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Tell me this game looks bad
Askatan
Member Posts: 313
screens done on a geforce4 4200 64 MB RAM, one of the lowest supported cards
this is for all those people who do not want to read through 11 pages of flaming and lies by people who often admit they have never even touched the game and still say it looks like crap
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is it beautifully rendered or what? lack of detail? I think not
"no trees in the game" "nature looks plain" yeah, sure
"no artistic vision" really? is beauty not enough? you want blocky flashy bricks of colors? sorry, not in the game
"faces look like plastic" "no deatil" O RLY? look at that face and tell me a MMORPG you can play now that looks better
do the buildings look like crap or like no one could live there?
I hope this settles the debate once and for all
Askatan
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yeah, there are a lot of things far from perfect in the game. I am not even playing any more. I am playing EVE....
but I am really sick of all that people trolling and flaming based on bad screenshots done by people who just hate SOE (and I dont like SOE too). but the graphics rock. and that must be said
Askatan
I so agree there are some things that the game lacks, but in my opinion it's not alot since i'm playing ti :-p , plus like you've proven with a bad graphic card the graphics are good even on low setting which any one would know if they actually went and played it.
- Woot PvP soon :-D
I find that Everquest 2 looks beautifull on screenshots, but when you see things in motions, and you see the crappy animations, it kinda looks choppy and un-smooth, like its a bunch of models and textures placed into a world without a bit of merging.
I play the game myself and the game has great content, but visuals is not something this game is best at, in my opinion.
I am sure this has been said about 10000 times, but the games scales down the animation if your PC is not fast enough. BUT you can adjust the detail of animation in the settings.
it wont be as realistic as the characters look, but it is much better than most games
Askatan
I hate gfx bashers, to me graphics have never been what i look for, sure its always a plus but if i can have good gameplay and good replay value thats pretty much all i care about, graphics are just the icing on the cake if they are good.
Sorry but I had to post, Zensaber your sig is awsome!
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EQ2 is just fugly. inproperly useing effects and not useing resources well doesnt make for a good looking game.
It might have looked good if the programers knew what they were doing, so I dont blame the artists entirely because they did the best with what they were givin. Still looks horrible either way
this is not the "we hate EQ2 thread" you created this alt char for, cleffy or glitterqueen. so post under your original identity or dont post at all.
actually dont post at all, since you have nothing to say anyway. "if the programers knew what they were doing" lol... you can do SO much better, I am sure...
and it is iMproperly - the word. however "improperly using effects" (another typo here) and "not using resources well" tells me you did
a) not read my graphic card specs I put up
b) and do not know that "improperly using effects" is just gibberish for "because I have no facts I can complain about, I will complain about the way it looks great. it is, in my own words improperly looking great and that is just awful!!! I resent that with all my heart!"
yeah lol
Askatan
Backgrounds look ok, but the characters have that plastic barbie doll look to them.
There's a tree branch through the middle of the archery target, the graphics suck.
Seriously, everyone knows the graphics of EQ2 when turned on full with a top of the line computer are the best. Whether it looks good on our slow machines is the true question.
Carebear
*WoW = Level 60 Priest*
*EQ2 = Level 25 Druid*
First of SOE is currently sitting on about 14 months worth of money from me. + 1 Adventure pack. I still play this game, and it's a the 2/3 best mmo on the market today. In my opinion.
""no artistic vision" really? is beauty not enough? you want blocky flashy bricks of colors? sorry, not in the game"
Yes there is no artistic vision. When running around in the world you don't manage to feel love or emotions in the artwork. The art in EQ2 feels lifeless, feels dead. When I play games I like to stop around cool looking places and look at it closer. Trying to see what the artists tried to achieve. The amount of moments like this are few in EQ2. It's brown, green, yellow, brown, green, yellow, brown, yellow, brown, slight hint of blue, green, brown, brown, brown and so on. And where are the gigantic mountains? Where are the mind blowing valleys? Where are the deep and mystical forests? Where are the 400 feet tall cliffs? Where are the castles on top of mountains? Where is something special? Nothing you find in EQ2 is really big. No buldings where you have to tilt the camera all the way back only to see a slight glimpse of the top. It's all just standard and sterile. Nothing that really blows your mind art wise.
Yes beaty is enough. But the artwork is 90% of the beaty. If the art lacks, the beaty lacks too.
