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Guild Wars 2: Public Humiliation for a Notorious Cheater

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

The ArenaNet security team has a message for Guild Wars 2 cheaters: DON'T. If it's not enough for some, there is this that was recorded by Chris Cleary where a rather notorious cheater was stripped, thrown to the ground from a precipitous height, had all characters deleted and the account banned.

Let's hope the lesson sticks the next time someone is tempted to cheat.








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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803

    I would prefer statistics of banned accounts.

    I remember times when I would report 20 bots a day and I know some still "play" with their status set to afk and that in the zone where I caught them botting.

    Rather than pushing one guy over the cliff it would be better to show us how many botters and cheaters bite the dust each month.

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  • stevebombsquadstevebombsquad Member UncommonPosts: 884
    Showing suicide as a punishment? Really? That is the message they want to project?

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  • brihtwulfbrihtwulf Member UncommonPosts: 975

    @stevebombsquad - Come on man.  That's not what's going on here.  I don't know why you have a hot button for this issue, but that is a real stretch.  They just killed the character as part of an account ban.  This has nothing to do with suicide in a social context.  Why don't nudists start complaining too?  My my, America.  Your PC meter is going to bury the needle...

     

    Anyway, I think they should take more proactive measures in this game (and others) to remove cheaters, bots, expoiters.  I know it takes time and resources, but with the amount of money many of these games rake in, you'd think they could handle hiring a few full-time people to keep an active eye on these situations and penalize cheaters.  And it can REALLY ruin the experience for other people, like in Archeage.

  • meonthissitemeonthissite Member UncommonPosts: 917

    This to me shows just how amateurish these jokers are. Really it does. This isn't going to stop anyone from cheating. Further people wouldn't be prompted to cheat in this messed up excuse for an mmo had they actually had a viable and not broken system of loot acquisition. 

    I'm absolutely no fan of cheaters I hate them as much as the next guy but they bring this kind of thing on themselves when they have no idea what they are doing. Loot nerfs to an already messed up system, using things like DR which has yet to get rid of a single bot to this day?! Seriously and now posting this as if it means anything. Yeah. Talk about childish.

  • BitripBitrip Member UncommonPosts: 279
    Originally posted by meonthissite

    This to me shows just how amateurish these jokers are. Really it does. This isn't going to stop anyone from cheating. Further people wouldn't be prompted to cheat in this messed up excuse for an mmo had they actually had a viable and not broken system of loot acquisition. 

    I'm absolutely no fan of cheaters I hate them as much as the next guy but they bring this kind of thing on themselves when they have no idea what they are doing. Loot nerfs to an already messed up system, using things like DR which has yet to get rid of a single bot to this day?! Seriously and now posting this as if it means anything. Yeah. Talk about childish.

    It would've been much better if they left his body there permanently.

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  • CaptainSoapCaptainSoap Member UncommonPosts: 142
    If this video really was posted by staff of GW2, it's not how I'd expect a professional game development company to act. To me this is childish and immature. A real professional business would have handled it behind closed doors, making sure to disable the account and keeping the player from ever entering the game again. But making a video of them making his character kill himself? Completely meaningless. I have no respect at all for ArenaNet. 
  • Nightbringe1Nightbringe1 Member UncommonPosts: 1,335
    Now, if only they could generate a unique identifier for his computer, and perma-ban the hardware ....

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  • GaeluianGaeluian Member UncommonPosts: 114
    Wow, kinda sad that a staff member from MMORPG.com posted a 'name-shaming'  vid. Thought this was a ban-able offense.
  • hoho24xhoho24x Member UncommonPosts: 6
    Really Everyone who posted negatively on this post are Guild wars 2 haters or never played the game. The guy cheated why does he deserve anyless than he go. They posted this video for people who would tempt to do the same, it was a joke. Its not like posted his real name or his social security number on the screen all of  y'all especially @Soappy get your life
  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Member EpicPosts: 1,960

    Would've been better if they'd stripped his body down to nothing but a censor bar, then hung him from a gibbet in front of the inn or something. With his nameplate visible for all to see. 

