I'm really shocked to hear of people happen to have AMD driver related issues. Did you try AMD 10-15 years ago? Because I recently reinstalled my Windows, windows automatically got me some old WHQL driver (13.12 i think?) Didn't bother to upgrade everything was working smooth. Then Witcher 3 came along. Downloaded the latest BETA, double clicked the installer, pressed next bunch of times, rebooted, enabled AMD overdrive from the CATALYST CONTROL CENTER, and from the same CATALYST CONTROL CENTER i allowed the fan speed to go to 100%
Are you people blind or something? I guess I should do 101 video tutorials in YouTube about installing drivers. Maybe i hit big on them ad money. It's evident people do not know how to install 5-click install software.
Also, AMD does offer an app that automatically checks for driver updates and has recommended game settings based on your hardware. It also tracks and rewards your gaming -> http://www.amd.com/en-us/markets/game/downloads/raptr
So, it is pretty evident. Both vendors sell the same stuff. Plus/minus some proprietary tech.
Bad news for green team is that the G-Sync enabled monitors cost 200$ more. And nVidia is not keen on supporting Adaptive Sync.
Bottom line, both vendors have steady production lines and they offer the same thing. Its up to the buyer to make the choice on which one is better for their wallet / gaming experience. Both vendors constantly 1-up each other. Don't let yourself get fooled.
AMD driver issues (at least on Windows) stopped being a thing awhile ago. Everyone saying otherwise is misinforming you or they have poor IT skills and don't know better.
Are you people blind or something? I guess I should do 101 video tutorials in YouTube about installing drivers. Maybe i hit big on them ad money. It's evident people do not know how to install 5-click install software.
Maybe create an idiots guide to coding video for the AMD devs to help them out while your at it.
Are you people blind or something? I guess I should do 101 video tutorials in YouTube about installing drivers. Maybe i hit big on them ad money. It's evident people do not know how to install 5-click install software.
Maybe create an idiots guide to coding video for the AMD devs to help them out while your at it.
Well given its their Mantle API at the core of the next generation OpenGL (aka Vulkan), I think their coders are alright. Good troll attempt though. Might've worked on a braindead person.
Well given its their Mantle API at the core of the next generation OpenGL (aka Vulkan), I think their coders are alright. Good troll attempt though. Might've worked on a braindead person.
There's a reason driver uninstall/cleaner tools have existed for AMD/ATi for such a long time. That is one thing i can personally say i constantly had issues with when i had ATi cards, was updating drivers and it not messing up. Just got into the habit of uninstalling the drivers, running the ati driver cleaner tool, and installing the new one.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
Hrimmir I used to be the same way. I mainly used ATi back then because they were simply faster until the 8800s. So doing a clean driver install was worth it. But its been almost a decade since AMD has had such driver issues. NVidia has had more driver issues in recent years than AMD.
Yeah you needed that tool ... 5+ years ago. Its no longer supported and if you happen to find it somewhere, it will cause more harm than good. These days you just pop the installer and it all works. Most of the times no reboot is required even.
Both vendor have pretty decent drivers on the Windows PC.
Yeah you needed that tool ... 5+ years ago. Its no longer supported and if you happen to find it somewhere, it will cause more harm than good. These days you just pop the installer and it all works. Most of the times no reboot is required even.
Both vendor have pretty decent drivers on the Windows PC.
Funny, i had to do it with the radeon 5450 in my theater room HTPC a little over a year ago because i tried to just "pop the installer" and it "worked" so well that i had to load into safe mode, uninstall the driver, run the driver cleaner tool, and reinstall the new driver, just get things back to normal...
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
Yeah you needed that tool ... 5+ years ago. Its no longer supported and if you happen to find it somewhere, it will cause more harm than good. These days you just pop the installer and it all works. Most of the times no reboot is required even.
Both vendor have pretty decent drivers on the Windows PC.
Funny, i had to do it with the radeon 5450 in my theater room HTPC a little over a year ago because i tried to just "pop the installer" and it "worked" so well that i had to load into safe mode, uninstall the driver, run the driver cleaner tool, and reinstall the new driver, just get things back to normal...
5450 launched 6 years ago. Its also an entry-level card. nV has issues with those too. The lowest supported GPU by AMD at the moment is Radeon HD 7000+ series (GCN 1.0+). Driver support in the past 3-4 years has been fantastic and on par with nVidia.
