Well, like I said in my first post above where I was comparing the two, Skyrim is as you know moddable which allows way more freedom. The Civil War in Skyrim allows many decisions with many outcomes and there are countless mods that allow this as well. Skyrim is virtually a game without end and the replayability because of choices of races and classes is much better than what the Witcher has to offer.
Imagine if an mmorpg was released with one character for thousands of people to play. WoW with 7 million Geralts! Sorry, I know it is extreme, but my main point is I want to create my own Character as an extension of myself, not what Blizzard would have picked.
In honesty I'm not one of those people who think Skryim is superior "modded' over "unmodded". I just think it's different.
Having said that, there are mods that definitely shore up some of Skyrim's shortcomings. But that's going to be an eye of the beholder thing.
I will give you the idea that skyrim has more replayability. Mods or no mods. At least from my time in the Witcher series. Then again, I've only just started Witcher 3 so who knows. I do doubt that I will be playing it for years like an elder scrolls game.
As far as a WoW with millions of Geralts? While I understand not having the same looking character in an mmo, we are talking about a single player game. It doesn't matter that there are millions of geralts. What matters is that you play the character how you think the character should be played.
I get wanting to play "your own character". But a game that has a story that revolves around a specific person is just that. It doesn't make it any less of a role playing game it just means that you are stepping into the boots of a central character and playing him or her your way.
Having said that, one would have to be invested in that character. But that's like any actor in a part. You want to bring that person to life in your own way.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
I game on a ps 4 and even though witcher looks good I will be getting ESO instead. ESO has way more replay value and I like the idea of making my own class and race. Once you beat the witcher its pretty much over. If you want to play it again you have to be the same character and class. To me that is really boring.
I will get the witcher some day when its really cheap.
I have about 10 hours into the game now. The game is a masterpiece.
I've read a lot of crap about console port etc. etc. When it comes to graphics and 1080P you will see less and less differences between new generation consoles and PC's. A couple weeks ago I bought myself a nice Acer 2k 144hz g-sync ips monitor and all I can say is I can't go back to 1080P anymore, the difference is black and white.
W3 looks stunning in 2K. All the talk about downgraded graphics is pure unadulterated Internet bull feces.
16 hours exceptional good game after tutorial map you get a HUGE world full quests wonders and action biggest city is almost as big as tutorial map lol.
Smooth as hell i have in 16 hours no crash freeze stutter tearing or any bug or problems.
Avarage 45 fps 2560x1440p Ultra no hair works on.
AMD 290X
AWESOME GAME NOW WE NEED MODS and its 10/10
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77 CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now)) MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB PSU:Corsair AX1200i OS:Windows 10 64bit
Depending on your motherboard bus speeds/ Northbridge, etc... You wont notice that much difference in fps - playing an RPG - between an i5 and i7 when you have a GPU like the GTX 980 - especially when the game is optimized well for GPUs (like CD Projekt Red always has delivered.) Also your SSD will not improve FPS, only loading data into cache... once you load your RAM and VRAM; it draws cache from there... your SSD will truthfully only affect load times for entering new areas, or loading CGI scenes, saving game data, etc....
Also remember; there will be tons of mods for this game just like 'The Witcher's of the past and games like 'Skyrim', which will offer increased graphics settings and capabilities very soon.
Loving the game for most part but myself (using controller as found Keyboard binds made game unplayable) and others (online friends) all complain about the movement in and out of combat.
For keyboards the complaint is its a 4 direction key movement rather then having 8 directions that has become standard in gaming today.
For controllers you seem to have to spend allot of time running around items in some situations.
Combat wise I got to admit I preferred The Witcher 2 combat over this version. Was just smoother over all and the leveling up in the witcher 2 was far more interesting for my money then how we doing it in TW3.
Plus I find the horse kinda useless.
You can run on foot at a pretty fast pace and that way you not constantly having to get off horse to interact with herbs and signposts and NPCs
?Graphically the game looks amazing for the world
Character model wise it has that EQ2 shiny skin issue that imo detracts from the over all experience (but thats a ultra minor complaint)
So far I think The Witcher 2 might have been just a bit better then The Witcher 3 as it was more focused on the story line (which I prefer honestly).
But still far better then the other stuff out there right now!
The sad thing is that Witcher 3, a console-bred single-player game, is actually a far better RPG than any current MMORPG.
