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HeN138HeN138 Member CommonPosts: 8

Hey All,

           Newcomer here wondering on this built to replace new parts from my old 2010 PC. With college ending soon its a Perfect time to play new games release and hoping to upgrade my PC that'll last me 5 years like my old 2010 PC.

 PCU:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

MotherBoard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877

GPU:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721108

my old parts are this:

Power : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018

Cooler : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227478

Case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130550

CPU:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103692

PS: Yes, im able to play modern games like wildstar, FFXIV, TSW, KF2, Rage, GW2 on high settings( with shadow + AA turn off).

Comments

  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237

    You should be replacing the Power Supply as well. A 5 year old PSU going into a brand new system is a bad idea. The old PSU is not a great one to start with, and has not gotten better after 5 years of use.

    With the money you are spending you should be looking at an Intel build instead of AMD. The hardware you listed comes out to $780. My advice would be to buy an I5 and build around that. Go with a bit cheaper motherboard unless you just plan on extreme overclocking or SLI rig.

    An expensive motherboard with tons of features is worth it if you will use those features. Paying for stuff you will never use is a waste of money that can be used elsewhere. Like a new PSU.

    Take a look at something like this'

    GPU ~http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899

    PSU~http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207030

    MOBO~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979

    CPU~http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117372

    SSD~http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721108

    $853 before rebates. $788 after.

    If you actually do the rebates you can get that build for the same price. Which includes a new PSU, & better CPU. Plus the entire system is more energy efficient. No need for a big PSU when a quality 550w will run it perfectly with an intel chip and a 970. Your whole system will probably use less than 400w under load.

     

    Either way I would budget in for a new quality power supply, no matter which direction you choose to go.

  • HeN138HeN138 Member CommonPosts: 8

     ah, thank you for the helpful info about new cards.

    i haven't been paying much attention as of lately but would stick with AMD CPU seen it last me 5 years without crashing so far.

    with that how is this one a much lower one then the above posted:

    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286&cm_re=AMD_FX-6300-_-19-113-286-_-Product

    Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-131-851

    and planing to go with this BadBoy Beast:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899

     

    BTW: is Corsair no longer a good brand? if so any brand for the power supply?

     

  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237
    Originally posted by HeN138

     ah, thank you for the helpful info about new cards.

    i haven't been paying much attention as of lately but would stick with AMD CPU seen it last me 5 years without crashing so far.

    with that how is this one a much lower one then the above posted:

    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286&cm_re=AMD_FX-6300-_-19-113-286-_-Product

    Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-131-851

    and planing to go with this BadBoy Beast:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899

     

    BTW: is Corsair no longer a good brand? if so any brand for the power supply?

     

    I once knew a guy who drove a Yugo for 5 years and never had a problem. But you can bet his next car was something nicer.

     

    Nothing wrong with AMD at all. I used them for years and still have one I built over 5 years ago running without issue. But once you reach a certain threshold of budget an Intel is just a better CPU.. And todays intel CPUs use much less power for better performance.

    Up to you as its your money. My advice is dont let brand loyalty sway you one way or another. If you can afford something nicer that the other guy makes then get it.

  • slimjim22slimjim22 Member UncommonPosts: 41

    an i3-4150 is better then fx-6300 for gaming, toms hardware has alot of benchmarks about that, i heard that amd is on a dead socket, intel 1150 sock has haswell and broadwell when that comes out. that fx cpu will play mosy games just not sure how high of settings and that  cpu wont last 5yrs. If your gonna stick with amd i would suggest ~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285~ or higher. but all benchmarks shows intel being better for gaming, with a better single core performance (sorry my spelling sucks) and it uses less power means less heat less wear and tear = last longer. i hope that helps :)

    oh and that  fx-6300 probably will bottleneck that awesome gpu u picked out :)

    p.s. i was using untill recently an i3-4150 and a gtx 750 ti, played games like dragon age 3, shadows of mordor, BF4 high to ultra no issues 1080p

     

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013

    i would go intel as well, heres one of my cheaper builds.

    CPU: $189.00    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302

    MoBo: $74.99    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512

    GPU:  $229.00   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487133&cm_re=gtx_960_4gb-_-14-487-133-_-Product

    PSU: $44.99       http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G28N4475&cm_re=antec_450-_-17-371-045-_-Product

    RAM: $54    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820101004

    Grand Total  $595.95

    Eek, no.  The point of going with an Intel CPU rather than AMD is that you can get something faster.  But if you pick a low clocked version, you get something that isn't very much faster.  But you still pay a lot more for something that isn't very much faster.  That's a bad idea.  Either pay what it costs to get a Core i5-4690 (or better) or save money by going AMD.

