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Rift PVP, Forums, and Moderation
I have seen more threads deleted and forum bans of late than I can count ... pretty innocuous threads like
@ Brasse - basically welcoming the new CM and asking if we could get feedback on some PVP related issues, thread is up for a week, no answer - yet the devs have tons of time to comment on wardrobes, IA's, and all manner of fairly benign junk like a npc vendor missing in a city and a new player making a thread to say "hi" - Eventually thread is deleted OP banned for a few days for "discussing moderation" rubbish
I tell you what if you are looking for a game and have even the slightest desire to PVP Rift is not it. Stay where you are until CU releases.
The heavy handed gestapo like moderation over there is insane. Its like you either need to suck up in every thread or BAM banstick.
Whatever - lots of games on the market but this is just fair warning to anyone considering the game. DONT
If you like to raid - great game
If you like to play dress up - great game
If you like to PVP or are a Casual Player - lousy game
Positive customer experience people tell 3 others, negative customer experience people tell 10 others, marketing 101 ... tell you what I am going to make it a point to discourage new players from Rift in response to the toxic adversarial stance Trion has taken against the PVP playerbase.
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At one point in history (i can't remember exactly how many years ago this were but) the Rift dev team actually did care about PvP, and very much so! It were around the release of the game and within 12 months after that. I played together with a RL friend and we had a real blast both in World PvP and battlegrounds/scenario style of play. Classes were far from balanced, but hey we didn't care much it was a new game to break off from that old WoW cliche, and frankly we enjoyed it
But as of late, i used to play semi actively doing casual PvP with a small guild of great players constantly dominating every battleground we played, sure it were decent frun in 10vs10 scenarios but the addition of conquest was a big joke and probably still is, i quit playing the game before the latest expansion and i did occasionally log in to see if they "fixed" getting good experience leveling through PvP... But no, hasn't been "fixed" or added yet. I am by no means interested in Rift PvE and that what is left of what i used to love about Rift PvP is by now long gone. Sadly. It had the potential to be a decent PvP game after all, and while the controls are not vastly different from World of Warcraft the classes and builds are which makes the game so much more interesting when it comes to a PvP perspective. They just wasted all that potential on slaying dragons and what not.
Conquest PvP in Rift is all about Ranged DPS and who can muster the most amount of good healers in their raids, if your a melee you will either die from all the lag because your PC is not NASA quality (poorly optimzed engine to hold large scale PvP, so need to make up for it with MASSIVE CPU power sadly...) or you die from getting focused in the blink of a global, no defensive cooldowns whatsoever will save you. There were times though when i could get 4 dedicated healers on just my character for a frontline push that i could live for about 5-7 seconds to do some Bladedancing with my Rogue, but once the cooldowns fell off i were instant dead, no matter how fun it might have been it was not near effective to do a push as it is to play ANY of the ranged builds with Rogue. And everyone knows how fun it is to play a rangefest, which in most cases end up in a long tedious mid-battle that never ends because as soon as u take some damage u retreat back to the healers to get topped off, and if someone gets the idea to push they instantly die (unless carefully organized through voice comms, but in such cases the "premades" stomp everything no matter because elitism etc.. so dont really need voice comms)
I am patiently waiting for Camelot Unchained ever since Warhammer Online died, and i have always been the RvR oriented type of player. RvR is the real warfare
Another rash of deleted threads today 4/23 in general and pvp forums, and another series of threads that will be deleted as soon as the mods wake up no doubt.
So how much have you pissed of the player base when all they do is come rage on the forums, and then instead of maybe making a few changes to keep the customers happy you break out the ban sticks to hide the problems?
Let me reiterate if you are considering RIFT - Don't !
Expect this thread to get locked soon as well.
Barely any criticism towards Trion is tolerated on these forums.
I have to agree here, if you like Rift and want to play it (not a bad game but no skill tab targetting grinder is not exactly my cup of tea though I have to admit they have awesome housing system) stay out of the forums.
