-Other than vr content being other faction content and too much exp to farm.
-Bugged maing quest last boss fight. Looked more like them harassing me than it being a random bug which they did not fix for a month while my subscription was on going. Maybe I could have asked for refund at that time? I would rather not have to ask for a refund and have my time wasted on bugs or other problems.
-too much sidequesting and requiring too much exp per level to follow main story. ( you could say its a typical mmo or even single player experience. but side questing was nothing really special so its not a great experience lvling which is mostly solo, or people used to farm dungeons with bots or not bots for gear since it was pretty worht their while instead of making epic quests per area for epic loot they just made farmable dungeons which to be fair would be better if it was not packed with other people... assuming the boss fights were 'fun'.
-buggy combat when it was new. ruined the balance at an obvious level.
-Single player MMO, with very little group content, end game, mini games, or mmo content in general.
They basically blew their development on the journey, so that was what ESo was, which was fine for a month subscription, but i got robbed of completing ESO due to being stuck in the room after defeating the final boss. So as a single player it failed in that regard and being too long winded.
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It can been seen with faction pride, which is 0. None care about factions, no one cares about scrolls, no one cares about keeps. It has been bioled down to the fastest way that day to get AP.
No wonder you don't like it if that's the way the people you play with play it,
The two PVP guilds I run with play it right. We have a lot of success and have a lot of fun doing it... APs just come as they come.
But I do know the types you're talking about. They're the min/maxers of the PVP world that just care about large numbers. A pathetic bunch really who just fuck it up for themselves... probably the same crowd who won't set foot in Cyrodiil in the first place unless they're VR14 with best in slot gear.
But it ain't the game's fault if my (very active) guild does it regularly and can have fun with it. People can fuck anything up for themselves with a shitty attitude.
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TESO has a point. it is a game afterall. And one that i recently learned to enjoy a lot again. Iam Cooping the story with a buddy of mine and we are having a lot of fun. Like 3-4 Hours a day after work. We listen to all those dialogs, read the books we have to fetch for quests and ride our horses around the land, enjoying landmarks and sometimes even roleplay.
We are not playing this game like a grind-themepark mmo. thats the key.
i had loads of fun in pvp, too. Been playing a nightblade archer. Now that i rerolled with my buddy to play coop, im playing a sorc archer. Its pretty fun and also damn strong.
We are always looking for "innovation" and "new things" but once they are in your reach, people are just looking for those good ol' things. (oh holy trinity - which actually exists, but with a little twist)
Age of Conan was a good game. Up until lvl 35~ i think, when you start grinding that solo instance. Might be fixed by now, but that went on my nerves. Also it is a lot more expensive if you want to play it in later-game. buy all the DLCs o/
GW2 never interested me. The story was horrible, PvE was absolute BS and the pvp was only enjoyable, once you reached the higher levels. Sooo interesting...
So what really is the point of ESO now? To have fun. Thats for sure. And iam having fun. With absolutely everything the game has to offer right now. I hadn't had that in an MMO in a long time.
However: its always personal preference. If you like 1-60 Grinds with endcontent 20 Man raids geartreadmil ESO is not for you.
If you like Sandbox running around killing players, building stuff(?) ESO is also not for you.
It can been seen with faction pride, which is 0. None care about factions, no one cares about scrolls, no one cares about keeps. It has been bioled down to the fastest way that day to get AP.
No wonder you don't like it if that's the way the people you play with play it,
The two PVP guilds I run with play it right. We have a lot of success and have a lot of fun doing it... APs just come as they come.
But I do know the types you're talking about. They're the min/maxers of the PVP world that just care about large numbers. A pathetic bunch really who just fuck it up for themselves... probably the same crowd who won't set foot in Cyrodiil in the first place unless they're VR14 with best in slot gear.
But it ain't the game's fault if my (very active) guild does it regularly and can have fun with it. People can fuck anything up for themselves with a shitty attitude.