    That's way too much to pay for a GTX 960.  You can get a GTX 960 for $40 cheaper.  If it's the 4 GB of video memory that you're looking for, you can get the same 4 GB on a massively faster Radeon R9 290 for nearly the same price--and cheaper after rebate, even:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202143

    The power supply is rather inappropriate to a higher performance gaming rig.  You could justify that for a low power system on a severe budget, but it's not the sort of thing that you want to power a discrete video card.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Originally posted by HeN138

    Hey All,

               Newcomer here wondering on this built to replace new parts from my old 2010 PC. With college ending soon its a Perfect time to play new games release and hoping to upgrade my PC that'll last me 5 years like my old 2010 PC.

     PCU:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

    MotherBoard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877

    GPU:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899

    SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721108

    my old parts are this:

    Power : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018

    Cooler : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017

    Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227478

    Case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216

    GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130550

    CPU:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103692

    PS: Yes, im able to play modern games like wildstar, FFXIV, TSW, KF2, Rage, GW2 on high settings( with shadow + AA turn off).

    I don't see much point in upgrading from your current Phenom II X4 to another AMD processor, unless you know of very specific workloads that are very important to you that need more cores.  There are some people in that boat, but it's not something you do for gaming purposes.  Replacing the CPU and motherboard for a 20% performance improvement doesn't make much sense.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013

    an i3-4150 is better then fx-6300 for gaming, toms hardware has alot of benchmarks about that, i heard that amd is on a dead socket, intel 1150 sock has haswell and broadwell when that comes out. that fx cpu will play mosy games just not sure how high of settings and that  cpu wont last 5yrs. If your gonna stick with amd i would suggest ~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285~ or higher. but all benchmarks shows intel being better for gaming, with a better single core performance (sorry my spelling sucks) and it uses less power means less heat less wear and tear = last longer. i hope that helps :)

    oh and that  fx-6300 probably will bottleneck that awesome gpu u picked out :)

    p.s. i was using untill recently an i3-4150 and a gtx 750 ti, played games like dragon age 3, shadows of mordor, BF4 high to ultra no issues 1080p

    It's not 2009 anymore.  There's no sense in getting a dual core CPU for gaming these days unless you're on the sort of extremely severe budget that completely rules out Intel anything.  While I have no doubt that a lot of games run just fine today on a Core i3-4150, they also run just fine on an FX-6300 that you can get for cheaper.  And, for that matter, on the Phenom II X4 that the original poster already has.

  • slimjim22slimjim22 Member UncommonPosts: 41
    i never said get an i3-4150 (i did said the i3 beats the fx-6300 for gaming)  i said get an i5-4460 or greater but w/e. that psu has 450 wat cont, 36 amp more then plenty to run a single intel/gpu setup but w/e i was just answering his question
  • HeN138HeN138 Member CommonPosts: 8

    thank you all for the reply.

    i decide to spend a little more for GTX 970 with I5 chip seens thats the way to go.

    the last built i decide to buy :

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117372

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130770

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207030

     

    Not really a AMD fanboy for the record, just that AMD CPU i bought had last me for 5 years so  probably though of the company

    makes good product but i quess it's time to upgrade and try something new.

    thank you all for the feedback thought.

  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013
    i never said get an i3-4150 (i did said the i3 beats the fx-6300 for gaming)  i said get an i5-4460 or greater but w/e. that psu has 450 wat cont, 36 amp more then plenty to run a single intel/gpu setup but w/e i was just answering his question

    30 amps, that antec has 30 maps for cpu+gpu+fans+sound card,etc, ...

  • slimjim22slimjim22 Member UncommonPosts: 41

    its 36 amps http://elitegamingcomputers.com/the-best-gaming-power-supplies/

    scroll down towards bottom 2 12v 18 = 36 amp

  • HrimnirHrimnir Member RarePosts: 2,415
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013
    i never said get an i3-4150 (i did said the i3 beats the fx-6300 for gaming)  i said get an i5-4460 or greater but w/e. that psu has 450 wat cont, 36 amp more then plenty to run a single intel/gpu setup but w/e i was just answering his question

    30 amps, that antec has 30 maps for cpu+gpu+fans+sound card,etc, ...