Which brings me to my point. Pick whatever is right for your wallet. Both vendors have high end GPU which are more than enough to give you bragging rights if you are after that. Of course it will cost you.
The R9 3xx will likely be 4K ready which the today's announced GTX 980 Ti has proven it can do 4K @ 30 fps and lower graphics.
I have no scientific or logical reason that I can explain, but whenever I've tried AMD cards, they seem to have more issues with games than NVIDIA does. Don't know why.
Originally posted by mgilbrtsn I have no scientific or logical reason that I can explain, but whenever I've tried AMD cards, they seem to have more issues with games than NVIDIA does. Don't know why.
Ask nVidia users how they feel about hairworks on Witcher 3. Most of them have it disabled because it absolutely tanks the framerate. Of course it depends on the types of games you play.
Some run smoother on AMD, some run smoother in Intel and some of them run smoother on nVidia. It all depends on the developers.
Obviously if a game has nVidia logos all over its box, it most likely will run far better on nVidia hardware. For obvious reasons.
I mean, we don't even need to discuss this. There's YouTube, you can clearly see that both vendors have an amazing offerings that outperform each other on various games. The difference is minimal.
Originally posted by mgilbrtsn I have no scientific or logical reason that I can explain, but whenever I've tried AMD cards, they seem to have more issues with games than NVIDIA does. Don't know why.
Ask nVidia users how they feel about hairworks on Witcher 3. Most of them have it disabled because it absolutely tanks the framerate. Of course it depends on the types of games you play.
Some run smoother on AMD, some run smoother in Intel and some of them run smoother on nVidia. It all depends on the developers.
Obviously if a game has nVidia logos all over its box, it most likely will run far better on nVidia hardware. For obvious reasons.
Can't argue with you. Like I said in my post, I have no idea why, and I'm not against AMD. I'm sure NVIDIA has issues also. Just my observation. I play a variety of games.
"I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone." Robin Williams
5450 launched 6 years ago. Its also an entry-level card. nV has issues with those too. The lowest supported GPU by AMD at the moment is Radeon HD 7000+ series (GCN 1.0+). Driver support in the past 3-4 years has been fantastic and on par with nVidia.
early 2000-2005 on and off both ATI-Nvidia then in for couple up to 2009 i was Nvidia.
2009 came DX11 and first videocards from AMD 5870.
And sind's 2009 i never went back to Nvidia.
Got 2x 5870-6970-7970-2x 290x.
Now im waiting for AMD 390X(or FURY?)8GB.
I have not experience BLACK SCREEN or crashes in all those years and had no real driver problems.
But i know what im doing, build my own rigs, expert in PC and solve problems.
Im someone who uses his PC(HIGH END) EVERYDAY FOR AT LEAST 15 HOURS.
I run most games smooth with good FPS last 2 year on 2560x1440p my 290x performs very well no driver problems.
Latest game The Wicher 3 SMOOTH from launch 100 hours so far no prolems at all with AMD 290X.
Most prefer Nvidia i prefer AMD and stick with AMD as long quality stays as im used now sinds 2009 no Nvidia for me.
Also AMD is for gamers Nvidia is in for greed with over priced cards no way i support that.
Welcome to the club. There's eleventy billion nvidia users who can say the same thing. Your personal experience doesn't speak for everyone. People aren't coming up with this out of thin air. Ive been doing the graphics card thing for a long time, (i still have my voodoo 2 sli board that had 12mb of vram). I and many of my friends had plenty of driver issues with AMD, we all know what we're doing, like i said, been building my own PC's since the pentium 1 days. Point is, some people are gonna have problems, some won't. You happen to be one of the ones who didn't.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
Originally posted by Hrimnir Originally posted by Classicstarearly 2000-2005 on and off both ATI-Nvidia then in for couple up to 2009 i was Nvidia.2009 came DX11 and first videocards from AMD 5870.And sind's 2009 i never went back to Nvidia.Got 2x 5870-6970-7970-2x 290x.Now im waiting for AMD 390X(or FURY?)8GB.I have not experience BLACK SCREEN or crashes in all those years and had no real driver problems.But i know what im doing, build my own rigs, expert in PC and solve problems.Im someone who uses his PC(HIGH END) EVERYDAY FOR AT LEAST 15 HOURS.I run most games smooth with good FPS last 2 year on 2560x1440p my 290x performs very well no driver problems.Latest game The Wicher 3 SMOOTH from launch 100 hours so far no prolems at all with AMD 290X.Most prefer Nvidia i prefer AMD and stick with AMD as long quality stays as im used now sinds 2009 no Nvidia for me.Also AMD is for gamers Nvidia is in for greed with over priced cards no way i support that.
