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General: Tree of Life - Early Access Packages Revealed
SBFord
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Tree of Life is today ready to enter Early Access through the sale of a pair of packages: Settler for $19.99, Adventurer for $24.99 with an additional Settler four-pack available for $59.99.
Each package comes with a variety of in-game items. The first phase of early access will run from today through June 2nd.
Find out more on the Tree of Life Steam page.
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Is this actually a PvE sandbox MMO?
Or am I missing the standard PvP talk? All I've read so far is defending your village from monsters.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
Tree of Life is mainly a PvE Survival MMO. Not exactly sure how "massively" it is, but you do play with other people in the world. I don't think there's any PvP implemented at the time of writing this.
EDIT: People are claiming to be attacked by other players but I am not sure if it's a bug or actual PvP. I do know that at night if you aren't near a campfire you get hit by these invisible things....not sure what that's about.
Now, which one of you will adorn me today?
It has PvP.
From reading the comments section it sounds like DayZish in both good and bad ways.
From user : LuckyBlonde on Steam "( btw, you'll need few trustworthy comrades, if you want to be safe from bandits and killers, because there is full pvp with its penalties. I have already met some guys with red nicknames, uttering battle cries and trying to kill people.. and failing miserably ) "
Also on Size : User Enternight on steam says
" What I particularly like is being free to raise any skill I want, finding new things to craft along the way, etc.
The game is still a bit rough, but very playable and enjoyable once you understand how it works.
Also, the map is HUGE ! It will take you lots of camp fire stops to cross the map. "
Ah, that would explain part of the popularity. That's practically an untapped niche at this point. (MMO wise at least.)
I might just check it out.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
Ah, nevermind. Same as all the rest then. I'll stick to playing 7D2D in coop with friends then.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
... and there goes my interest.
*Sigh*
When will someone FINALLY learn?
People are comparing it to games like Don't Starve and Salem. I thought it was pretty cool until laughing-man confirmed PvP. Ugh.
Now, which one of you will adorn me today?
I really dont get people like you. Why in the hell do you want a PvE sandbox? Do you really think anyone gives a shit about your pretty house if they cant destroy and or take it from you? Why not just play the plethora of PvE themeparks or go play a single player 'sim' type game? There is literally HUNDREDS of them.
Because some people enjoy the creative and cooperative parts, without having to put up with random douchebags that just go around ganking everyone for the heck of it.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
Did you read what you wrote?
You asked them why they wanted a PvE sandbox, you then suggested they play one of the "plethora" of PvE Themeparks (good substitution!) and then also suggested a single player game which doesn't offer the social interaction of an mmo.
Maybe you don't get them because you are not listening to them?
Additionally I know of at least one pve sandbox so there's probably room for more.
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I'd want the same thing actually. I enjoy being able to create my character as I want to (choice of skills, talents etc...) and the ability to do what i like without the fear of being ganked all the time. I suppose it wouldn't be so bad if you're in a Guild or large community but for people that play casually on their own i can see the desire for a pve sandbox.
I know two. You have Wurm Online PvE server. Hell...even on the PvP island the PvE creatures are more punishing! and I think ATITD is still alive somewhere, although not a lot of news on it's development. Hell that game did not even have enemies to fight. Was still a good sandbox game. The only PvP you had was building things better or higher then someone else.
If this was true, then would most video's for example youtube not be about destruction instead of creating thing? Would a game like minecraft not be less popular? There is also more to a sandbox then watching someones house..or destroying it. Really even a PvP game is for most people not about destroying stuff.
I bought the game and I have to say it is different (In a good way). I am helping a group of people build a village now.
There is PVP and when a group is fighting mobs you can accidentally hit each other because it has non tab targeting,
My name in game is BackSide.
PVP sandboxes always sound fun, but they just end up wolves eating sheep until the sheep leave. Then the wolves leave after cannibalizing themselves for a bit.
PVP sandboxes will never be anything but niche games with a handful of players. As soon as someone makes a PVE sandbox or at least make serious consequences for unwarranted ganking in a PVP one they will reap the benefits of the massive casual audience. Until then we will all just have to watch these PVP sandboxes fail one by one because they only cater to a very small group of people. Most people prefer PVE and most people are casual.
I think the problem is that unlike how things were back in the start of this Genre, we now all hear about a game, and locust the crap out of it. We eat all the content and we are ready with our red guilds our blue guilds our farmer clans all at start.
When UO started, when SWG started, we didn't have these things nearly as much. Things formed organically, we had friends who crafted our swords or blasters who we protected and guilds formed around these ideas. And the murderers had to react by forming their own groups to continue to benefit from attacking the crafters. Thus content was born.
It's hard to have this all happen organically now.
I was excited until FFA PVP....just never makes sense. Why not have a flagging system where if you are not flagged for PVP, you cannot be touched.
PVP'ers always go back to the "it doesn't help the realistic nature of it" to be able to flag. I say "And having goblins in a game does??"
That's not really a good comparison. One speaks to a mechanic, and one to a 'flavor'. I personally don't mind the flagging system, it just needs to be implemented in such a way that you can't flag/unflag/flag/unflag in order to exploit the mechanic. I could do with a PvE sandbox game if done right.
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I haven't experienced too much PVP in the game, but on paper it doesn't seem too bad. When you die by player or mob you have a chance to drop 1 item. If you are a player killer (red name) and die you drop everything. I haven't seen any skill lose or any other negative after death.