I was just thinking it's taking longer than usual for the puppy to appear in this thread. Didn't the alarm go off in response to this thread, perhaps it needs resetting lol. And the OP is right about the game.
and then there is the guy with idiotic reply for the puppy
people like diffrent stuff try to get that into ur head and stop acting like a kid
Like rpg of old the point of teso is to explore, enjoy the lore and storylines and improve your character. Improving your character does not mean aiming for the top of a dps meter.
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I just logged in to TESO and came to a pretty hefty conclusion, the game has no point. How I came to this conclusion is in the pvp zone. It is flawed beyond anything I;ve ever played.
It has no depth, it is repetitive and stale. When guilds become more obsessed with AP farming over having meaningful pvp , it showcases the design flaw.
Classes, cookiecutter to be competitive, weak if you want to play as a you want.
Over all world for some reason feels very closed in now, I've lost that epic feeling of vastness somewhere.
Think it was 3 games I recently logged into that made me realize how shallow TESO is.
Age of Conan LOTRO GW2.
I just can't find any reason why it is on my SSD /uninstalled .
I have the same feelings about TESO,the PVE is boring and the RvR is the usual zerging maybe just a little better than GW2.
GW2 by the way gives me the same boredom,you login and the only goal is to farm to get gold and then buy gem to buy pretty skins of equipment.
AOC never played,LOTRO is still the best game I ever played,I just don't play because the expansion pack are too expensive and turbine don't even think about a little graphic and animation upgrade.
Maybe after the console release we'll see in TESO some more fun content,for now I'm not uninstalling it but I just give 2-3 months waiting for news about the new content.
I just logged in to TESO and came to a pretty hefty conclusion, the game has no point. How I came to this conclusion is in the pvp zone. It is flawed beyond anything I;ve ever played. It has no depth, it is repetitive and stale. When guilds become more obsessed with AP farming over having meaningful pvp , it showcases the design flaw. Classes, cookiecutter to be competitive, weak if you want to play as a you want.Over all world for some reason feels very closed in now, I've lost that epic feeling of vastness somewhere. Think it was 3 games I recently logged into that made me realize how shallow TESO is. Age of Conan LOTRO GW2. I just can't find any reason why it is on my SSD /uninstalled .
Maybe after the console release we'll see in TESO some more fun content,for now I'm not uninstalling it but I just give 2-3 months waiting for news about the new content.
I think you'll see the Imperial City a lot sooner than that... lots of rumors and hints that it's coming very soon.
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I think the point of TESO is the same as all the wow clones.
Do most of the content solo, all time same kind of quests but with different level and use other people for do dungeons. You dont need to talk a lot or socialice in games like TESO. Is just a move forward without using your brain.
In my opinion, you will enjoy much more TES than TESO. Single player games are much more challeging than this kind of games.
Originally posted by Thane well, you lost me when you said GW2 had the better pvp system ^^
Yep. Also listing two games more pointless than ESO isn't helping.
Hehe, I agree.
I've played GW2 for a few hundered hours and ESO for like 10 hours. Saying that ESO is shallow and GW2 is not, is just straight trolling. But I'll play along.
OP, the point is to have fun. If it's not fun for you, then obviously, it has no point.
Originally posted by Thane well, you lost me when you said GW2 had the better pvp system ^^
Yep. Also listing two games more pointless than ESO isn't helping.
Hehe, I agree.
I've played GW2 for a few hundered hours and ESO for like 10 hours. Saying that ESO is shallow and GW2 is not, is just straight trolling. But I'll play along.
OP, the point is to have fun. If it's not fun for you, then obviously, it has no point.
Yeah you see. You never really "get" the combat of Gw2 below 5k achievement points. And its not the number that is important but the time you need to reach this. You don't have "Press X to blast whatever combo some ultimate dropped" in Gw2. You have to observe. And you have to know the mechanics in case there are overlapping combo fields. I have a friend playing Gw2, with 900AP, quite successful in PvP but they guy has no idea about combo fields. Nor trait synergy. He copied a build off of metabattle and rolls with it. As a result I win versus him 10/10. So much that he started hating playing against me.