Welcome to the club. There's eleventy billion nvidia users who can say the same thing. Your personal experience doesn't speak for everyone. People aren't coming up with this out of thin air. Ive been doing the graphics card thing for a long time, (i still have my voodoo 2 sli board that had 12mb of vram). I and many of my friends had plenty of driver issues with AMD, we all know what we're doing, like i said, been building my own PC's since the pentium 1 days. Point is, some people are gonna have problems, some won't. You happen to be one of the ones who didn't.
Your missing my point totally but thats ok
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77 CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now)) MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB PSU:Corsair AX1200i OS:Windows 10 64bit
I used nvidia in the past (7600gt and 8800gt) and ati/amd more recently (5670, 7850) and I never had any problems like BSOD or crashing because of driver issues. I don't really know what qualifies the drivers being "better" than the other, but honestly in this day and age you shouldn't have any problems with either one that doesn't stem from an issue with the game itself. Unless you just get a dud card.
If you're going to pick a card, and don't buy into brand loyalty, then you should look at each generation of cards and the recent history of what people are saying about them. Sometimes AMD is better and sometimes NVidia is better. Both have their issues, and both have their strengths. I use a lot of AMD cards, but it's mostly a cost/benefit thing. I'm not looking for the best performance, I'm looking at the best performance for the $ spent.
With that in mind, my next upgrade is going to be an AMD APU based system with no external video card. It's not going to give nearly the performance of an Intel system with a discrete video card, but I'm going to save enough money that it doesn't matter. In two years I'll just upgrade again for an equally small amount of money.
Amd's only problem is many games are not optimized for there cards this way it looks drivers suck, which is in most cases not true it just perform less sometimes.
I use AMD sinds 2009 and a few friends of mine also and same as me not realy have problems with drivers not more then Nvidia users have.
Go to steam game forums or toms hardware with problems for drivers many times Nvidia users also have huge drivers problems. Latest driver problems in The Witcher 3 a gameworks title came from Nvidia users not AMD majority AMD users had a smooth run on that game just less FPS some times but thats all even hairworks with tweak in catalyst make hairworks work great.
I buy AMD because no problems and no greedy prices and sure less performance but i still have smooth play with most games. I bought 290x 2x and still had almost no problems only Xfire don't work allways but i knew that upfront so i won't whine about it.
My next will be again top AMD fury x card or what every it's called. Just to support them hope they survive we need two videocard makers to have healty competions.
I know most don't care and don't understand but i don't care you don't care for me i just hope AMD survive and deliver a great high end card which will be launched on 16th of june 2015.
Have good fun with whatever card you have.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77 CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now)) MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB PSU:Corsair AX1200i OS:Windows 10 64bit
For one. ENB+parallax textures (skyrim mods) doesn't work properly on AMD. AMD doesn't support parallax textures properly on the test card I was given by my friend. Its a newer, more modern AMD card too that cost him 225 euros I believe (I live in the U.S). With parallax on, I had a HUGE framerate drop. Compared to Nvidia where I only lose a few fps with parallax.
Also, witcher 3 doesn't work nearly as good on AMD
Drivers for BOTH cards suck, and both make okay/good ones...Nvidia focuses WAY too much on the new cards at the expense of the older ones. Dunno if AMD does the same.
I bought three AMD cards over the past 10 years that either were broken, or very noisy. But that is a personal experience. My friends one was fine. But because of that, I ended up sticking with Nvidia
Finally...
AMD and Nvidia is like windows vs mac...both have their fanbase that won't budge to the other OS :P And the very rare case they go to the other OS, they go right back to the OS they prefer :P
My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
It seems that Nvidia made a checkmate move with the release of the GTX 980 Ti and totally blindsided AMD. A card in Titan X's performance range at half it's price. I wonder if AMD has an answer to this.