I haven't been playing it, just watching it streamed by people playing it on console or on PC. No question the PC version looks a lot better on the streams I've watched. I'm tempted to buy it - but then see its awkward targeting, problems with the game doing things the player didn't want (like putting away a sword while still in a fight), and the business about going into the menu/backpack to pull out a potion or whatever to use in a fight.
And I've read that the game has issues being controlled with a mouse and keyboard. Like, not "a controller is better" type issues, but "the game lags using a mouse and keyboard." WTF?
Have played: Everquest, Asheron's Call, Horizons, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall
Originally posted by DMKano Forgot to add - one of the greatest games of all times - whoever said this is on craxk.
Well, that's hyperbole.
But then again what is the greatest game of all time? That's going to be different for everyone and there's not one game I can name that doesn't have issues here and there.
Could this be a contender for game of the year? Absofreakinlutely.
I've run into some glitchy things here or there but as I've mentioned elsewhere this really feels like a labor of love. The combat is much better than the last two. I actually like the combat in this one. but it's straight forward. dodge, move aside, block, attack lightly or heavily. That pretty much works for me. On top of that being the use of the magic and things like bombs.
oh come now we all know what some of the "greatest games of all time are"
Tetris
PacMan
Half Life
Doom
Quake
StarCraft
Halo
Mass Effect 2
Diablo
etc...
Monumental games that have earned their place and withstood the test of time
To put a newly released game in this list is just silly, there are many great games out there but to be worthy of "greateast game of all time" title is way premature at this point.
It's a sure sign you're getting old when you say that all the best stuff happened a long time ago
haha - well that's not the best stuff that happened - those are some of the greatest video games of all time list - again one of the important aspects of "best of all time list" is that a video game remains good for many years to come.
Do you think many people will be playing W3 for years to come?
i doubt it.
IF Mass Effect, halo, pacman etc.. can still be played for years to come why would TW3 be any different?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
For whatever reason I can't bring myself to play single player rpgs anymore. Its like, without competing against and working with other players there is no point.
Originally posted by DMKano Forgot to add - one of the greatest games of all times - whoever said this is on craxk.
Well, that's hyperbole.
But then again what is the greatest game of all time? That's going to be different for everyone and there's not one game I can name that doesn't have issues here and there.
Could this be a contender for game of the year? Absofreakinlutely.
I've run into some glitchy things here or there but as I've mentioned elsewhere this really feels like a labor of love. The combat is much better than the last two. I actually like the combat in this one. but it's straight forward. dodge, move aside, block, attack lightly or heavily. That pretty much works for me. On top of that being the use of the magic and things like bombs.
oh come now we all know what some of the "greatest games of all time are"
Tetris
PacMan
Half Life
Doom
Quake
StarCraft
Halo
Mass Effect 2
Diablo
etc...
Monumental games that have earned their place and withstood the test of time
To put a newly released game in this list is just silly, there are many great games out there but to be worthy of "greateast game of all time" title is way premature at this point.
It's a sure sign you're getting old when you say that all the best stuff happened a long time ago
haha - well that's not the best stuff that happened - those are some of the greatest video games of all time list - again one of the important aspects of "best of all time list" is that a video game remains good for many years to come.
Do you think many people will be playing W3 for years to come?
i doubt it.
IF Mass Effect, halo, pacman etc.. can still be played for years to come why would TW3 be any different?
what does TW3 adds to the table to be remembered? Witcher 3 is epic without a doubt but it is not very unique. if it is the open world, Bethesda or Rockstar will be remembered for that even more. if it is choices and consequences, Bioware will be remembered for it. if it is the fantasy setting there are lots of other examples before it. character development? please be honest with yourselves. no development happened in Witcher Trilogy. Whatever happened in the books, CDPR left it like that. maybe only Dandelion had development and not in the course of 3 games. TW3 is just a mix of all the good things we already seen. just like how Witcher universe is just a mix of all the cliche fantasy things, vampires, werewolfs, elves and dwarfs, Dragons, witches etc. many stories only have some of these cliches combined, not all of them. CDPR improved the writing thanks to adding Ciri from the books, they improved the story, lots of varieties and attention to details but nothing really unique
the only thing that come close to being unique to witcher 3 is having an epic weather system or having highly detailed side quests that in the end are categorized into limited groups. (gwent,races,contracts, fistfights, loyalty quests, other side quests)
i love Witcher 2 more because it had more focus on politics. something that almost all games don't focus on. it made it unique. in Witcher 3, they improved the emotional weight of the story a lot, but sacrificed the political aspect of it. the only important political stuff that happens in Witcher 3, are left overs of Witcher 2 and at the end, it felt like they just rewind all that happened...(they did to some extent at least). to me Witcher 2 is the closest game to a Game of Thrones Experience. Witcher 3 however is close to a Lord of The Rings experience (not considering nudity and gore) which is fine but i already have other games to satisfy the needs for that. (as for Witcher 1 it had a braveheart feeling to it but i don't love Witcher 1 to be honest it is a flawed gem)
a legendary game, is something that influence other epic games, something that results in huge changes in the industry. for example games like Half-Life or Warcraft directly and indirectly changed the industry. does that mean you should only follow the industry changes to feel if a game deserves to be legendary? no. different games results in different experiences for different people. this is where opinions and their variations comes in but usually the common opinion of experts, are in favor for those games that in fact does leave a good mark in the industry. otherwise whatever games that defines your childhood, youth or any period of your life, based on your experience, can be legendary, but only for you.