    He'll be fine. I've been running a heavily OC'd 2600k, 4 hdds, untold fans, and 2x 760's on a 650w for ~3 years without any issues.

    As long as its a decent quality PSU a 450w is gonna be fine for a maxwell card.  They're super power efficient.

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

    - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013

    its 36 amps http://elitegamingcomputers.com/the-best-gaming-power-supplies/

    scroll down towards bottom 2 12v 18 = 36 amp

    Nope both you and that website are completely wrong. Don't take my word on it check the official website and use basic math and middle school electrical engineering basics :

    http://store.antec.com/vpseries/vp450.html#accordion1

    Under technical specs-additional information-output it nicely shows that the combined value of the 2x12v rails is 360w. 360w divided by the 12v is 30A. Each "rail" can individually do 18A but only if the other one is doing 12A, if u go over 30A on them combined the power supply won't be able to do it.

    It's not even an actual 2 rail setup on this particular PSU if i remember correctly, it's just a single rail and it's not rated over 30A(360w).

  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by Hrimnir
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013
    i never said get an i3-4150 (i did said the i3 beats the fx-6300 for gaming)  i said get an i5-4460 or greater but w/e. that psu has 450 wat cont, 36 amp more then plenty to run a single intel/gpu setup but w/e i was just answering his question

    30 amps, that antec has 30 maps for cpu+gpu+fans+sound card,etc, ...

    He'll be fine. I've been running a heavily OC'd 2600k, 4 hdds, untold fans, and 2x 760's on a 650w for ~3 years without any issues.

    As long as its a decent quality PSU a 450w is gonna be fine for a maxwell card.  They're super power efficient.

    You're comparing apples and oranges, it very much matters what PSU u have exactly, and just saying 650w is completely useless and an irrelevant information on its own. Is it 650w for the whole PSU ?, 650w for the 12v rails ?, how are individual rails rated, what's the max wattage that the 12v can pull out before starting to crash and burn ? These are the questions that matter. And even this is only the basics(good enough most of the time), without going into the actual build quality and components inside for which you have johhnyguru and similar websites.

    Decent companies that make good and great PSUs also have product lines of not so great PSUs, so the need to be extra careful is all so more important nowdays.

     

    I also never said that a decent 450w or this one with 450w(30A) is not enough to run a basic i5+960(970), specifically a i5-4690k+970 will use 233W(20A) going by their TDP values, and in everyday gaming that's probably gonna be more like 200w(~16A). Which is perfectly fine for a low quality PSU as you've got a least 1/3 of the rated amperage headroom there. I'd trust a higher quality unit to go much closer to max rated values. 

     

    But switch out for an AMD gpu, overclock that i5, and you're just asking for trouble on that Antec VP, and you're in for a barbecue 

  • slimjim22slimjim22 Member UncommonPosts: 41

     i own 2 of them . not trying to get in a fight. i have an i5 and a gtx 960 0C no issues 

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Power-Supply-Review/1487/11 

    shows that it does have 2 rails among other sites . ~tho i wouldnt oc the cpu with that`` like i said in my 1st post it was a cheaper build that would run (most) intel/single nvidia gpu no issues 

  • HrimnirHrimnir Member RarePosts: 2,415
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by Hrimnir
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013
    i never said get an i3-4150 (i did said the i3 beats the fx-6300 for gaming)  i said get an i5-4460 or greater but w/e. that psu has 450 wat cont, 36 amp more then plenty to run a single intel/gpu setup but w/e i was just answering his question

    30 amps, that antec has 30 maps for cpu+gpu+fans+sound card,etc, ...

    He'll be fine. I've been running a heavily OC'd 2600k, 4 hdds, untold fans, and 2x 760's on a 650w for ~3 years without any issues.

    As long as its a decent quality PSU a 450w is gonna be fine for a maxwell card.  They're super power efficient.

    You're comparing apples and oranges, it very much matters what PSU u have exactly, and just saying 650w is completely useless and an irrelevant information on its own. Is it 650w for the whole PSU ?, 650w for the 12v rails ?, how are individual rails rated, what's the max wattage that the 12v can pull out before starting to crash and burn ? These are the questions that matter. And even this is only the basics(good enough most of the time), without going into the actual build quality and components inside for which you have johhnyguru and similar websites.

    Decent companies that make good and great PSUs also have product lines of not so great PSUs, so the need to be extra careful is all so more important nowdays.

