the cash shop. Different materials, different sizes; they could sell extensions, gardens .....
If this thought hasn't occurred to Zenimax yet - well maybe they will read about it in a forum.
i think there are no plans for housing in the near future, but i do hope they add something along the lines of the Hearthfire DLC from Skyrim. That housing system was really cool. I would like to have a house and modify it in that same way in ESO. I dont care if its instanced or not, as long as it can be modified extensibly.
Maybe housing can play a big part in the justice system? ESO needs to start working on that.
Key rider to the quote above: it was made in May last year. Since then the game has gone b2p.
What does that mean?
Under a subscription model the developers decide what they will work on based on internal factors; of course they have one eye on "looking attractive" to subscribers but you get phased releases, things being put on hold (IC), people pulled off content to work on bug fixing and so forth.
Changing to a B2P + DLC model changes the business dynamic. In a nutshell it is more "brutally commercial" and "less artistic".
So a year ago the view was no housing for years and years until they could deliver a 5 star Michelin experience; and subscribers could sit around saying ver' ver' good show if they wanted to. And maybe in 2020 - voila! The perfect housing experience - for anyone still around. In the harsh DLC world no new content, no money. More accurately: no DLC that people want to buy no money.
And - interestingly enough - they could include housing as part of a DLC pack or they could add housing as an item in the cash shop. Different materials, different sizes; they could sell extensions, gardens .....
If this thought hasn't occurred to Zenimax yet - well maybe they will read about it in a forum.
Thats true, anything can change with the shift to BTP, but considering that anything signficant is on hold until after the console release (and probably ensuring that is stable even after release) coupled with all of the other high priority items (Spell Crafting, Dark Brotherhood, removal of the Veteran Ranks, PVP updates, new solo content, etc)...I highly doublt we are going to see any housing in 2015 or early 2016.
For some.....housing is a real anchor to a world we have chosen to live in. IT'S MY PLACE. it's a reason to feel apart of the world...rather than just a game to log in .
For some.....outstanding housing........... is similar to the difference between living in an apartment vs owning your own home.
Originally posted by Gestankfaust Why is housing still so important? We have Facebook and Farmville for the needs it would provide.
no offense, but that really is a silly comment. Though I'm not at all into housing, its not always about what I think. There are a ton of players who feel that it makes the game feel more immersive and adds to the RPG aspect. Anything that makes players feel more immersed is a good thing. Why would you think differently if it makes others happy?
I am one of those that would love to see some type of housing in ESO. If they go this route I hope they allow for public housing plots (AC and UO) or perhaps city apts (EQ2).
I love LOTRO, but their instanced housing zones was an epic fail for me. The extra storage and collectible hooks are a bonus but the potential for housing in terms of community and creating social hubs was lost.
In EQ2 the idea of having an address in a city offered some added benefits but still lacked a certain pride of ownership. I havent played EQ2 in a few years so this may have changed, but that was my exp. at the time.
AC was my 2nd favorite in terms of housing. Having a guild house along a well traveled route with a custom facade and the trappings of successful adventures just seemed to complete the whole experience.
UO was without a doubt my favorite housing experience. Our guild built a whole town with towers and storefronts just north of Trinsic. On its own our town added countless reasons to play.
With that said I have to imagine that any housing development will be quite the undertaking and way way in the future. I have a feeling I might have moved on by the time housing becomes a reality but hope lives on.
Del Cabon A US Army ('Just Cause') Vet and MMORPG Native formerly of Trinsic, Norath and Dereth. Currently playing LOTRO.
Isn't this game into a auto pilot mod with B2P? I am pretty sure I grasped that information on some official post here and there. Major updates such as housing? Maybe in few years(which is not likely to happen at all).
Originally posted by Gestankfaust Why is housing still so important? We have Facebook and Farmville for the needs it would provide.
no offense, but that really is a silly comment. Though I'm not at all into housing, its not always about what I think. There are a ton of players who feel that it makes the game feel more immersive and adds to the RPG aspect. Anything that makes players feel more immersed is a good thing. Why would you think differently if it makes others happy?
How is housing in any way related to the RPG? I always thought housing is a feature of games like Sims (game simmulations) and not RPG, which was always about character advancement and underlaying mechanics.
Housing have been part of Elder scrolls since Daggerfall so they really should add it and I assume it eventually will be added, possibly in an expansion or through the itemshop.
Guildhalls on the other hand never been part of the series (since all earlier ES games besdies "Battlespire" been sologames). I don't think they will add them unless there is a massive call for the feature from the players.
How is housing in any way related to the RPG? I always thought housing is a feature of games like Sims (game simmulations) and not RPG, which was always about character advancement and underlaying mechanics.
In roleplaying there are more things to advance your character with then just levels, gear and stats. Housing, titles and followers is also character advancement.