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I tend to be also a NVIDIA fan but it is for sure a bit more expensive
My last Nvidia was a gtx 460 and it was great - quiet and good view but at the time there was no adequate
replace and i tried amd
with AMD there was a lot more trouble with them drivers although the hardware was fine
finally i ended with a sapphire 7950 ( not the cheapest one ) and i have to admit it is a really great card
After some driver issues over the time the card works until today as it should silently ( Flex-Tech ! )
and astounding well performant ( also in 4K but not really playable - 2560x1440 is enough to play )
So lately i am looking for a new gpu but still havent found a decent replace.
I was keen on a gtx970 but meh ( prices are up after swiss euro drop ) and so i am still looking.
And my 7950 works fine... ( i nearly bought a R9 280X to build a cf just for the experience but meh no time
and too much hassle to care about )
personally i find it good to be able to choose the best card for your idea ( when money isnt the limit
)
Trying hard to become human as it should be.
I'm really shocked to hear of people happen to have AMD driver related issues. Did you try AMD 10-15 years ago? Because I recently reinstalled my Windows, windows automatically got me some old WHQL driver (13.12 i think?) Didn't bother to upgrade everything was working smooth. Then Witcher 3 came along. Downloaded the latest BETA, double clicked the installer, pressed next bunch of times, rebooted, enabled AMD overdrive from the CATALYST CONTROL CENTER, and from the same CATALYST CONTROL CENTER i allowed the fan speed to go to 100%
Are you people blind or something? I guess I should do 101 video tutorials in YouTube about installing drivers. Maybe i hit big on them ad money. It's evident people do not know how to install 5-click install software.
Also, AMD does offer an app that automatically checks for driver updates and has recommended game settings based on your hardware. It also tracks and rewards your gaming -> http://www.amd.com/en-us/markets/game/downloads/raptr
So, it is pretty evident. Both vendors sell the same stuff. Plus/minus some proprietary tech.
Bad news for green team is that the G-Sync enabled monitors cost 200$ more. And nVidia is not keen on supporting Adaptive Sync.
Bottom line, both vendors have steady production lines and they offer the same thing. Its up to the buyer to make the choice on which one is better for their wallet / gaming experience. Both vendors constantly 1-up each other. Don't let yourself get fooled.
AMD driver issues (at least on Windows) stopped being a thing awhile ago. Everyone saying otherwise is misinforming you or they have poor IT skills and don't know better.
Maybe create an idiots guide to coding video for the AMD devs to help them out while your at it.
Well given its their Mantle API at the core of the next generation OpenGL (aka Vulkan), I think their coders are alright. Good troll attempt though. Might've worked on a braindead person.
Worked like a charm, thanks.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Yeah you needed that tool ... 5+ years ago. Its no longer supported and if you happen to find it somewhere, it will cause more harm than good. These days you just pop the installer and it all works. Most of the times no reboot is required even.
Both vendor have pretty decent drivers on the Windows PC.
Funny, i had to do it with the radeon 5450 in my theater room HTPC a little over a year ago because i tried to just "pop the installer" and it "worked" so well that i had to load into safe mode, uninstall the driver, run the driver cleaner tool, and reinstall the new driver, just get things back to normal...
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
5450 launched 6 years ago. Its also an entry-level card. nV has issues with those too. The lowest supported GPU by AMD at the moment is Radeon HD 7000+ series (GCN 1.0+). Driver support in the past 3-4 years has been fantastic and on par with nVidia.
Which brings me to my point. Pick whatever is right for your wallet. Both vendors have high end GPU which are more than enough to give you bragging rights if you are after that. Of course it will cost you.
The R9 3xx will likely be 4K ready which the today's announced GTX 980 Ti has proven it can do 4K @ 30 fps and lower graphics.
I self identify as a monkey.
Ask nVidia users how they feel about hairworks on Witcher 3. Most of them have it disabled because it absolutely tanks the framerate. Of course it depends on the types of games you play.
Some run smoother on AMD, some run smoother in Intel and some of them run smoother on nVidia. It all depends on the developers.
Obviously if a game has nVidia logos all over its box, it most likely will run far better on nVidia hardware. For obvious reasons.
I mean, we don't even need to discuss this. There's YouTube, you can clearly see that both vendors have an amazing offerings that outperform each other on various games. The difference is minimal.
Can't argue with you. Like I said in my post, I have no idea why, and I'm not against AMD. I'm sure NVIDIA has issues also. Just my observation. I play a variety of games.
I self identify as a monkey.