     

    I also never said that a decent 450w or this one with 450w(30A) is not enough to run a basic i5+960(970), specifically a i5-4690k+970 will use 233W(20A) going by their TDP values, and in everyday gaming that's probably gonna be more like 200w(~16A). Which is perfectly fine for a low quality PSU as you've got a least 1/3 of the rated amperage headroom there. I'd trust a higher quality unit to go much closer to max rated values. 

     

    But switch out for an AMD gpu, overclock that i5, and you're just asking for trouble on that Antec VP, and you're in for a barbecue 

    All fair points.  Wasnt looking to start an argument.  Was just saying even a garbage 450w shouldnt have issues running a stock i5 and a 960 unless he has some ridiculous water cooling setup or some other weird power draw.

    As far as mine, its a Corsair AX650

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

    - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013

     i own 2 of them . not trying to get in a fight. i have an i5 and a gtx 960 0C no issues 

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Power-Supply-Review/1487/11 

    shows that it does have 2 rails among other sites . ~tho i wouldnt oc the cpu with that`` like i said in my 1st post it was a cheaper build that would run (most) intel/single nvidia gpu no issues 

    960 is the key word here, it power usage is peanuts

  • slimjim22slimjim22 Member UncommonPosts: 41
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013

     i own 2 of them . not trying to get in a fight. i have an i5 and a gtx 960 0C no issues 

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Power-Supply-Review/1487/11 

    shows that it does have 2 rails among other sites . ~tho i wouldnt oc the cpu with that`` like i said in my 1st post it was a cheaper build that would run (most) intel/single nvidia gpu no issues 

    960 is the key word here, it power usage is peanuts

    well duh that was my whole point on my 1st post, i never said amd or any thing like that. and that psu has alot of good reviews so sorry if i don't listen to a stranger who likes starting arguments to make himself feel better. really learn how to read.

  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by slimjim22
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013

     i own 2 of them . not trying to get in a fight. i have an i5 and a gtx 960 0C no issues 

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Power-Supply-Review/1487/11 

    shows that it does have 2 rails among other sites . ~tho i wouldnt oc the cpu with that`` like i said in my 1st post it was a cheaper build that would run (most) intel/single nvidia gpu no issues 

    960 is the key word here, it power usage is peanuts

    well duh that was my whole point on my 1st post, i never said amd or any thing like that. and that psu has alot of good reviews so sorry if i don't listen to a stranger who likes starting arguments to make himself feel better. really learn how to read.

    I'm not the one starting, or instigating arguments, i Simply wrote that you listed wrong specs on the rated amperage which while seeming like something minor and irrelevant, are so close that the OP needs to know of the small difference, because depending on the exact components he goes for and how much he OCs the cpu, problems will arise, i've seen it happen dozens of times, and that's why i kept pointing out that a happy-go attitude with that power supply will translate into damaged components.

    You have the audacity to write all those insults in 2nd part of your post, but you still haven't admitted you were wrong about the rated amperage, you've just ignored it walked over it, and started throwing around accusations, to avoid answering on it.

     

    "30 amps, that antec has 30 maps for cpu+gpu+fans+sound card,etc, ..."

    is this the argument ? to bolster my ego ?, stating a fact, and linking to the official website in the next post, while pointing out an extremely important oversight of the antec psu ?

  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by Hrimnir

    All fair points.  Wasnt looking to start an argument.  Was just saying even a garbage 450w shouldnt have issues running a stock i5 and a 960 unless he has some ridiculous water cooling setup or some other weird power draw.

    As far as mine, its a Corsair AX650

    I know you weren't looking to start an argument, there isn't even any argument :)

    The reason i'm so persistent is that even a switch to 970 from 960 is dangerous on that power supply. I'm not thinking what's gonna happen with a person's computer when it starts up, or even in the first 2-3 years of usage, i'm thinking what's gonna happen after those 2-3 years, i'm thinking i have to make it clear that changing a GPU down the road, or even overclocking that i5 to 4.1/4.2 Ghz is dangerous. It's these little things paired with a few years of usage that make the power supplies go bust, and low quality units don't just die on their own, they pull other pc components with them.

    And that is the main reason why Quizzical is so aggressive with PSUs, he has your best interest in mind, and is thinking years ahead, to prevent a partial or a complete loss of computer parts, due to not spending $40 more on a better unit, $40 is a small price to pay for hundreds of lost dollars.