A buddy of mine spent months in Daggerfall as a broker, buying and selling houses to make his fortune instead of doing dungeons. Roleplaying is about more than just combat and crafting. Stuff like this should however be optional, it will addflavor to the people who enjoys it without making the game less fun for the rest of the players.
Originally posted by BalianWolfie Isn't this game into a auto pilot mod with B2P? I am pretty sure I grasped that information on some official post here and there. Major updates such as housing? Maybe in few years(which is not likely to happen at all).
Nope, they are going to release DLCs to make money, so the game will see new major updates.
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Does not sound like it will be anytime soon. I wish they had it though, someplace to put all those trophy items.
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Key rider to the quote above: it was made in May last year. Since then the game has gone b2p.
What does that mean?
Under a subscription model the developers decide what they will work on based on internal factors; of course they have one eye on "looking attractive" to subscribers but you get phased releases, things being put on hold (IC), people pulled off content to work on bug fixing and so forth.
Changing to a B2P + DLC model changes the business dynamic. In a nutshell it is more "brutally commercial" and "less artistic".
So a year ago the view was no housing for years and years until they could deliver a 5 star Michelin experience; and subscribers could sit around saying ver' ver' good show if they wanted to. And maybe in 2020 - voila! The perfect housing experience - for anyone still around. In the harsh DLC world no new content, no money. More accurately: no DLC that people want to buy no money.
And - interestingly enough - they could include housing as part of a DLC pack or they could add housing as an item in the cash shop. Different materials, different sizes; they could sell extensions, gardens .....
If this thought hasn't occurred to Zenimax yet - well maybe they will read about it in a forum.
i think there are no plans for housing in the near future, but i do hope they add something along the lines of the Hearthfire DLC from Skyrim. That housing system was really cool. I would like to have a house and modify it in that same way in ESO. I dont care if its instanced or not, as long as it can be modified extensibly.
Maybe housing can play a big part in the justice system? ESO needs to start working on that.
Thats true, anything can change with the shift to BTP, but considering that anything signficant is on hold until after the console release (and probably ensuring that is stable even after release) coupled with all of the other high priority items (Spell Crafting, Dark Brotherhood, removal of the Veteran Ranks, PVP updates, new solo content, etc)...I highly doublt we are going to see any housing in 2015 or early 2016.
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For some.....housing is a real anchor to a world we have chosen to live in. IT'S MY PLACE. it's a reason to feel apart of the world...rather than just a game to log in .
For some.....outstanding housing........... is similar to the difference between living in an apartment vs owning your own home.
no offense, but that really is a silly comment. Though I'm not at all into housing, its not always about what I think. There are a ton of players who feel that it makes the game feel more immersive and adds to the RPG aspect. Anything that makes players feel more immersed is a good thing. Why would you think differently if it makes others happy?
There Is Always Hope!
I am one of those that would love to see some type of housing in ESO. If they go this route I hope they allow for public housing plots (AC and UO) or perhaps city apts (EQ2).
I love LOTRO, but their instanced housing zones was an epic fail for me. The extra storage and collectible hooks are a bonus but the potential for housing in terms of community and creating social hubs was lost.
In EQ2 the idea of having an address in a city offered some added benefits but still lacked a certain pride of ownership. I havent played EQ2 in a few years so this may have changed, but that was my exp. at the time.
AC was my 2nd favorite in terms of housing. Having a guild house along a well traveled route with a custom facade and the trappings of successful adventures just seemed to complete the whole experience.
UO was without a doubt my favorite housing experience. Our guild built a whole town with towers and storefronts just north of Trinsic. On its own our town added countless reasons to play.
With that said I have to imagine that any housing development will be quite the undertaking and way way in the future. I have a feeling I might have moved on by the time housing becomes a reality but hope lives on.
Del Cabon
A US Army ('Just Cause') Vet and MMORPG Native formerly of Trinsic, Norath and Dereth. Currently playing LOTRO.
How is housing in any way related to the RPG? I always thought housing is a feature of games like Sims (game simmulations) and not RPG, which was always about character advancement and underlaying mechanics.
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Housing have been part of Elder scrolls since Daggerfall so they really should add it and I assume it eventually will be added, possibly in an expansion or through the itemshop.
Guildhalls on the other hand never been part of the series (since all earlier ES games besdies "Battlespire" been sologames). I don't think they will add them unless there is a massive call for the feature from the players.
In roleplaying there are more things to advance your character with then just levels, gear and stats. Housing, titles and followers is also character advancement.
A buddy of mine spent months in Daggerfall as a broker, buying and selling houses to make his fortune instead of doing dungeons. Roleplaying is about more than just combat and crafting. Stuff like this should however be optional, it will addflavor to the people who enjoys it without making the game less fun for the rest of the players.
Nope, they are going to release DLCs to make money, so the game will see new major updates.
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