It is not just PvP players but casuals, who "dont know their place" and are not happy to be treated as a second class citizens being disrespected and spit on by self proclaimed raiding elite, who often get banned for little to nothing. The privileged special raiding snowflakes have every right to dis, sneer and call out whoever they want without any penalty though.
No wonder Rift community is vile when devs themselves and especially forum moderators (namely Ocho) support such behavior.
Too bad for the game with a potential to be maintained by arrogant and biased people like that. One game that will not see a cent of my money ever again and I recommend to everyone to rethink before they spend on it - people who run Rift do not deserve to be paid by those they so obviously despise. Let them live on their precious raiding crowd.
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
Trion started out great but ended up being one of the worst MMO companies out there.
Rift pvp was fun for a long time, always on the edge of being awesome if the devs only put in a little more effort. Ultimately they made some stupid decisions, as Trion typically does, and pvp died a horrible death.
Those forums have been bad for a long time. I remember even seeing the pvp head developer coming on the forums patronizing and ridiculing critical players, who does that? I was perma-banned also after mods being selective with their fanboys, who would flame and troll you into responses then report you. They are still around, meanwhile everyone else gets banned.
Terrible service, terrible forum moderation, and eventually what all become terrible games. I will not install Glyph on my pc ever again after what they did to Rift and their ridiculously absurd handling of Archeage.
PvP is not died, just not the same as it was befor, if they made pvp better, still turn out the same just keeping more the ego players around. The forums was ego trip around p2p around SL even untill now. But Trions not the worst mmo compaies there not best as well, but not sure how you got perma-banned you must did something out of line, or they did a misteak, even way I would not be to happy even way, even if was there or my misteak.
Service was 40 mins wait on live chat, no problem with there service there unless waiting on a e-mail thats terrible.
Glyph like battlenet not much new with out the chat people ingame from other games. Only problem i have with Glyph that comes with steam, if one try to play rift off of steam, so I stop playing it off of steam was no need for it anymore.
Even way pvp in rift can be touchy players want to kill 10 people but if happen to them then is not fair, balance it is a problem not that there are op class, is that to many souls are nerf to much like warlord was from the pvp community on complaining way to much balance that but didn't turn out to well, end up that we lost old time warrior over that nerf.
If you was on the EU servers is more deserted then NA pretty sure of that don't mean there no one there people, NA have tons more people player, I can go out right now find 100 other people doing stuff, there not in town siting around there out there:)
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Yeah agree, I found out that people point out there right type of greed there doing, but there are people out there that lie about what type of greed there doing as well.
Just ignoring them instead of banning people would have kept a lot more customers. I was on the verge of throwing down the 300 dollars to get the raid 1 gear. Their mods cost them some money. Who knows how many other players they banned that were also buying stuff from the store. I also was supporting them by making YouTube vids. I have since taken down all my vids about rift.
I could go on and on about how abusive the trion mods are but i don't want to drag the mmorpg mods in to it. This will be my last post on this subject.
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
So if NA servers seem to be doing fine (I wonder how long though) everything is peaches?
The visible decline of population on EU servers is not something to sneer at, it affects the game as whole especially since Trion holds both (not like Tera and Gameforge/Enmasse). And the situation on EU is alarming. Economy is completely destroyed, crafters thrown out of the whack, nothing sells anymore and REX went up over 2k in very short time. You cannot completely disregard casuals and crafters and think if you just ban from the forums those who voice reasonable complaints everything will be fine and dandy. Sweeping under the carpet is not going to fool many, people are not stupid.
For me forums reflect the state of the game. Having an arrogant bully, who acts like the forum is his own backyard he can admit or throw people out of at will by his personal preferences, for a moderator, is hurting the game. When people leave because they were abused on the forum and look for another game, in most cases their friends follow along and threads like this one here serve as a warning to potential new players.
I really like some of the Devs, namely Ginger and Morticus are really nice, and I am sorry if I contribute to their eventual loss of income, but I cannot bear with Ocho and his kind, they should be removed from the forum if Trion has any sense of business.