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EvE online, and playerbase

wouter445wouter445 Member Posts: 7

I have a long history with EvE online.

i played it quite a while when it was released, stop playing after 4 years.

lost my original account, created a account a year ago, stop playing do to playerbase.

*i like mining, they making game miserable* one day i was suicide killed in 0.6 space just for kicks.

 

now, i wonder (can't post on EvE forums, is the game still rulled by psychopaths?

 

also wonders, if i still MMO legit, i really don't care about PvP, i feeling way to old for it it's just nonsens.

to even give a damn about it.

 

sudden i just total give up on MMO's and move on my next fase in life, that's single player games?

and never return to MMOs, *reason i say that is that most MMO's talk about how good their sh*t pvp is and blah blah.

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  • HowbadisbadHowbadisbad Member UncommonPosts: 453

    Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths.

    This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail.

    http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html

    Waiting for:
    The Repopulation
    Albion Online

  • wouter445wouter445 Member Posts: 7
    Originally posted by Howbadisbad

    Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths.

    This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail.

    http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html

     

    not really my question, but from that i take it that EvE online is still same as left it a year ago.

  • Agent_JosephAgent_Joseph Member UncommonPosts: 1,361
    Originally posted by Howbadisbad

    Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths.

    This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail.

    http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html

    yes , EVE is not for him !

    before start playing EVE ,He should research about what is EVE,it is not game about space ships it is game about players interactions, there is many ways for that .Eve is not hard game it is different game on mmo market !

     

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQvKSs1k6DLO6iVoip6ZUa5xiG1Ak7hW_

  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004

    Eve is still a game you have to do your home work on before you play.  Players still jump in, head out to the dangerous parts of space and plead for their lives, then I hear a, "Ha! Ha!" from the pirates that destroyed them. 

     

    Join a good corp. that will walk you through the basics of needed skills training.  Or just read the forums (official and pirate sites) a lot, as there is lots of information about pirates by pirates which tell you exactly what they do and how they do it.  This allows you to make yourself less of a target.

     

    There are some very helpful people in Eve, you just have to find them.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • HowbadisbadHowbadisbad Member UncommonPosts: 453


    Originally posted by wouter445
    Originally posted by Howbadisbad Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths. This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html
     

    not really my question, but from that i take it that EvE online is still same as left it a year ago.


    Your question was if EVE was ruled by psychopaths, my answer was no, and it never has been.

    Waiting for:
    The Repopulation
    Albion Online

  • wouter445wouter445 Member Posts: 7
    Originally posted by Howbadisbad

     


    Originally posted by wouter445

    Originally posted by Howbadisbad Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths. This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html
     

     

    not really my question, but from that i take it that EvE online is still same as left it a year ago.


     

    Your question was if EVE was ruled by psychopaths, my answer was no, and it never has been.

     

    Psychopathy (/a?kpθ?o?i?<span title="/

  • GardavsshadeGardavsshade Member UncommonPosts: 907

    EvE Online is made for Players that want to RolePlay Evil / Selfish / Meanspirited / Machiavellian Characters as well as many other personality types. It's made that way on purpose. The Sandbox freedom of gameplay allows characters of any moral/ethical compass direction to be played, but the game defiantly encourages the "bad boy" experience. The game rewards those who have forgotten the "Ancient Laws" of acceptable human behavior  ( which makes sense from a storyline standpoint because New Eden Star cluster has been cut off from contact with Earth for tens of thousands of years. The lessons of the past have been forgotten.)

     

    I play it and I will give you some advice: Enter at your own risk.

     

     

     

  • AreWeLiveAreWeLive Member UncommonPosts: 202

    So I have been playing eve-online off and on since early beta, before cruisers were even in the game..yesterday while flying threw high sec afk in an empty shuttle i heard my notification go off twice and thought,  damn sounds like i am dead, come back to my computer and see i lost my ship and got poded. 

     I looked at my kill mails, saw some -10 pirate choose me for a random kill and judging from his info he targets older players that are easy kills for pod kills, he displays expensive pod kills in is bio. 

     Anyway, in all my time playing this game, it was the first first time i have been randomly killed, it sure does not happen often and really the % of the player base that do this is actually quiet low. If i was not flying afk it would not have happened at all. Most (not all) ganks and preventable buy doing things in the right way. I did not do it the right way so I accept responsabilty for my loss.

     EVE is a great game but if your not willing to learn how to play it, accept losses and learn from your mistakes, then this game might not be for you. 

