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AMD Radeon HD R9 270 GDDR5 of 2 GB
How is this card ? I ask because I usually buy Nvidia and this might be my first Radeon and it was an option in the Dell I might buy compared to a Geforce 750 Ti but the power consumption on the Radeon is much higher. I ask because whenever a game comes out there are usually less complaints from Nvdia and I worry about driver support or generally a game being more optimized to Nvdia. Do you think I should buy this card for my new computer ?
I have no experience with Radeon cards have only ever bought Nvdia so I am not trying to insult any supporters or anything just uninformed I am.
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i look this wrecked because i've got GIST.
Whats your excuse?
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Driver support on Radon card might be a bit worse than for NVidia card, but the difference is so small it doesn't matter. NVidia or AMD doesn't matter, just pick the graphic card that offers best performance per dollar.
If you prefer NVidia and were assembling a computer yourself, you could buy a NVidia card as well as Radeon card. At that price range both manufacturers have good cards available. If Dell is limiting your choice and your options are Feforce 750 TI or R9 270, then definitely pick R9 270 for a gaming computer. It offers a lot more performance than 750 TI.
It is not a bad card.
I have used AMD cards for years and have been very happy with them. Not that I am a dedicated fan of the brand, but at the time of purchase they were the best bang for the buck.
However the 270x is a lower end GPU, as is the 750ti. I would consider those budget cards. Both can be had for roughly $150 or less depending on the sales & rebates on any given day.
I would advise to at least go to a GTX 960 or a 280x. Buying a 270x today it would be an OK card to have, but a year from now not so much. There is one on sale at newegg for $130 after rebate if that tells you anything. Its cheap for a reason, budget builds...
Dell will sell you an expensive PC with a budget PC card in it. All for a premium price banking on people not knowing the difference. My bet is that is exactly what your looking at.
If you just MUST buy a dell then you may just be screwed with those options. I would for sure look and see what other configurations they may have.
They can and will sell you a PC in a screwed up configuration. Like 24g RAM..... o.O
Thank you Vrika we're ordering it in a bit as soon as husband does it since it's all in Italian . Yes only those choices I am limited to thanks a lot it helped me decide.
I am upgrading from a Geforce 580 GTX.
If the computer has that much RAM, then I'd suggest looking for other options. Even R9 270 is a budged level gaming card for a cheap gaming computer, if the computer offered by Dell isn't cheap then don't buy it at all.
The 270 is the better card of the two. However, if the configurator is giving you stupid options like 32GB RAM with a 270 GPU then shop elsewhere or you are going to be taken for a fool by Dell.
For whatever you are paying them people here will likely be able to find you better specs for less money.
Edit - 1500 euros? There's no way you should be settling with the Dell build for that money.
No offense to you or your husband. But from your other posts he is insisting you buy from Dell.
Just be prepared to get screwed on the price and configuration. If you guys just refuse to look for other options and overpaying in the extreme for a bad PC is OK with you then have at it... =(
Hell at that point I may just get on the phone with dell and see if they can actually let you configure something sensible through a phone order.
Both an AMD 270 and a 750ti are slower than a GTX 580. Going with your suggested build you will end up with a slower PC gaming wise than you already have.
Indeed.
On the plus side maybe she can install the 580 in the new system o.O
Jeez for 1500 euros I am just stunned you are actually considering buying that PC.
Why?? if I may ask MUST you use Dell.
I know we have many people from europe on these boards who can point you towards a better vendor in EU
I think that AMD 270 is an upgrade from 580 GTX. Geforce 750 TI is not.
In any case, even AMD 270 is so small upgrade that it's not really worth upgrading. With 1 500 euros you should be able to buy something much better than AMD 270 for gaming.
If you've got GTX 580, what are the rest of the specs on your old computer? It sounds like a computer that should still run nearly any game in existence, and if it's not maybe you could just switch one part to better instead of buying a complete computer.
Oh had not realised the Geforce 580 Gtx was a faster card hmm okay will have to see for the Geforce 770 GTX or the Radeon R9 290X then thanks for the help.
I think from the discussion she started in this thread http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/430648/My-computer-is-dying-.html that a Dell it is going to be no matter what.
All I can say is that if you are buying a Dell for the replacement part warranty service there is a reason the PC parts need replacing. Because it is a Dell.