So yeah, Gw2 certainly has depth and its a little hard to "get it".
On the teso side ... is everyone still running robe armor/destruction staff? Been playing a bit of TESO lately but haven't gotten to Cyrodil yet.
Main story is okay, but sidequests are so shallow and generic, i just skip through conversations because I don't give a rats ass about them. I just do them because its the quickest way to level up.
Lockpicking is dope though xD that i agree.
P.S: 5k was the absolute minimum to join groups last year. I believe it has been increased to 8-9k by now. Its a community requirement but it is there for a reason. Below that score, you just don't play long enough to learn the game properly. And nobody wants THAT guy in their group. I don't discriminate though
Yeah you see. You never really "get" the combat of Gw2 below 5k achievement points. And its not the number that is important but the time you need to reach this. You don't have "Press X to blast whatever combo some ultimate dropped" in Gw2. You have to observe. And you have to know the mechanics in case there are overlapping combo fields. I have a friend playing Gw2, with 900AP, quite successful in PvP but they guy has no idea about combo fields. Nor trait synergy. He copied a build off of metabattle and rolls with it. As a result I win versus him 10/10. So much that he started hating playing against me.
So yeah, Gw2 certainly has depth and its a little hard to "get it".
On the teso side ... is everyone still running robe armor/destruction staff? Been playing a bit of TESO lately but haven't gotten to Cyrodil yet.
Main story is okay, but sidequests are so shallow and generic, i just skip through conversations because I don't give a rats ass about them. I just do them because its the quickest way to level up.
Lockpicking is dope though xD that i agree.
P.S: 5k was the absolute minimum to join groups last year. I believe it has been increased to 8-9k by now. Its a community requirement but it is there for a reason. Below that score, you just don't play long enough to learn the game properly. And nobody wants THAT guy in their group. I don't discriminate though
Actually, I think that combat in GW2 is pretty cool, if not the best of all MMORPG's. It's a fine mix of action combat and tab-target and I think it works great for MMO's. Much more interesting than WoW combat which can be done while watching TV, but not so demanding like Wildstar's, where you can't just relax, sit back and play for hours, without being very focused.
My main problem with GW2 is that the main story is shallow, open world questing requires no communication between players, end game is collecting armor skins for your character, etc.etc.
Idk OP. I have members of the other factions who hate me. Surviving the day w/o out giving them the pleasure of killing me, while stealing as much joy from them as possible is the point for me atm.
You do have one semi fair point though. Some do not care about winning or losing. Here's the thing some campaigns can't be won. This may change in 7 days, 14 days, 30 days. It's war out there ever battle cannot be won.
Originally posted by Thane well, you lost me when you said GW2 had the better pvp system ^^
Yep. Also listing two games more pointless than ESO isn't helping.
Hehe, I agree.
I've played GW2 for a few hundered hours and ESO for like 10 hours. Saying that ESO is shallow and GW2 is not, is just straight trolling. But I'll play along.
OP, the point is to have fun. If it's not fun for you, then obviously, it has no point.
I love Lotro and I like(or better put, am impressed with) GW2. But if I were into PvP, I can't imagine mentioning LotRO as an example vs. ESO in terms of "having a point".
When DeniZg said.
The intention of any game developer is to pull you into their game and make you care about the things you do in it. Without that, any game is literally just pressing buttons and using a mouse to make stuff happen on your screen. If that's how you feel about it, then you're clearly playing the wrong game for you.
It can been seen with faction pride, which is 0. None care about factions, no one cares about scrolls, no one cares about keeps. It has been bioled down to the fastest way that day to get AP.
No wonder you don't like it if that's the way the people you play with play it,
The two PVP guilds I run with play it right. We have a lot of success and have a lot of fun doing it... APs just come as they come.
But I do know the types you're talking about. They're the min/maxers of the PVP world that just care about large numbers. A pathetic bunch really who just fuck it up for themselves... probably the same crowd who won't set foot in Cyrodiil in the first place unless they're VR14 with best in slot gear.