I don't think that's too bad. The only thing is, do you turn red if you attack a PKer? If not, I think that'll be pretty cool, then you could defend yourself. If not, then it may not be such as good as I thought.
Okay i've played this for several hours, why? don't know curious I guess anyway
You start out in what appears to be a random location, I started out on the shore in the dead of night, which meant I saw lot of various shapes of black against a night sky when I first started (always the best time to try and figure something out, when you can't see anything)
There's a few things to keep track of, first off food, this one seems to always be playing on you and seems to be a game in and of itself just keeping it full. It is out of 500 and decreases about 1 point every .5 to 1 seconds. above 350 allows you to restore lost health. below 50 resorts you to walking.
magic so far I have not seen yet, you have stamina but that restores quickly.
You raise your stats by training skills that are associated with it, like farming gives you 1 to con and 1 to str.
There are two major problems with this game as far as I can tell: You need to be almost constantly eating food just to stay feed (You need to refill your bar from empty about every 10 to 15 minutes of playtime some refill you 35 while cook meet refills you 200 or 250, but thats harder to come by, or just eat food about every 2-3 minutes to keep it high)
The other is the show stopper for people, You turn red if you kill someone but not if you attack them, also from what i've seen destroying people's buildings/stealing their supplies keeps you in yellow status, which means you can just walk up to a person's camp take their stuff when they attack and kill you, have someone else come in and kill them and take the stuff off their corpse while they wait the 3 minutes to respawn. It's super easy to grief an entire settlement trying to work it's way up if you are determined. this needs to be fixed, attacking something that isn't yours or taking from someone's stuff (machine or storehouse) needs to flag you red, at that point you are sabotaging them, and they need a way to attack back that won't cause them to end up with the raw deal. If you need something from someone's camp you ask them and they give it to you.
You can still take from them if you are that type of character but you also have the risk associated with the reward that you might be killed by them. Otherwise you could loot the entire town (as far as you can get) and just drop 1 item and boom you are out of there (as people so far as i can see can't see ghosts) Very little risk for a metric ton of reward.
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Some of us don't care who gives a crap about the pretty things we build, except for the people we are building them with. Some people want a sandbox where people interact, collaborate, cooperate, and build things together. There are a dozen or so PvP sandboxes but very few choices for PvE sandboxes. When the mention of one shows up, we think that's neat.
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Kinda agree. There need to be a lot more PvE sandboxes out there, or have the option to add distinctive PvE/PvP areas, I don't care about those db's that gank whatever walks out there either, though at times I do want to play some PvP.
I like the way Elite: Dangerous has taken up the PvP/PvE sandbox issue. The main world is pure PvP along with all the db's you can think off, but when you create a private group you can set general (non forced!) rules for it and make it PvE (with optional concentual PvP between players), leaving out he ganking db's you don't want in there (I'm in one of such groups).
Lets dig a bit deeper into this (Tree of Life I mean) game and see how PvE/PvP is handled...
Why the pve crows try to turn every sandbox pvp into pve ruining the fun for the hardcore playerbase who like survival mmo?
Tree of life is a territory conquest clan warfare game, go play a themepark or another sandbox pve game like Skysaga if you want ypve only.
But what's so fun about pve sandbox without any risk? You buil a town, gather resources and what? There is no conflict, nothing to fight over, you kill some stupid mobs AI all the time, then you left the game bored.
If you don't like ffa pvp then leave and stop ruin the fun for us sandbox lovers, simple as that.
Hopefully developers don't listen to this small crowd and watering down their vision or we will have another good sandbox game turned into a carebear game, there is already plenty of them we don't need more.
ps: wait they fix the invisible mobs issue then i will 100% buy the game.
Where are these dozen of pvp sandbox you mention? I see only themepark and pve sandbox around, and Dayz and H1Z1 or similar games aren't sandbox but multiplayer coop games with 32 people on a little single map.
Tree of life is one of the first true MMO sandbox i come across since Mortal Online, where the map (a very big map) can support more than 1000+ players and not 32 in 4 inches of map.
Sorry for you, but indeed if you can't handle pvp then this game is not meant for your tastes, wait for Skysaga or Oort online, or The Repopuation normal server, also ESO ans Wildstar have some sandbox features.
Pratically 95% of the mmorpg market is for the pve crowd, this want to turn a pvp game into a pve boring mobfest make no sense at all.
Everyone has their own play style. Why is it that HC players that love pvp call pve players "carebears" and pve players call the pvp players "db" or "gangers" or "griefers"?
We are all gamers, we all like different kinds of game types. They have 3 servers now, why would it be so hard to list America HC server and America PvE server? The engine and resources don't look like they would take a huge chunk of money to add another instance running a different rule set game.
With all the difference of opinion you say that the "small crowd" is trying to water down the game.... if you read through the forums its about a 50/50 split.
Another thing about the pvp or pve servers, you will always get those pve players that want a blend of pvp coming to the pvp server. You very seldom see pvp player coming to a pve server. Seems like the pve players are more versatile and open to a blended mix of game play where pvp'ers just want to kill each other, destroy others towns and enjoy the full on open pvp.
We have seen this before and I don't remember a game that ever went from pvp to full pve and disregarded the wishes of a pvp player. However, we have seen games that have a strong outcry from the pve community open up pve rule set server. Not sure why the pvp crowd is so worried about their being a pve server.
I can't imagine them switching the entire game to pve can anyone else??