""faces look like plastic" "no deatil" O RLY? look at that face and tell me a MMORPG you can play now that looks better"
Yes it looks plastic. Why? There is no texture. They just applied a color to the head mesh. The skins has no flaws, there are no wrinkles, no bump. Just a color and that is all. Most other mmo's look better in this department. Mostly because they did apply textures.
"do the buildings look like crap or like no one could live there?"
They don't look crap. Nothing looks really crap in Eq2. But it's not nice either. It's all just brown and boring. Colors used in the screens you posted: Brown, green, blue, red, purple and yellow. That is a bland color range.
And m8. Running EQ2 on a geforce4 4200 64 MB RAM with those settings doesn't give you a playeable framerate. Nice for screenshots, but impossible for playing. And it's afterall playing you do the most I hope.
My conclussion of EQ2's graphics:
Avarage. Why? Awesome technical foundation. But the artwork doesn't reflect it. The options the engine gives the artists aren't properly used. I'm sure the game would look 3 times better with more textures, more intelligent use of bump maps and more creativity.
And Askatan:
Cool down abit on the fanboyismn. Accusing people for making alts to flame you is going abit far
Look it's EQ2!
wait a second... ah close enough
Great screenshots by OP...of 2 people. Is that how many play EQ2 nowadays?
Well said mate. Perfectly sums up my feelings on EQ2 graphics in general.
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the scenery is gorgious...
the characters are hidious.
not to mention they walk like nobody ive ever met.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
The graphics are lovely, but fantasy games are just too perky.
Wish someone would come out with a decent dark gritty sci fi MMO, and I dont mean lame commercial crap like The Matrix, I mean like a Cyberpunk type RPG with computer hackers, megacorporations, yakuza, and so forth.
AO had some good concepts but the style just wasn't gritty, it felt like sci fi everquest happy perky crap running through greater druidmart.
Anyway, carebear games are dead to me, so who cares.
Right now I would rate even WoW higher than Everquest, which is shameful because wow is garbage, but mainly I would rate wow higher is because they actually have a workable pvp system that gives tangible rewards.
But I encourage developers to stick to their own vision, and stick to their guns. If they feel the need to stay a carebear/fantasy game then so be it. Not everything has to be in line with what the playerbase thinks, look at SWG, they tried to wow the game and it turned into a bucket of jizz on all the players.
UO tried to pacify the carebear playerbase, now the game is doodoo.
Developers should have their own minds, their own vision for the game, and they should stick to their guns no matter what the playerbase (me included) think.
eq2 looks nice ^^
I agree somewhat, I do agree that EQ2 has high grade graphics, but when it comes to my personal taste I think EQ2 graphics are lame.. too americanized / cartoony, I dono.
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There's no denying that EQ2's graphics are superior technology-wise. However, where it fails at is artistic style. If you look at certain zones like Antonica, the zone looks computer-generated. You can literally see how often the textures are repeated, even on the highest settings. The grass looks like it's tacked on rather than belonging on the terrain and there's little variation. All in all, it looks very bland and uninteresting. Same can be said about the city zones. Though they contain a lot of detail, the overall feeling is very drab because pretty much everything is made out of wood and thus, brown. Does it look realistic? Sure it does. But does it look pretty? Not really.
There are some nice-looking zones though, such as the Enchanted Lands. But for the most part, the graphics are quite bland. The zoning doesn't help either because, although zoning in itself isn't a bad thing (a lot of games have it despite how many people clamor that it's a serious bane to gameplay), EQ2's zones feel more like islands than actual land masses. Zones like Antonica, Thundering Steppes, and Commonlands are surrounded by water, and the others have naturally impassable barriers such as mountains or walls. It makes the world feel very claustrophobic and not very expansive at all.
To make a comparison, let's look at the starter zone for night elves in World of Warcraft (I forgot what it's called). The moment you land in the game, you can feel yourself immersed. The ground has plenty of variety in textures and the ground is hilly and bumpy in a way that looks natural. There's small shimmering spirits floating about and the lamps on the road have flies buzzing around them. The buildings look as if they are part of the landscape and if you look up you can see the sunlight piercing through the trees. It's a very beautiful experience and you're instantly sucked into the world.
So in summary, EQ2's graphics aren't bad technically, but it fails to have any artistic style. Sure, it might be realistic, but sometimes being too realistic is boring.