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Nope... I still think this game sucks.
tixylix
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Just played it again on the PS4 after turning my PC copy into a PS4 one... simply just because my friend got it for the console and no one I know plays it on PC. Straight away he hated it, said it's crap compared to Skyrim and stopped playing, I carried on for a bit on another character I had left over from the PC and I still don't get it.
I just don't get any sense of being in a world, I feel like I'm on a linear path, like I'm on a ride and I just go from quest hub to quest hub. When WoW came out it didn't feel like what it does today, it didn't feel like going from hub to hub, the quests felt naturally placed in the world and I could believe it. I loved exploring that world, but now Blizzard have since ruined it and killed off the world.
The whole "world" feels fake, like it is there for my amusement and I just cannot buy it. I loved Skyrim's world, it felt so rich, it felt open and like I could go anywhere and do anything. TESO however just feels like I have my hand held throughout a single linear path.
The quests are so boring as well, just typical "go here and kill 10 of these" or "inspect 4 of these" or "talk to this person" etc etc. I just don't get how we had Skyrim and Oblivion and Morrowind, games that felt like the MMO I wanted, some how they stripped all that out and put the crap stuff of MMOs in. The combat sucks as well, TES games never had great combat, but this just feels weird and unresponsive. Everything feels cheap the engine just feels like second rate crap, you can tell it was made by the B team.
No idea why you'd play this over Skyrim, you end up playing TESO solo and tbh Skyrim is a better solo MMO than this.
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*cough* Bullsh*t.
Quest hub to quest hub? Puh-leeese. There aren't any hubs. You literally have to go off the beaten path to find quests. You can't even complete a zone without bush-wacking to every corner and in between (as well as delving into dungeons) to find all the quests.
Kill 10 of this? Gather 5 of that? You're kidding me. ESO has some of the most involved, adult oriented, and interesting quest design and dialogue that I've seen in the 16 years I've been playing online games.
Anyone who plays the game knows that you are blowing smoke up the reader's arses. Anyone. Then again, you think WoW has superior quest design, so go figure.
OP: Why do you play the game the way you describe it in your OP, please don't tell you couldn't play it differntly?
I am currently not playing ESO but thankfully I didn't play the game like you when I did play the game (beta-release 6months)
I enjoyed the qeust but since I am a Elder Scrolls fan (aswell fan of many different games) I need my freedom so many game sessions went by without any quest, just exploring, looking for resources, craft, socialize. Yes I got killed allot due to my explorer nature to find myself in +10, +20 level above me area's. Which to me makes it even more fun to explore and see what lay's ahead in my adventure once I reach those level's to make impact.
But regardless you feel the game sucks normaly that's okay but I just wonder why you played the game the way you explained.
You have been hating on this game since last year so why exactly did you just pay for it on PS4? are you incapable of understanding your own tastes in a game? You have obviously not played the game properly (or tried to locust your way through it) since your description of the questing and combat bear little relation to the game (where exactly are the 'hubs' lol). Your problem i suspect is that you are another one of these players that has grown bored of genre and refuses to admit it to yourself.
Clue OP, when you look on decade old games with envy and hate new games, reflect on what is going on with your own tastes.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
It's welcome back troll week around here.
Only someone who has never played the game would believe the bullshit in the OP... matter of fact, I doubt the OP has played it at all. Just made up his story to troll.
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The console version seems to be (so far) getting better results than the PC version. Either they actually improved the game before releasing it, or the game is a better fit for console players.
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Wait a minute. Tamriel Unlimited is getting the higher marks in general. Seems like people are much happier with that version, and the PC version gets higher marks than the console version. Perhaps they've improved the game after all. :-)
Since they released ESO on consoles I was hoping for cross-platform play, but again Micro$hit and Slowny can't possibly work a deal for cross-platform multiplayer, taking an already smallish playerbase and dividing it further.
FFXIV has shown that cross-platform PVE/PVP works. The game wouldn't be nearly as successful if it was PC or PS3/4 only, but it could be more successful if it was available for Xbox 360/One as well.