  • JonBonJawaJonBonJawa Member UncommonPosts: 489

    took a break for half a year but I'm on board for 6 months sub now

    haven't seen any psychopaths, can mine and trade in high sec mostly without troubles, for action and drama Nullsec is as nasty and sandboxy as ever

     

  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Member UncommonPosts: 1,592
    Originally posted by wouter445
    Originally posted by Howbadisbad

     


    Originally posted by wouter445

    Originally posted by Howbadisbad Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths. This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html
     

     

    not really my question, but from that i take it that EvE online is still same as left it a year ago.


     

    Your question was if EVE was ruled by psychopaths, my answer was no, and it never has been.

     

    Psychopathy (/a?kpθ?o?i?<span title="/

    <3

  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Originally posted by wouter445
    Originally posted by Howbadisbad

     


    Originally posted by wouter445

    Originally posted by Howbadisbad Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths. This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html
     

     

    not really my question, but from that i take it that EvE online is still same as left it a year ago.


     

    Your question was if EVE was ruled by psychopaths, my answer was no, and it never has been.

     

    Psychopathy (/a?kpθ?o?i?<span title="/

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Gardavsshade

    EvE Online is made for Players that want to RolePlay Evil / Selfish / Meanspirited / Machiavellian Characters as well as many other personality types. It's made that way on purpose. The Sandbox freedom of gameplay allows characters of any moral/ethical compass direction to be played, but the game defiantly encourages the "bad boy" experience. The game rewards those who have forgotten the "Ancient Laws" of acceptable human behavior  ( which makes sense from a storyline standpoint because New Eden Star cluster has been cut off from contact with Earth for tens of thousands of years. The lessons of the past have been forgotten.) 

    I play it and I will give you some advice: Enter at your own risk.

    The best part of it all is that they can separate the game from the player. A couple weeks ago I hung out with hundreds of EVE players at Fanfest and it was an incredible example of community and camaraderie. Does EVE have some players that can't separate the two? Sure, just like every other game. 

     

    @OP

    What's notable is your comment about getting killed being a breaking point. That seems to stir a different reaction in people, I guess. The first time I got blown up was the beginning of a whole new game for me. CCP Rise mentioned an interesting statistic and, while more delving is needed to identify how much causation we have there, but... of an 80k player sample, players who died in their first 15 days were more likely to continue playing than those that didn't die. 

    Now, this is not to say there is anything wrong or bad about those that leave because they got popped. It's just not a game for them, and that's fine. The thing to do there is acknowledge that instead of jumping straight to sweeping generalizations and insults.

     

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  • GardavsshadeGardavsshade Member UncommonPosts: 907
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by Gardavsshade

    EvE Online is made for Players that want to RolePlay Evil / Selfish / Meanspirited / Machiavellian Characters as well as many other personality types. It's made that way on purpose. The Sandbox freedom of gameplay allows characters of any moral/ethical compass direction to be played, but the game defiantly encourages the "bad boy" experience. The game rewards those who have forgotten the "Ancient Laws" of acceptable human behavior  ( which makes sense from a storyline standpoint because New Eden Star cluster has been cut off from contact with Earth for tens of thousands of years. The lessons of the past have been forgotten.) 

    I play it and I will give you some advice: Enter at your own risk.

    The best part of it all is that they can separate the game from the player. A couple weeks ago I hung out with hundreds of EVE players at Fanfest and it was an incredible example of community and camaraderie. Does EVE have some players that can't separate the two? Sure, just like every other game. 

     

    @OP

    What's notable is your comment about getting killed being a breaking point. That seems to stir a different reaction in people, I guess. The first time I got blown up was the beginning of a whole new game for me. CCP Rise mentioned an interesting statistic and, while more delving is needed to identify how much causation we have there, but... of an 80k player sample, players who died in their first 15 days were more likely to continue playing than those that didn't die. 

    Now, this is not to say there is anything wrong or bad about those that leave because they got popped. It's just not a game for them, and that's fine. The thing to do there is acknowledge that instead of jumping straight to sweeping generalizations and insults.

     

    I may see things others don't, but this to me is the biggest difference between EVE and other MMOs....

    ...What some Players of EVE don't realize or remember is that in general terms RolePlay in MMOs is dead, or almost dead. What you see from other Players pretty much is who they are, no masks.

    ...What some players of MMOs that never tried EVE, or are new to it, don't realize is Roleplay in EVE is very much still going. It's an integral part of the gameplay itself, the game is designed to almost insist a Player play a role, and not in an obvious way, but a quiet subtle way that slowly creeps up on a Player. There are Players that don't roleplay, but there are still many that do in EVE and that makes generalizations off base.