I think another poster said it best in that thread.
The only thing better than having someone come and fix your broken computer is not having one that breaks in the first place....
I sincerely wish I did not have to buy another computer but in spite of removing all the offending USB port connection it started happening again today I am down to my keyboard,mouse and speaker ports with one extra for my portable hard drive so I have no choice the computer is definitely not working well any more.I even opened it up to see if that bay was loose or something but i failed to see anything.
I know you must be quite disgusted with this utter waste but ....
Got the one Quizz suggested AMD Radeon™ R9 290X Alienware but I chose a 8GB RAM . Pity had to buy the monitor separately. Back to the monster huge case well at least no heating issues.
At least you have a more sensible configuration. The 290x is a beast of a card and should handle everything you throw at it with no problem.
I would check and see if you have 2 sticks of RAM in there tho. Should be 2x4gb sticks instead of one 8gb stick. If you only have one stick then you can easily buy another 8gb stick and put in there. For DDR memory you will need 2 sticks to get the full use.
otherwise enjoy your new PC
The AMD Radeon 290X according to the Dell forums seem to have heat issues. Quite a few threads on this saying the card is both very noisy and runs very hot. This worries me as I am getting the Alienware Aurora the choices are the Geforce 770 GTX , Geforce 760Ti and the Radeon 290X.
How bad is this heat issue does anyone know ?
i dont think its that bad but im not sure
There is cataloged issues with the 290 and 290x cards as far as heating goes. If you're able to buy an MSI or HIS version of the card, you'll have slightly better temps. As they both utilize a more efficient heatsink system that the AMD and XFX manufactured cards. The reason for the heating issue is the data transfer rate and efficiency from the 4GB of GDDR memory. If you don't have sufficient airflow (such as a 220MM sidewall fan as well as front-access or top access intake fans) then you should avoid those cards. Even if the cards themselves operate fine under load with those temps. You will be raising the ambient temperature for the entire system. which means your CPU heatsink will have to work harder to stay cool, and your RAM may get a little hotter which effects performance. Though, if you have a watercooled CPU, then that won't matter for the CPU. However, with less internal fans running due to the lack of a heatsink over a watercooler. Your ambient temp may get even hotter, effecting your cards and RAM more.
If you want a good balance between performance, power consumption, and temperature regulating to reduce stress on the whole computer. Then I strongly recommend going with the R9 280x, or at least the 280 if you can't afford or get a deal on a 280X. The downside to these cards is they have one gig less of onboard memory. But it's due to this one less gig that they don't have the same heating issue. I'm using an MSI R9 280, which cost me $175 from Newegg. It's overclocked to run core speeds at 1380Mhz and 1520Mhz boost clock. So I've got total performance to match the R9 290's without the heating issues.
As others have hinted at, but haven't come right out to say. If you're going to have a gaming computer, that's not a laptop. You REALLY need to learn about all the components and software, and build it yourself. You not only save money in the long run. You'll also have a better understanding on how everything works and how to fix minor and major issues yourself. Which leads to being able to overclock, and get even more out of your hardware than you could normally.
If you just look at performance, a GeForce GTX 580 is typically going to be a little faster than a Radeon R9 270 and substantially faster than a GeForce GTX 750 Ti.
I had ignored the Dell XPS model that you were looking at in another thread on the basis that it was obviously not a gaming rig at all. I hope that's not what you're actually getting.
The Radeon R9 290X has a PowerTune cap of 275 W. In practical gaming use, it will put out substantially less heat than that. Cooling a video card that can dissipate up to 275 W isn't terribly hard to do if you build for it. Nearly any R9 290X you find will be fine, so long as you have ample case airflow.
Of course, considering that you're buying from Dell, there's a decent chance that they'll manage to find a version of the card with an inadequate cooler or sell you a case that doesn't have the airflow it needs. Or both.
I understand that the OP doesn't wish to build a PC. I would still argue that maybe Dell isn't the best option and alternative PC manufacturers might do more good than rambling off parts. If she doesn't wish to void warranty, or waste more money, maybe some other Europeans could suggest a good PC boutique shop, in Europe, that's provides excellent service?
I'm in the US, so my suggestions would only come from a quick google search. Anyone can do that, so hopefully the OP can get some one from Europe to provide a good suggestion from first hand experience.