    Or maybe placed his head on a pike outside the gates. I've always been a fan of that, as it gets the message across without any ambiguity whatsoever. Of course, placing his actual head on a pike outside Arenanet HQ would be far better, but the authorities would probably have something to say about that. 

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Good riddance. ANET as well as other companies should get generally harder against cheaters, people like this can destroy an entire game.

    And shaming is not a bad idea. Whatever that works.

    Now if they could be harder about not rewarding people who contribute close to nothing in Silver marches as well I would be a happy camper. Far too often do the main event fail because some people just tag a mob or 2 and then goes AFK or something.

    GW2 do have a good system already for seeing who actually did their part on who doesnät (could still need some tweaking though) but they are far too happy with awarding people who does close to nothing far too much for their work. Some balancing there would do wonders for the game.

  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    I don't like public humiliations by devs.  It's amateurish and reflects poorly on their ethics.  Could you ever see a fortune 500 CEO doing this?  This is why gamers will never be taken serious, and it will always be viewed for "children".  I couldn't imagine a Hollywood exec doing something like this.  I know a lot of people think this is "cool", and some sort of justice, but it's not.  Keep it classy Anet.
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    My respect fro Arenanet went up several notches. Fortune 500 CEO those bastards who drain companies when they leave. Making golden parachutes agreements yes those are good role models.
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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    +1 :) hey did a  similar thing in GW1 where grenth appeared in killed and the person about to be banned - awsomesauce :)

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  • curiousbugcuriousbug Member UncommonPosts: 51

    "sigh" We need more  f2pish stupidity,yay!

    Yeah,awesome-we banned 1 guy and humiliated his character :

    I see like 10 bots/cheaters every day,they teleport around and gather mats

    Is this ruin experience?Maybe anet should play their own game as ordinary player for (atleast) year to feel how game is awesome now,and why there are bots and cheaters   -.-

     

  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    Originally posted by curiousbug

    "sigh" We need more  f2pish stupidity,yay!

    Yeah,awesome-we banned 1 guy and humiliated his character :

    I see like 10 bots/cheaters every day,they teleport around and gather mats

    Is this ruin experience?Maybe anet should play their own game as ordinary player for (atleast) year to feel how game is awesome now,and why there are bots and cheaters   -.-

     

    your a fun little munchkin arent you.

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  • stevebombsquadstevebombsquad Member UncommonPosts: 884
    Originally posted by brihtwulf

    @stevebombsquad - Come on man.  That's not what's going on here.  I don't know why you have a hot button for this issue, but that is a real stretch.  They just killed the character as part of an account ban.  This has nothing to do with suicide in a social context.  Why don't nudists start complaining too?  My my, America.  Your PC meter is going to bury the needle...

     

    Anyway, I think they should take more proactive measures in this game (and others) to remove cheaters, bots, expoiters.  I know it takes time and resources, but with the amount of money many of these games rake in, you'd think they could handle hiring a few full-time people to keep an active eye on these situations and penalize cheaters.  And it can REALLY ruin the experience for other people, like in Archeage.

    You are going to tell me that this is professional? Whatever.....

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722

    Gotta love some of the posters calling ANET immature and childish for bringing public shame to cheaters before banning them.

    I only get one thing from these posters, you are hurt because you are at risk of getting the shame hammer too for cheating. And if you dont play the game, carry on, your hate comment means nothing.

     

    At least ANET fights cheaters. They should also show their name and account during the banning process. That would be so enjoyable.

    Cheaters deserve harsh punishments, and making them public is just a nice bonus.





  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    It's also unethical, since he disclosed private account information, such as his usernames.  It's also irrelevant if he was deleting it anyway.  If they aren't going to abide by their own rules, they shouldn't apply them to everyone else.  This is what separates a professional company from an amateur one.
  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    Originally posted by rojoArcueid

    Gotta love some of the posters calling ANET immature and childish for bringing public shame to cheaters before banning them.