    It changes how Players old to EVE see things verses how new Players and never Players see EVE, because of the assumptions Players make without realizing it, such as assuming the guy that ganked you is a pychopath, or that the guy that stole all the Corp assests is a catburglar in real life. The guy might be a Police Officer irl for all we know lol.

    I won't blame the Player who tries EVE and leaves because they think everyone is bad... because in other MMOs very few People are roleplaying anything (in my experience), and in other MMOs their assessment would be valid, but they don't know EVE the way the Vets do. I think that part of EVE needs to be emphasized even more to new Players than it is right now.

     

     

  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,033
    Yeah dont feel bad I never "got" Eve either.....I found it very boring and to pay for a game where the goal is to take everything from others no thanks.
  • JonBonJawaJonBonJawa Member UncommonPosts: 489
    if they could somehow make it happen to put DUST and Valkyire into 1 single PC client, add a bit more of avatar stuff, then maybe make it buy2play or offer liftetime subs, that would be the most incredible mega game, far beyond what SC promises for 2016
  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614
    Originally posted by wouter445

     not really my question, but from that i take it that EvE online is still same as left it a year ago.

    If you are wondering if people will kill you to get rich from your mistakes, then yes, EVE is still like that.

    You still have to use your brain and yes, "do not fly what you can't afford to lose" is still a golden rule.

     

    Originally posted by MoreOfTheSame
    if they could somehow make it happen to put DUST and Valkyire into 1 single PC client, add a bit more of avatar stuff, then maybe make it buy2play or offer liftetime subs, that would be the most incredible mega game, far beyond what SC promises for 2016

    Not possible, 2 combat systems in the same fight will not work, also 1 combat system might have a unfair advantage over the other. Like 1st person vs tab targeting/level based combat skills vs console controls.

    They might connect it like Dus and EVE, but not in the same fight.

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  • HowbadisbadHowbadisbad Member UncommonPosts: 453


    Originally posted by wouter445

    Originally posted by Howbadisbad  

    Originally posted by wouter445

    Originally posted by Howbadisbad Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths. This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html
        not really my question, but from that i take it that EvE online is still same as left it a year ago.
      Your question was if EVE was ruled by psychopaths, my answer was no, and it never has been.
     

    Psychopathy (/a?kp??o?i?æi/) is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.

     ganking miners for no reason at all fits the profile with playerbase of EvE online.


    You should really read a reply before you post, the link i provided told you in the first two lines that you were not ganked for no reason.

    http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html

    To answer your question: you were ganked because you were an easy and lucrative target.

    So no, those players are not psychopaths, they are opportunists who happened to find some easy money in blowing you up.

    Waiting for:
    The Repopulation
    Albion Online

  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829

    If you don't like players killing you I think EvE will never be the game for you.

    Maybe look into Elite Dangerous or hold out for Star Citizen if you want a space sim? Or play Star Conflict?

    I'm sure there are alternatives that don't have the open PvP problem.

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,093
    EVE playerbase is a yin and yang situation, some of the best, most helpful players, and some of the worst because the game provides many opportunities for both behaviors.

    You will lose ships, nature of the game, though by flying smart you can avoid it most times.

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  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    EVE playerbase is a yin and yang situation, some of the best, most helpful players, and some of the worst because the game provides many opportunities for both behaviors.

    You will lose ships, nature of the game, though by flying smart you can avoid it most times.

     

    Indeed.

    Lots of genuinely great gamers playing and a sizeable number of pricks; keeps things interesting.

    If you can't afford to lose a particular ship, leave it docked. Go out with what you can afford to lose and have fun.

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  • H3avyM3talH3avyM3tal Member UncommonPosts: 6
    The nature of the game is also some of the most thought provoking I've encountered. I can understand the complaints when looking at the rest of the games out there, and what they provide pvp-wise.

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  • chasingthedragonchasingthedragon Member Posts: 1
    Originally posted by dreamscaper
    Originally posted by wouter445
    Originally posted by Howbadisbad

     


    Originally posted by wouter445

    Originally posted by Howbadisbad Amazing how because people killed you in a PVP game you call them psychopaths. This game is clearly not for you if you cant handle being suicide ganked with a bad miner fit by someone looking for a quick buck or killmail. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html
     

     

    not really my question, but from that i take it that EvE online is still same as left it a year ago.


     

    Your question was if EVE was ruled by psychopaths, my answer was no, and it never has been.

     

    Psychopathy (/a?kpθ?o?i?<span title="/

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