     

    As for your power supply, it single-handedly justified my whole post xD, that corsair model is a seasonic unit of the highest quality which could handle not 650w on the 12v rail, it would be able to handle 700, even 750w on the 12v rail for a limited amount of time, without any significant long term damage.

    If you intentionally destroyed that PSU, or abused it for 10 years straight, even when it would die, it probably wouldn't even take a single other component down with itself :)

     

  • slimjim22slimjim22 Member UncommonPosts: 41
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by slimjim22
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by shadesofgrey2013

     i own 2 of them . not trying to get in a fight. i have an i5 and a gtx 960 0C no issues 

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Power-Supply-Review/1487/11 

    shows that it does have 2 rails among other sites . ~tho i wouldnt oc the cpu with that`` like i said in my 1st post it was a cheaper build that would run (most) intel/single nvidia gpu no issues 

    960 is the key word here, it power usage is peanuts

    well duh that was my whole point on my 1st post, i never said amd or any thing like that. and that psu has alot of good reviews so sorry if i don't listen to a stranger who likes starting arguments to make himself feel better. really learn how to read.

    I'm not the one starting, or instigating arguments, i Simply wrote that you listed wrong specs on the rated amperage which while seeming like something minor and irrelevant, are so close that the OP needs to know of the small difference, because depending on the exact components he goes for and how much he OCs the cpu, problems will arise, i've seen it happen dozens of times, and that's why i kept pointing out that a happy-go attitude with that power supply will translate into damaged components.

    You have the audacity to write all those insults in 2nd part of your post, but you still haven't admitted you were wrong about the rated amperage, you've just ignored it walked over it, and started throwing around accusations, to avoid answering on it.

     

    "30 amps, that antec has 30 maps for cpu+gpu+fans+sound card,etc, ..."

    is this the argument ? to bolster my ego ?, stating a fact, and linking to the official website in the next post, while pointing out an extremely important oversight of the antec psu ?

    lol what insults? i spoke truth, all the parts i listed where for that psu, i never said any upgrades or what not, i own 2 of em, they can crank out over 500wats 9i wouldnt push it, i keep it simple with that psu 3 case fans, 1 gpu 2 hdds i5. no i didnt ignoret wether i was/wasnt wrong with amp like i said (some sites says 36 ) you say 30, fine that was never my issue. did you ever read the reviews on the psu??? this site took it apart and looked inside 

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Power-Supply-Review/1487/11 .  go back to my first post, look at the parts i listed, and tell me that psu isnt fine for it. thats my point man.  and i never ment any thing i said as an insult. so if you felt i insulted you i apologize.  

  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Originally posted by 13lake
    Originally posted by slimjim22

    sorry if i don't listen to a stranger who likes starting arguments to make himself feel better. really learn how to read.

    I'm not gonna write anything else of a non-technical nature in this post after this :

    if this isn't an insult idk what is, everyone is a stranger on the internet, unless they know each others personally, saying:  " starting arguments to make himself feel better " is a completely baseless statement, and serves no purpose whatsover, because to prove or disprove it you, me or anyone else would have to go through my post history and dissect it objectively, and both this and the last sentence are ad hominem.

    Posting parts of someone else's or my post history in this post after the ongoing discussion is simply de-railing and would just taint the whole post and the point of it, and on top of that the last sentence is a direct provocation (To clarify, the intrinsic meaning of what u wrote is in small way an insult and not enough on its own to positively ascertain it, but the way the sentences are formulated is what constitutes them and gives them away as provocations)

     

    And lastly i would like to add that it's not me who says it's 30A, it's Joule's Law which says it and the official antec website that says it, and every picture on the internet of the side of that PSU, where it clearly is written 360W as max wattage. I am using mathematics and logic via Joule's Law to convert the wattage into amperage, which is infallible.

    The 12v rail represents voltage and is always of the value of 12(within tolerance), and a single volt is always connected to the dissipation of a single watt of power, and to a single ampere of electrical current dissipating it (It is always without fault 1V=1W/1A) or else the law of the Conservation of Energy in the universe would be wrong.

  • slimjim22slimjim22 Member UncommonPosts: 41
    and yet you never answered my question. the amps arnt my point but whatever. have a nice day :)
  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719

    On second thought, disregard the quotes, they're a loophole to what i promised in my previous post. All i wanted to say and the answer to the post above this one are already in the topic.

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