But it ain't the game's fault if my (very active) guild does it regularly and can have fun with it. People can fuck anything up for themselves with a shitty attitude.
Out of curiosity which guilds do you belong to?
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I played it on release, and thought the pvp was really boring. The map was gigantic, My first pvp session was a 45 minutes run with a flag (or something like that) without a single fight.
Every time I tried to pvp after this, I found myself running around more then anything.
It was really laggy too, and fighting was clunky.
In my opinion, GW2 oPvP was far superior. Especially the combat mechanism.
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part of the reason why i stopped.
-Other than vr content being other faction content and too much exp to farm.
-Bugged maing quest last boss fight. Looked more like them harassing me than it being a random bug which they did not fix for a month while my subscription was on going. Maybe I could have asked for refund at that time? I would rather not have to ask for a refund and have my time wasted on bugs or other problems.
-too much sidequesting and requiring too much exp per level to follow main story. ( you could say its a typical mmo or even single player experience. but side questing was nothing really special so its not a great experience lvling which is mostly solo, or people used to farm dungeons with bots or not bots for gear since it was pretty worht their while instead of making epic quests per area for epic loot they just made farmable dungeons which to be fair would be better if it was not packed with other people... assuming the boss fights were 'fun'.
-buggy combat when it was new. ruined the balance at an obvious level.
-Single player MMO, with very little group content, end game, mini games, or mmo content in general.
They basically blew their development on the journey, so that was what ESo was, which was fine for a month subscription, but i got robbed of completing ESO due to being stuck in the room after defeating the final boss. So as a single player it failed in that regard and being too long winded.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
No wonder you don't like it if that's the way the people you play with play it,
The two PVP guilds I run with play it right. We have a lot of success and have a lot of fun doing it... APs just come as they come.
But I do know the types you're talking about. They're the min/maxers of the PVP world that just care about large numbers. A pathetic bunch really who just fuck it up for themselves... probably the same crowd who won't set foot in Cyrodiil in the first place unless they're VR14 with best in slot gear.
But it ain't the game's fault if my (very active) guild does it regularly and can have fun with it. People can fuck anything up for themselves with a shitty attitude.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
TESO has a point. it is a game afterall. And one that i recently learned to enjoy a lot again. Iam Cooping the story with a buddy of mine and we are having a lot of fun. Like 3-4 Hours a day after work. We listen to all those dialogs, read the books we have to fetch for quests and ride our horses around the land, enjoying landmarks and sometimes even roleplay.
We are not playing this game like a grind-themepark mmo. thats the key.
i had loads of fun in pvp, too. Been playing a nightblade archer. Now that i rerolled with my buddy to play coop, im playing a sorc archer. Its pretty fun and also damn strong.
We are always looking for "innovation" and "new things" but once they are in your reach, people are just looking for those good ol' things. (oh holy trinity - which actually exists, but with a little twist)
Age of Conan was a good game. Up until lvl 35~ i think, when you start grinding that solo instance. Might be fixed by now, but that went on my nerves. Also it is a lot more expensive if you want to play it in later-game. buy all the DLCs o/
GW2 never interested me. The story was horrible, PvE was absolute BS and the pvp was only enjoyable, once you reached the higher levels. Sooo interesting...
So what really is the point of ESO now? To have fun. Thats for sure. And iam having fun. With absolutely everything the game has to offer right now. I hadn't had that in an MMO in a long time.
However: its always personal preference. If you like 1-60 Grinds with endcontent 20 Man raids geartreadmil ESO is not for you.
If you like Sandbox running around killing players, building stuff(?) ESO is also not for you.
and then there is the guy with idiotic reply for the puppy
people like diffrent stuff try to get that into ur head and stop acting like a kid
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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
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Yep. Also listing two games more pointless than ESO isn't helping.
I have the same feelings about TESO,the PVE is boring and the RvR is the usual zerging maybe just a little better than GW2.