I feel like you're trolling. I don't like ESO AT ALL, but not for ANY of the reasons you mentioned. In fact those are all points I would say are great about the game.
That said, console release will not change the terribad combat/classes/skills.
And the moral of the story, kids, is that MMMO's are not very fun without friends.
So bring a friend or make some.
OP's review was a bit heavy handed in some areas, but this sentence rang true for me. They could have found a better way to create character progression. This linear system/veteran ranks was just lazy.
Why not have the world change according to what level you are? If you zone into Black Marsh as a level 12, make everything in the zone level 12. If you want to quest in High Rock at a level 30? Fine everything in that zone is now level 30. They could have done this with the megaserver and it's a simple algorithm to adjust difficulty. Other games have done it such as Guild Wars 2 and Rift.
Make it so that you can join random factions, guilds, become a bad guy, bounty hunter etc... it's what all Elder Scrolls fans actually wanted, the only one who didn't want this was Matt Firor.
The way it stands now, you can't quest in an area that is too high level for you, and you have absolutely no reason to go back to old areas. The only zone worth exploring is the one you are currently locked into + Cyrodil.
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
Originally posted by JDis25
VR is the very epitome of lazy. At least with more levels you're likely to experience new things.....
Quest hub to quest hub? Every single game is like that.... ESO just makes it fun....
Typical quests? Sure.... That's ... Ahm.... Whaaaaa? Ahm.... Apart from TSW, he's the runner up on best questing and voice acting and every other aspects of questing as far as it goes....
As someone already said, i also do not play ESO atm, since i like to do a lil rotation between the games i like to keep it fresh (yeah i know, weird XD), but still I cannot agree with ur post OP... If u blamed the combat or the classes... Meh, could understand. Even the grouping which is sometimes "awkward" and people dont talk at all (like most other mmo's) ok... But attacking the world of Tamriel and its questing? Dunno mate, they actually seem to be the strong points on ESO LOOOOL
But well, tastes are tastes :P
eso is one of the least linear questing games out there
as far as op other reasons to each how own theres a game out there for eveybody
Don't know what OP played but you are indeed very right. His comments are completely off. There are things wrong about ESO but not the things he mentioned.
The thing with ESO is that for an MMO the questing is impressive. However, this feeling passes quickly after reaching 50 for the first time. And there is nothing to pick up the slack. Dungeons are annoyingly difficult to group for, Trials are fun but you have to grind your way through hell to get there, Craglorn content is basically more of the same, Cyrodil is fun for awhile and probably ESO's best feature, however PvP is completely unbalanced class or ability-wise and you need to be V14 to compete on equal footing... which again is a grind and a half. and the keep flipping becomes rather dull when you participate in zerg on zerg for hours and hours and have little to show for it.
It just doesn't do the endgame of an MMO correctly imo and all it has is above average questing. but the questing isn't enough to carry it imo, and even as it stands now the questing/exploration falls behind other ES titles.
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
There are a lot of quests you won't see if you're not exploring and even xp you won't get without conversations with the locals. Not to mention being able to spend time just going out exploring and marking shrines and stuff.
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I agree about the hitting fifty.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
You are absolutely correct. That doesn't make it a bad game when compared to other MMO's, just that coming to the game and expecting an Elder Scrolls experience is sheer disappointment.
Nothing about the game feels like an elder scrolls game to me in any way. There is no real exploration, the combat is nothing at all like elder scrolls, skill ups, nothing.
The game itself doesn't suck, but when compared to elder scrolls games then I guess it does. The trick to having fun playing it is to somehow not do that.
Nailed it !!!
They would have been better off using a new ip and letting the game build up rather than fall down. I think if they would have named it "The Youthful Rolls of Paper - Online Unlimited" then people wouldn't have such high expectations.
Quite certain that ESO is an average game, with average questing, average immersion, and below-average combat.
I'll wait for the "real" Elder Scrolls 6 on XB 1, thanks very much!
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