I always tro to change GPU when it's time to buy a new videocard, it's good for competition and competition is what gives us high tech quality.
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalystOmegaWINReleaseNotes.aspx
AMD claims support in their latest drivers going back to the 5000 series.
early 2000-2005 on and off both ATI-Nvidia then in for couple up to 2009 i was Nvidia.
2009 came DX11 and first videocards from AMD 5870.
And sind's 2009 i never went back to Nvidia.
Got 2x 5870-6970-7970-2x 290x.
Now im waiting for AMD 390X(or FURY?)8GB.
I have not experience BLACK SCREEN or crashes in all those years and had no real driver problems.
But i know what im doing, build my own rigs, expert in PC and solve problems.
Im someone who uses his PC(HIGH END) EVERYDAY FOR AT LEAST 15 HOURS.
I run most games smooth with good FPS last 2 year on 2560x1440p my 290x performs very well no driver problems.
Latest game The Wicher 3 SMOOTH from launch 100 hours so far no prolems at all with AMD 290X.
Most prefer Nvidia i prefer AMD and stick with AMD as long quality stays as im used now sinds 2009 no Nvidia for me.
Also AMD is for gamers Nvidia is in for greed with over priced cards no way i support that.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
Welcome to the club. There's eleventy billion nvidia users who can say the same thing. Your personal experience doesn't speak for everyone. People aren't coming up with this out of thin air. Ive been doing the graphics card thing for a long time, (i still have my voodoo 2 sli board that had 12mb of vram). I and many of my friends had plenty of driver issues with AMD, we all know what we're doing, like i said, been building my own PC's since the pentium 1 days. Point is, some people are gonna have problems, some won't. You happen to be one of the ones who didn't.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
Your missing my point totally but thats ok
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
If you're going to pick a card, and don't buy into brand loyalty, then you should look at each generation of cards and the recent history of what people are saying about them. Sometimes AMD is better and sometimes NVidia is better. Both have their issues, and both have their strengths. I use a lot of AMD cards, but it's mostly a cost/benefit thing. I'm not looking for the best performance, I'm looking at the best performance for the $ spent.
With that in mind, my next upgrade is going to be an AMD APU based system with no external video card. It's not going to give nearly the performance of an Intel system with a discrete video card, but I'm going to save enough money that it doesn't matter. In two years I'll just upgrade again for an equally small amount of money.
Amd's only problem is many games are not optimized for there cards this way it looks drivers suck, which is in most cases not true it just perform less sometimes.
I use AMD sinds 2009 and a few friends of mine also and same as me not realy have problems with drivers not more then Nvidia users have.
Go to steam game forums or toms hardware with problems for drivers many times Nvidia users also have huge drivers problems. Latest driver problems in The Witcher 3 a gameworks title came from Nvidia users not AMD majority AMD users had a smooth run on that game just less FPS some times but thats all even hairworks with tweak in catalyst make hairworks work great.
I buy AMD because no problems and no greedy prices and sure less performance but i still have smooth play with most games. I bought 290x 2x and still had almost no problems only Xfire don't work allways but i knew that upfront so i won't whine about it.
My next will be again top AMD fury x card or what every it's called. Just to support them hope they survive we need two videocard makers to have healty competions.
I know most don't care and don't understand but i don't care you don't care for me i just hope AMD survive and deliver a great high end card which will be launched on 16th of june 2015.
Have good fun with whatever card you have.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
I went with Nvidia.
For one. ENB+parallax textures (skyrim mods) doesn't work properly on AMD. AMD doesn't support parallax textures properly on the test card I was given by my friend. Its a newer, more modern AMD card too that cost him 225 euros I believe (I live in the U.S). With parallax on, I had a HUGE framerate drop. Compared to Nvidia where I only lose a few fps with parallax.
Also, witcher 3 doesn't work nearly as good on AMD
Drivers for BOTH cards suck, and both make okay/good ones...Nvidia focuses WAY too much on the new cards at the expense of the older ones. Dunno if AMD does the same.
I bought three AMD cards over the past 10 years that either were broken, or very noisy. But that is a personal experience. My friends one was fine. But because of that, I ended up sticking with Nvidia
Finally...
AMD and Nvidia is like windows vs mac...both have their fanbase that won't budge to the other OS :P And the very rare case they go to the other OS, they go right back to the OS they prefer :P
My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/skyrim-anime-overhaul