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
I'm loving this game. Fantastic graphics, running all but two settings on Ultra (the other two are on High) and this game glides along with nary a hiccup, despite my rig still sporting a 2 year old HD7990 and 8GB of ram, SSD really helps! Oh, and the nVidia hairworks is turned off since I run the AMD card. But I don't miss it, even with it off the hair looks better than any game I've played.
The world really feels like a living, breathing entity and few games have done this so well. The combat is excellent, fast-paced but requiring strategy, different strategies for different foes. Few games have given such weight to a war-torn land as this one has... the horror and hardship of war is palpable. Skyrim was previously my all-time favorite RPG, but has been solidly dethroned by Witcher 3. I'm calling for GotY honors. YMMV.
I'm loving this game. Fantastic graphics, running all but two settings on Ultra (the other two are on High) and this game glides along with nary a hiccup, despite my rig still sporting a 2 year old HD7990 and 8GB of ram, SSD really helps! Oh, and the nVidia hairworks is turned off since I run the AMD card. But I don't miss it, even with it off the hair looks better than any game I've played.
The world really feels like a living, breathing entity and few games have done this so well. The combat is excellent, fast-paced but requiring strategy, different strategies for different foes. Few games have given such weight to a war-torn land as this one has... the horror and hardship of war is palpable. Skyrim was previously my all-time favorite RPG, but has been solidly dethroned by Witcher 3. I'm calling for GotY honors. YMMV.
there is a way for AMD users to use hairwork with less frame lost. here is the article from amd's site:
SKYRIM WAS the best rpg ( heavily modded) I ever played
THE WITCHER 3: WILD HUNT is flat out better in almost every way...no if and or but's
This game is the magic I have been missing in game playing for sooooooo long.
I'm going slow.....exploring every area to make this last as long as possible
(I'm an mmog player who has found another way to game and have fun)
Sorry I disagree on many levels, starting with the beginning. A true rpg (imho) allows you to create "your" own character, not play something predetermined by the developers. Right now there are thousands of Geralts being played and this to me is a flawed desgin. Don't get me wrong at all, the game is good, but it is nothing like Skyrim where it allows your imagination to go unchallenged. The ability to mod a game is endless, and currently Skyrim rules supreme in that area.
I don't really agree with that.
A true role play game should allow a person to make decisions based upon what is available and based off what the world gives them.
Taking the role of Geralt just gives a "spine" to the character and it's up to the player to add the flavor.
I mean, do you think every actor out there says "oh, I can't play hamlet becuase it's been done thousands of times"? No. They put their spin on it.
There is this idea (at least from what I'm seeing) that "role playrers" shoudl be able to do whatever the heck they want. And while I'm all for that there is something to be said about being given a situation, backstory, character and then saying "ok, now it's up to you ... GO!"
Not every improv play or performance is a free for all with no structure. I've attended many where the story was plotted out but it was up to the actors to get to the plot points in their way.
I see no difference in the Witcher series or any game where you are given a character but get to play him or her the way you want.
Well I was comparing the two games. I agree that The Witcher is an rpg, but Skyrim has a better foundation for it (imo). I disagree with your last sentence though. /shrug
Well, let's put it this way, from what I can see in the Witcher you can actually make decisions that have different outcomes. There's really not a lot of that in any Elder Scrolls game.
Keep in mind I've played Morrowind and Oblivion for over 2 years each and I'm still playing skyrim. And modding it. I'm a huge fan.