    I only get one thing from these posters, you are hurt because you are at risk of getting the shame hammer too for cheating. And if you dont play the game, carry on, your hate comment means nothing.

     

    At least ANET fights cheaters. They should also show their name and account during the banning process. That would be so enjoyable.

    Cheaters deserve harsh punishments, and making them public is just a nice bonus.

    Your reply is irrational and immature.  Because others view this as unprofessional, they must be cheaters?  No, some of us like confidentiality to be preserved, and when devs break that trust, you have to start worrying about your account.  Not all devs are saints, and stunts like this make it harder to trust them.

  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    Originally posted by Bitrip
    Originally posted by meonthissite

    This to me shows just how amateurish these jokers are. Really it does. This isn't going to stop anyone from cheating. Further people wouldn't be prompted to cheat in this messed up excuse for an mmo had they actually had a viable and not broken system of loot acquisition. 

    I'm absolutely no fan of cheaters I hate them as much as the next guy but they bring this kind of thing on themselves when they have no idea what they are doing. Loot nerfs to an already messed up system, using things like DR which has yet to get rid of a single bot to this day?! Seriously and now posting this as if it means anything. Yeah. Talk about childish.

    It would've been much better if they left his body there permanently.

    That's a great  idea, like the bodies you saw in WoW.  Make them spammers and cheaters with a cheater title.  Or else just flag their account for open PvP.

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  • silvermembersilvermember Member UncommonPosts: 526
    Originally posted by observer
    It's also unethical, since he disclosed private account information, such as his usernames.  It's also irrelevant if he was deleting it anyway.  If they aren't going to abide by their own rules, they shouldn't apply them to everyone else.  This is what separates a professional company from an amateur one.

    There is nothing unethical about this, stop devaluing that word. 

    Name shamming is fond upon because usually player can misinterpret the actions going on the screen aka falsely accusing another player of something he or she did not do. However, in this case it is as clear as it is and it was later confirmed by the dev hence why he decided to publically shame the cheater since the cheater was been ruining the game for hundreds of players for weeks now. Since the  person is getting perminately banned it doesn't matter if he is shammed or not. 

    In anycase, like everything in life some like you will not be happy and others will be happy about the public shamming. However, just because you don't like it doesn't make it unethical. Stop trying to use hyperbole.

    Also if the news can do it in real life what makes you think a video game is different?

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Originally posted by remyburke
    Originally posted by stevebombsquad
    Showing suicide as a punishment? Really? That is the message they want to project?

    Sure. Cheaters should just do everyone a favor and kill themselves. I approve this message.

    Agreed. I will give them the gun and bullet.

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  • MuntzMuntz Member UncommonPosts: 332

    Thought this one was kind of lame, Grenth in GW was better - 

     

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    Originally posted by observer
    Originally posted by rojoArcueid

    Gotta love some of the posters calling ANET immature and childish for bringing public shame to cheaters before banning them.

    I only get one thing from these posters, you are hurt because you are at risk of getting the shame hammer too for cheating. And if you dont play the game, carry on, your hate comment means nothing.

     

    At least ANET fights cheaters. They should also show their name and account during the banning process. That would be so enjoyable.

    Cheaters deserve harsh punishments, and making them public is just a nice bonus.

    Your reply is irrational and immature.  Because others view this as unprofessional, they must be cheaters?  No, some of us like confidentiality to be preserved, and when devs break that trust, you have to start worrying about your account.  Not all devs are saints, and stunts like this make it harder to trust them.

    Please explain how being harsh to a cheater causes decent players to not trust a company? Stop defending wrong doings. They are not showing/banning players that play by the rules. What confidentiality? the cheaters confidentiality? so they get a new game and start doing the same thing again and again? show who they are so everyone avoid that person. Period. 

    This topic is not about games only, you should be punished everywhere you try to cheat and be known publicly as a cheater. A game, a job, anywhere. I do not believe in keeping bad apples confidential, that sounds more like being an accomplice and in my eyes that is more unprofessional. Kudos to every company who puts bad apples to shame. Are you scared that they will do it to you? dont cheat. Period. 





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