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Most immersive mellee combat

Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

What MMO has in your opinion the most immersive mellee combat system?

 

and please can you explain why ?

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

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  • Morgenes83Morgenes83 Member UncommonPosts: 287

    Mortal Online

     

    -1st person view only

    -Aktive hitting and blocking

    -swings cost stamina (no swinging all the time)

    -striking areas (head, body, left/right arm, left/right leg)

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  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791

    Its not really a MMO. But for a realistic melee combat i'd go for Warframe. The Damage 2.0 system is really nice. 

     

    Other than that i'd say ... vindictus? The rest are subpar. 

     

    Maybe TERA. The lancer is pretty fun because you are actually blocking in there, its not a passive trait. 

  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230

    I find combat in even Mount & Blade could use some work to make it feel more "immersive" (whatever that means...).

    Some combination of Dark Souls, Mount & Blade and Guild Wars 1 skill design could possible do it for me, I don't know.

    MMOs are just plain bad at this.

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  • centkincentkin Member RarePosts: 1,527

    Vindictus kind of nailed this. 

     

    It is a shame that Tera wasn't nearly as good at doing this style of combat.

    I also liked Cabal 1's combat system prior to where comboing was pushed aside to special attacks.

  • UNH0LYEV1LUNH0LYEV1L Member UncommonPosts: 572
    Age of Conan. Watch some videos on comboing.
  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    Well, I enjoy Wildstar. Yes, I know it's hard to be immersive in a cartoon game, but I'm talking about combat immersion. I honestly believe WS has the best action combat of any mmorpg. WIldstars AI makes it impossible to stand toe to toe with mobs like in most other games. Rolling and dodging to me are more realistic in a fight, and it assists in the fun of the game.

    For combat immersion on a more serious real life level, I would have to choose ESO. Using the mouse to swing and block, along with normal action bar skills makes it a top contender.  Although the combat is a bit more clunky than WS, and the overall combat mechanics are different, I would put it as my second title.

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  • vadio123vadio123 Member UncommonPosts: 593

    Mortal Online ............

    Without any question

  • NeblessNebless Member RarePosts: 1,877

    Age of Conan.

    One of the few games where I actually feel I've some control over the fight.

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  • DJJazzyDJJazzy Member UncommonPosts: 2,053

    Not sure how to interpret the question here, as in I don't really know what immersive means in the context of video games.

    If you mean that your character really looks like it is being hit and can "feel" the combat, then I'd probably go along with Vindictus and Age of Conan. Never played Mortal Online so can't say anything about that.

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,224
    Come on, mortal online really?

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  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078

    While not exactly a mmo, it is a GRANDE multiplayer game.  It is also the most immersive melee combat oriented game you can play!! EVER!! There is no single game in existence that currently has the gameplay and mechanics of Chilvalry.

    A link to the vids..  Game is completely melee BRUTAL!!  http://store.steampowered.com/app/219640/

    With a huge variety of weapons and gear and many many playstyles.  Your character is distinctly yours.  With no other player being like you.

     

    Enjoy the trailers.. Enjoy the game even MORE!

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    What MMO has in your opinion the most immersive mellee combat system?

     

    and please can you explain why ?

    marvel heroes?

    Because the combat skills capture the look & feel in the movies & comic books?

     

  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904


    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    What MMO has in your opinion the most immersive mellee combat system? and please can you explain why ?

    I kinda challenge this premise...

    Immersion is subjective. I could immerse myself in melee combat with a duel of forks.

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  • YoungCaesarYoungCaesar Member UncommonPosts: 326
    Mortal online has the best melee system in any mmo, but its a first person slasher with directional blocking, not tab target nor action combat, so it might not suit the traditional mmorpger crowd.
  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,628

    I know ima get flamed for this but I felt swtor's melee combat was really well done.

    why? it had weight. and your character blocked incoming attacks with their lightsaber. plus the sound effects matched really well with the animations. everything looked like it made an impact. knockback felt solid and it was satisfying to knock people around.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by Foomerang

    I know ima get flamed for this but I felt swtor's melee combat was really well done.

    why? it had weight. and your character blocked incoming attacks with their lightsaber. plus the sound effects matched really well with the animations. everything looked like it made an impact. knockback felt solid and it was satisfying to knock people around.

    Swtor certainly had great connecting mellee combat on the jedi/sith ....  However the mellee moves on the scoundrell and agent felt out of place...  But the lightsaber combat certainly felt immersive to me...

    and WoWs mellee combat really felt good on the warrior, but other classes are way off, like the mellee shaman that does not really connect..

    And then there is lotro, where i can only play the warden class, as it had great mellee combat feeling, very direct and immersive.. However all the other classes felt off to me..

     

    my personall favourite right now is still GW2, it pulls you in when in mellee combat, but not with all weapons abillities.  Mellee on certain classes/weapon combos feels way off, in general the more spellcasting is involved in the builds, the further they are off..  I love rogue and warrior most....  I really like how they combine the combat with a great tactical and strategical layer

     

     

     

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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    True SWTOR loved master stroke on my Jedi. I liked Age of Conan too for melee.

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    If we are talking mmo I'll go with AOC but single player games then it has to be Dark Souls for me.




  • Nemesis7884Nemesis7884 Member UncommonPosts: 1,023

    depends on what immersive means for you

    view?

    realistic damage / energy expenditure?

    realistic skills?

    impactful?

    active?

     

    for me personaly, variety, feeling for impact and good looking animations is for me important so i'd say guild wars 2... m&b isnt really an mmo in the traditional sense - the combat is really fun tought despite its limitations due to the low budget....

    i know a lot of hc mmo players like aoc combat...it wasnt that great for me altough i really liked other aspects of the game...

  • mikunimanmikuniman Member UncommonPosts: 375
    Vindictus hands down, has to be action combat mmo's, tab target mmo's blocking and defense left up to math stats in your gear is just not immersive to me.
  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    Originally posted by Nitth

    I kinda challenge this premise...

    Immersion is subjective. I could immerse myself in melee combat with a duel of forks.

    Fun is subjective too, but if you word it like the OP ("in your opinion") then you can still ask people what game they consider most fun.

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  • Tissue4UrIssueTissue4UrIssue Member CommonPosts: 9

    Age Of Conan

    Hands down, one of the few with multi directional melee combat & combo system in an mmo, all others either fall short into 1 button smashers or the tried & tested tab targeting.

    Even Wildstar with its much hyped "leet" skills required is nothing more than a 1 button bore, the telegraph system highlighting when/where you should be eliminates any real skill required.

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843

    ESO - Targeting plus control over the power of your basic attacks all synced to the animations. This leads to every swing feeling different.

    Age of Wushu - Feels just like a kung fu movie.

  • AnirethAnireth Member UncommonPosts: 940

    Vindictus. Leaves everything else behind in dust with regards to combat.

    Age of Conan is kinda nice, too, but far from it. TERA is really bad compared to it.

    Blade & Soul if you want kung-fu fighting, but it can't hold a candle to Vindictus.

    Non-MMOs, maybe try Blade Symphony?

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    Originally posted by NightHaveN
    But if remember correctly GW2 is the only title that lacks a speedy charge like skill But I may be wrong.

    GW2 definitely has charge.

    Ya, I'm not really sure if he's talking about a single charge and stun or a leap/closer skill. GW2 Leap.

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