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Help with finding a reasonable graphic card and maybe other stuff

DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
Hi all, I'm not really computer savvy and I was wondering if anyone could help me pick a graphic card for my 2 year old pc. Some of the specs are: Processor: Intel Core i7-3770 (Ivy Bridge) (77W) 3.4 GHz  | Memory: 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 (runs at PC3-10600 with Sandy Bridge processors) | Graphics: GeForce GT 630 (2 GB) (Default). I'll also provide a link to my pc specs incase I forgot something: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03697153. Again, I'm not really tech savvy and was just hoping I could get a graphics card to up my gaming performance (or maybe I need other upgrades, any suggestions are welcomed). Current games I play right now are FFXIV:ARR and Tera. Thanks in advance for the advice.

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  • FauztFauzt Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Biggest first question, what's your budget?
  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130

     Graphics: GeForce GT 630 (2 GB) (Default)
    Current games I play right now are FFXIV:ARR and Tera.

    I play FFXIV on a R7 260X 2GB  @ 1080P and it works fine.

    Does it lag for you?

  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    Originally posted by Fauzt
    Biggest first question, what's your budget?

    I was thinking no more than 200$ for the graphic card atm. Just incase I needed other upgrades as well.

  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    Originally posted by Kiyoris

     Graphics: GeForce GT 630 (2 GB) (Default)
    Current games I play right now are FFXIV:ARR and Tera.

    I play FFXIV on a R7 260X 2GB  @ 1080P and it works fine.

    Does it lag for you?

    Well during the free log in they had back in April I think it was, I was running the game fine and could do stuff like Odin and S ranks (which usually have quite a few people there) with no lag. Granted my settings were low, but still ran smoothly. However, I returned recently and have been getting consistent stuttering and really low fps sometimes hitting 5 fps during large scale fights which used to give me no lag before. So, I'm just trying to think of what could've caused the change over that 1-2 months since I haven't touched my settings at all. But my card was fell below recommended settings so I was thinking of upgrading it anyway if all my other specs are ok.

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591

    I would look at a gtx960 for the $200 price range. A gtx 970 would give you the biggest bang for the buck but it's about $350

     

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_960_g1_gaming_4gb_review,22.html

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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    Originally posted by laserit

    I would look at a gtx960 for the $200 price range. A gtx 970 would give you the biggest bang for the buck but it's about $350

     

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_960_g1_gaming_4gb_review,22.html

    Thanks for the suggestion, where would you recommend to buy one? Amazon? Newegg?

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Originally posted by Dattelis
    Originally posted by laserit

    I would look at a gtx960 for the $200 price range. A gtx 970 would give you the biggest bang for the buck but it's about $350

     

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_960_g1_gaming_4gb_review,22.html

    Thanks for the suggestion, where would you recommend to buy one? Amazon? Newegg?

    I'm in Canada and personally buy everything from NCIX.com

     

    Prices are always competative and they're local for me.

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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675

    After looking on newegg, I think I found two that might fit within my budget.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127843&cm_re=gtx-_-14-127-844-_-Product

    or

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127860&cm_re=gtx-_-14-127-844-_-Product

    The second comes with batman (which I kind of take or leave) and is 40$ more but I'm wondering if the 4GB is that much more than the 2GB in the first one. Let me know what you all think.

  • TurtleDGr8TurtleDGr8 Member Posts: 58
    Originally posted by Dattelis

    After looking on newegg, I think I found two that might fit within my budget.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127843&cm_re=gtx-_-14-127-844-_-Product

    or

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127860&cm_re=gtx-_-14-127-844-_-Product

    The second comes with batman (which I kind of take or leave) and is 40$ more but I'm wondering if the 4GB is that much more than the 2GB in the first one. Let me know what you all think.

     

    I think the amount of gpu memory actually used (if there is an unlimited amount available) is about 3GB or so for high end, max settings games.  $40 for an additional 2GB doesn't sound like a bad deal.  It's debatable whether it will make a difference to you in your particular games, but it probably won't hurt.

     

  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    Lots of times when you upgrade your Video card you have to get a new power supply unit. Make sure you read the power consumption requirements before you buy anything. People tend to overlook this a lot.
     
  • DocBrodyDocBrody Member UncommonPosts: 1,926

    just get 2 x nvidia GTX 980TI in SLI

    that should be sufficient for all 2015 games

  • HrimnirHrimnir Member RarePosts: 2,415
    Absolutely get the 4gb one.  I made that mistake when i bought my 760's only getting 2gb.

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507

    Before you rush off to buy something, it's very important that you check on your power delivery and airflow.  If you buy a new card that your rig can't otherwise handle and promptly fry it, it will be your own fault for not checking.

    For power delivery, look at the power supply and get as much information on it as you can.  The exact brand name and model is a start, but whatever specs you can find are good, too.

    For airflow, how many case fans are there, how big are they (80 mm and 120 mm are the most common sizes), where are they, and do they blow air in or out of the case?

    Companies like HP never fail to come up with creatively odd things in their specifications.  Today's highlight is:

    "Must select one of the following options:

    • GeForce GT 630 (2 GB)
    • GeForce GTX 680 (2 GB)"

    So basically, to buy that computer, your choice was Nvidia's top of the line, or else some low end card that was slower than integrated graphics.  But nothing in between.

    If the rest of the rig was built around being able to handle a GTX 680, you'll be fine.  But I'm somewhat skeptical that they'd use the same case and power supply regardless of which video card you get.

  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    Based on the info I could find on my pc (linked from earlier: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03697153) it has a 600W power output and the graphic cards I was looking at recommend 400W. I'm not exactly tech savvy as I mentioned but do you all think the current supply should be ok or should I upgrade it to be safe? I mainly want this pc to tie me over for a few months then I can probably get a better one by then, but Heavensward is coming up so I just want to play it reasonably until then.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507
    Originally posted by Dattelis
    Based on the info I could find on my pc (linked from earlier: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03697153) it has a 600W power output and the graphic cards I was looking at recommend 400W. I'm not exactly tech savvy as I mentioned but do you all think the current supply should be ok or should I upgrade it to be safe? I mainly want this pc to tie me over for a few months then I can probably get a better one by then, but Heavensward is coming up so I just want to play it reasonably until then.

    Open up the case and look at the power supply.  Don't just try to find documentation online.  Find the exact brand name and model, and record as many specs as you can.  Most power supplies will have a table of how many amps they can deliver on which rails; transcribe that here as best as you can.

    If you don't do that, then you're blindly guessing as to what your power supply can handle.  Asking someone else to blindly guess for you isn't meaningfully different.

    And don't sink a bunch of money into a computer that you're going to replace in a few months, anyway.

  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by Dattelis
    Based on the info I could find on my pc (linked from earlier: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03697153) it has a 600W power output and the graphic cards I was looking at recommend 400W. I'm not exactly tech savvy as I mentioned but do you all think the current supply should be ok or should I upgrade it to be safe? I mainly want this pc to tie me over for a few months then I can probably get a better one by then, but Heavensward is coming up so I just want to play it reasonably until then.

    Open up the case and look at the power supply.  Don't just try to find documentation online.  Find the exact brand name and model, and record as many specs as you can.  Most power supplies will have a table of how many amps they can deliver on which rails; transcribe that here as best as you can.

    If you don't do that, then you're blindly guessing as to what your power supply can handle.  Asking someone else to blindly guess for you isn't meaningfully different.

    And don't sink a bunch of money into a computer that you're going to replace in a few months, anyway.

    I wholeheartedly agree with you Quiz. Excellent advice good job :)

     
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