GW2 by the way gives me the same boredom,you login and the only goal is to farm to get gold and then buy gem to buy pretty skins of equipment.
AOC never played,LOTRO is still the best game I ever played,I just don't play because the expansion pack are too expensive and turbine don't even think about a little graphic and animation upgrade.
Maybe after the console release we'll see in TESO some more fun content,for now I'm not uninstalling it but I just give 2-3 months waiting for news about the new content.
I think you'll see the Imperial City a lot sooner than that... lots of rumors and hints that it's coming very soon.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
I think the point of TESO is the same as all the wow clones.
Do most of the content solo, all time same kind of quests but with different level and use other people for do dungeons. You dont need to talk a lot or socialice in games like TESO. Is just a move forward without using your brain.
In my opinion, you will enjoy much more TES than TESO. Single player games are much more challeging than this kind of games.
There is no point.
Hehe, I agree.
I've played GW2 for a few hundered hours and ESO for like 10 hours. Saying that ESO is shallow and GW2 is not, is just straight trolling. But I'll play along.
OP, the point is to have fun. If it's not fun for you, then obviously, it has no point.
Yeah you see. You never really "get" the combat of Gw2 below 5k achievement points. And its not the number that is important but the time you need to reach this. You don't have "Press X to blast whatever combo some ultimate dropped" in Gw2. You have to observe. And you have to know the mechanics in case there are overlapping combo fields. I have a friend playing Gw2, with 900AP, quite successful in PvP but they guy has no idea about combo fields. Nor trait synergy. He copied a build off of metabattle and rolls with it. As a result I win versus him 10/10. So much that he started hating playing against me.
So yeah, Gw2 certainly has depth and its a little hard to "get it".
On the teso side ... is everyone still running robe armor/destruction staff? Been playing a bit of TESO lately but haven't gotten to Cyrodil yet.
Main story is okay, but sidequests are so shallow and generic, i just skip through conversations because I don't give a rats ass about them. I just do them because its the quickest way to level up.
Lockpicking is dope though xD that i agree.
P.S: 5k was the absolute minimum to join groups last year. I believe it has been increased to 8-9k by now. Its a community requirement but it is there for a reason. Below that score, you just don't play long enough to learn the game properly. And nobody wants THAT guy in their group. I don't discriminate though
Actually, I think that combat in GW2 is pretty cool, if not the best of all MMORPG's. It's a fine mix of action combat and tab-target and I think it works great for MMO's. Much more interesting than WoW combat which can be done while watching TV, but not so demanding like Wildstar's, where you can't just relax, sit back and play for hours, without being very focused.
My main problem with GW2 is that the main story is shallow, open world questing requires no communication between players, end game is collecting armor skins for your character, etc.etc.
Idk OP. I have members of the other factions who hate me. Surviving the day w/o out giving them the pleasure of killing me, while stealing as much joy from them as possible is the point for me atm.
You do have one semi fair point though. Some do not care about winning or losing. Here's the thing some campaigns can't be won. This may change in 7 days, 14 days, 30 days. It's war out there ever battle cannot be won.
I love Lotro and I like(or better put, am impressed with) GW2. But if I were into PvP, I can't imagine mentioning LotRO as an example vs. ESO in terms of "having a point".
When DeniZg said.
The intention of any game developer is to pull you into their game and make you care about the things you do in it. Without that, any game is literally just pressing buttons and using a mouse to make stuff happen on your screen. If that's how you feel about it, then you're clearly playing the wrong game for you.
Out of curiosity which guilds do you belong to?
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Did TESO pvp get better?
I played it on release, and thought the pvp was really boring. The map was gigantic, My first pvp session was a 45 minutes run with a flag (or something like that) without a single fight.
Every time I tried to pvp after this, I found myself running around more then anything.
It was really laggy too, and fighting was clunky.
In my opinion, GW2 oPvP was far superior. Especially the combat mechanism.
what he said...there is no point but having fun WHILE playing it