What the elder scrolls games allow is for a sort of "canvas" which allows for one's imagination to run freely. because there aren't a lot of strictures put on your character you can sort of "roam around" and do what you want.
In the witcher you can "act" as you want. You can play him as a bastard or a saint. You can do that in the elder scrolls games.
You can do that in Baldur's gate.
The only difference is that you take up the mantle of a specific person. How you play him is up to you, given the limitations of the game design but that can be said of any game as there's only so much time and money to create these things.
Well, like I said in my first post above where I was comparing the two, Skyrim is as you know moddable which allows way more freedom. The Civil War in Skyrim allows many decisions with many outcomes and there are countless mods that allow this as well. Skyrim is virtually a game without end and the replayability because of choices of races and classes is much better than what the Witcher has to offer.
Imagine if an mmorpg was released with one character for thousands of people to play. WoW with 7 million Geralts! Sorry, I know it is extreme, but my main point is I want to create my own Character as an extension of myself, not what Blizzard would have picked.
-The WITCHER 3 is moddable and there are already mods out for it.You might want to visit NEXUS( a mod kit has been promised to be available shortly from CD red but modders have already jumped in)
-THE WITCHER 3 is very replayable....because you can spec your character so many different ways. For a magic/alchemy spec.....mele/sword spec.
Lastly please note the company has just announced they will be agressively supporting the game for the next two years. Expansions....patches...fixes...dlc etc. THE WITCHER 3 will continue to be enhanced.
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In honesty I'm not one of those people who think Skryim is superior "modded' over "unmodded". I just think it's different.
Having said that, there are mods that definitely shore up some of Skyrim's shortcomings. But that's going to be an eye of the beholder thing.
I will give you the idea that skyrim has more replayability. Mods or no mods. At least from my time in the Witcher series. Then again, I've only just started Witcher 3 so who knows. I do doubt that I will be playing it for years like an elder scrolls game.
As far as a WoW with millions of Geralts? While I understand not having the same looking character in an mmo, we are talking about a single player game. It doesn't matter that there are millions of geralts. What matters is that you play the character how you think the character should be played.
I get wanting to play "your own character". But a game that has a story that revolves around a specific person is just that. It doesn't make it any less of a role playing game it just means that you are stepping into the boots of a central character and playing him or her your way.
Having said that, one would have to be invested in that character. But that's like any actor in a part. You want to bring that person to life in your own way.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I game on a ps 4 and even though witcher looks good I will be getting ESO instead. ESO has way more replay value and I like the idea of making my own class and race. Once you beat the witcher its pretty much over. If you want to play it again you have to be the same character and class. To me that is really boring.
I will get the witcher some day when its really cheap.
I have about 10 hours into the game now. The game is a masterpiece.
I've read a lot of crap about console port etc. etc. When it comes to graphics and 1080P you will see less and less differences between new generation consoles and PC's. A couple weeks ago I bought myself a nice Acer 2k 144hz g-sync ips monitor and all I can say is I can't go back to 1080P anymore, the difference is black and white.
W3 looks stunning in 2K. All the talk about downgraded graphics is pure unadulterated Internet bull feces.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
16 hours exceptional good game after tutorial map you get a HUGE world full quests wonders and action biggest city is almost as big as tutorial map lol.
Smooth as hell i have in 16 hours no crash freeze stutter tearing or any bug or problems.
Avarage 45 fps 2560x1440p Ultra no hair works on.
AMD 290X
AWESOME GAME NOW WE NEED MODS and its 10/10
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
@William Murphy -
Depending on your motherboard bus speeds/ Northbridge, etc... You wont notice that much difference in fps - playing an RPG - between an i5 and i7 when you have a GPU like the GTX 980 - especially when the game is optimized well for GPUs (like CD Projekt Red always has delivered.) Also your SSD will not improve FPS, only loading data into cache... once you load your RAM and VRAM; it draws cache from there... your SSD will truthfully only affect load times for entering new areas, or loading CGI scenes, saving game data, etc....
Also remember; there will be tons of mods for this game just like 'The Witcher's of the past and games like 'Skyrim', which will offer increased graphics settings and capabilities very soon.
Loving the game for most part but myself (using controller as found Keyboard binds made game unplayable) and others (online friends) all complain about the movement in and out of combat.
For keyboards the complaint is its a 4 direction key movement rather then having 8 directions that has become standard in gaming today.
For controllers you seem to have to spend allot of time running around items in some situations.
Combat wise I got to admit I preferred The Witcher 2 combat over this version. Was just smoother over all and the leveling up in the witcher 2 was far more interesting for my money then how we doing it in TW3.
Plus I find the horse kinda useless.
You can run on foot at a pretty fast pace and that way you not constantly having to get off horse to interact with herbs and signposts and NPCs
?Graphically the game looks amazing for the world
Character model wise it has that EQ2 shiny skin issue that imo detracts from the over all experience (but thats a ultra minor complaint)
So far I think The Witcher 2 might have been just a bit better then The Witcher 3 as it was more focused on the story line (which I prefer honestly).
But still far better then the other stuff out there right now!
The sad thing is that Witcher 3, a console-bred single-player game, is actually a far better RPG than any current MMORPG.
I haven't been playing it, just watching it streamed by people playing it on console or on PC. No question the PC version looks a lot better on the streams I've watched. I'm tempted to buy it - but then see its awkward targeting, problems with the game doing things the player didn't want (like putting away a sword while still in a fight), and the business about going into the menu/backpack to pull out a potion or whatever to use in a fight.
And I've read that the game has issues being controlled with a mouse and keyboard. Like, not "a controller is better" type issues, but "the game lags using a mouse and keyboard." WTF?
Have played: Everquest, Asheron's Call, Horizons, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall
IF Mass Effect, halo, pacman etc.. can still be played for years to come why would TW3 be any different?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
55 HOURS later still love the game lvl18 im not in a hurry.
Best spent 50 bucks in years.
Play it with K/M and AMD 290X no problem at all sinds launch day top notch smooth game.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
For whatever reason I can't bring myself to play single player rpgs anymore. Its like, without competing against and working with other players there is no point.
Game does look cool though
the controls sux. the game rocks. the gameplay is more casual though so the combat is easier.
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
i love Witcher 2 more because it had more focus on politics. something that almost all games don't focus on. it made it unique. in Witcher 3, they improved the emotional weight of the story a lot, but sacrificed the political aspect of it. the only important political stuff that happens in Witcher 3, are left overs of Witcher 2 and at the end, it felt like they just rewind all that happened...(they did to some extent at least). to me Witcher 2 is the closest game to a Game of Thrones Experience. Witcher 3 however is close to a Lord of The Rings experience (not considering nudity and gore) which is fine but i already have other games to satisfy the needs for that. (as for Witcher 1 it had a braveheart feeling to it but i don't love Witcher 1 to be honest it is a flawed gem)
a legendary game, is something that influence other epic games, something that results in huge changes in the industry. for example games like Half-Life or Warcraft directly and indirectly changed the industry. does that mean you should only follow the industry changes to feel if a game deserves to be legendary? no. different games results in different experiences for different people. this is where opinions and their variations comes in but usually the common opinion of experts, are in favor for those games that in fact does leave a good mark in the industry. otherwise whatever games that defines your childhood, youth or any period of your life, based on your experience, can be legendary, but only for you.
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
I'm loving this game. Fantastic graphics, running all but two settings on Ultra (the other two are on High) and this game glides along with nary a hiccup, despite my rig still sporting a 2 year old HD7990 and 8GB of ram, SSD really helps! Oh, and the nVidia hairworks is turned off since I run the AMD card. But I don't miss it, even with it off the hair looks better than any game I've played.
The world really feels like a living, breathing entity and few games have done this so well. The combat is excellent, fast-paced but requiring strategy, different strategies for different foes. Few games have given such weight to a war-torn land as this one has... the horror and hardship of war is palpable. Skyrim was previously my all-time favorite RPG, but has been solidly dethroned by Witcher 3. I'm calling for GotY honors. YMMV.
there is a way for AMD users to use hairwork with less frame lost. here is the article from amd's site:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Optimizing-The-Witcher-3.aspx
plus AMD released driver for Witcher 3 optimization (plus Project Cars)
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
-The WITCHER 3 is moddable and there are already mods out for it.You might want to visit NEXUS( a mod kit has been promised to be available shortly from CD red but modders have already jumped in)
-THE WITCHER 3 is very replayable....because you can spec your character so many different ways. For a magic/alchemy spec.....mele/sword spec.
Lastly please note the company has just announced they will be agressively supporting the game for the next two years. Expansions....patches...fixes...dlc etc. THE WITCHER 3 will continue to be enhanced.