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Microsoft will sell Windows 10 USB sticks. Leaked images.

KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
in Hardware

http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/06/24/microsoft-to-supply-windows-10-on-usb-stick-for-faster-installation/

German tech site Winfuture.de released an image showing both DVD and USB flash drive versions of Windows 10 stock listings. The OS will of course, be available to download online, and you’ll be able to get hold of an ISO version too so you don’t have to re-download it each time you reinstall Windows. Coupled with the fact you don’t need to install Windows 7 or 8.1 beforehand (you can upgrade them though using Windows update), things are much clearer and haven’t actually changed that much.

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  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130

    My opinion is that this is a really good idea for people with time constraints and some extra cash to spend. Installing will reportedly be much faster, you don't have to first install Windows 7 or 8, and you don't need to use a DVD or even have a DVD player. You also circumvent having to download anything.

    The only downside is it won't be free me thinks, but if it's not too expensive, this would be nice.

  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614
    Originally posted by Kiyoris

    My opinion is that this is a really good idea for people with time constraints and some extra cash to spend. Installing will reportedly be much faster, you don't have to first install Windows 7 or 8, and you don't need to use a DVD or even have a DVD player. You also circumvent having to download anything.

    The only downside is it won't be free me thinks, but if it's not too expensive, this would be nice.

    In the beginning it should be just fine to download, gigabytes should be fetched within a matter of minutes on most decent broadband connections...and if Microsoft provides a good connection.

    But later down the road -as in years- Windows updates and upgrading OS with new installs can take hours lol.

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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,999

    USB sticks are great for installing Windows.

    I once took time, and it took a bit under 9 minutes from boot to get to desktop with clean install of Windows 7 from USB stick.

     
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    It takes me about 2 days to get Windows ISO downloaded over my network connection. These things are a godsend.

  • noncleynoncley Member UncommonPosts: 718
    After the nonsensically self-defeating debacle of Windows 8, having Window 10, however it is delivered, even by morse code punches to the face, will seem like the sweet kiss of a summer breeze.
  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Just keep in mind that USB sticks have a battery that can run out and render it useless.  They are normally good for years but it depends on the quality.  While a USB stick is great for those first installs, you will want to get your hands on an ISO or DVD eventually. 
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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Just keep in mind that USB sticks have a battery that can run out and render it useless.  They are normally good for years but it depends on the quality.  While a USB stick is great for those first installs, you will want to get your hands on an ISO or DVD eventually. 

    No media is foolproof or indestructable. I just want something that gets me over the initial download hump. I can archive ISOs once I have them, but downloading them is a royal pain when you don't have broadband.

    I know, I know - get a better network connection. Those of us in the Rural US don't have many choices though.

  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    Originally posted by Torval
    Originally posted by Ridelynn

    It takes me about 2 days to get Windows ISO downloaded over my network connection. These things are a godsend.

    I hope they won't be too expensive because I want one for each install, assuming they have the license key embedded in the install which would make activation also very convenient. If not then I'll just get one and hassle with the activation.

    The key will probably just be with the documentation, just like DVD. I tend to past the number on my PC with a sticker.

  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,999
    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Just keep in mind that USB sticks have a battery that can run out and render it useless.  They are normally good for years but it depends on the quality.  While a USB stick is great for those first installs, you will want to get your hands on an ISO or DVD eventually. 

    No, they do not have a battery.

    A good quality USB stick can (in theory) store the data for about 50 years if it's stored properly. You should not trust it to actually last that long, but it'll likely last far longer than you'll want to use Windows 10.

     
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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Muke
    Originally posted by Kiyoris My opinion is that this is a really good idea for people with time constraints and some extra cash to spend. Installing will reportedly be much faster, you don't have to first install Windows 7 or 8, and you don't need to use a DVD or even have a DVD player. You also circumvent having to download anything. The only downside is it won't be free me thinks, but if it's not too expensive, this would be nice.
    In the beginning it should be just fine to download, gigabytes should be fetched within a matter of minutes on most decent broadband connections...and if Microsoft provides a good connection. But later down the road -as in years- Windows updates and upgrading OS with new installs can take hours lol.
    Which is why I look forward to a future where the FCC continue to bitch slap ISP's so that they continue to improve our network infrastructure.

    There's also slipstreaming, which has been around for a long time.

    http://lifehacker.com/how-to-slipstream-windows-updates-into-your-installatio-1562956432

    I haven't heard about Windows 10 support, but I'd be surprised if they yanked it.

    Although I like the idea of faster internet better.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Just keep in mind that USB sticks have a battery that can run out and render it useless.  They are normally good for years but it depends on the quality.  While a USB stick is great for those first installs, you will want to get your hands on an ISO or DVD eventually. 

    They last about 7 years. You'll change OS before then. 

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  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    Considering nowadays we have download speeds of 10 MBPS as middle of the road broadband, downloading tens of gygabytes happens in minutes. I can't imagine Windows taking more than 5 min to download unless the windows servers crash to a crawl.

    It's much better to sell USBs than CDs though. Nowadays most computers don't even have a cd/dvd drive. 

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  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Just keep in mind that USB sticks have a battery that can run out and render it useless.  They are normally good for years but it depends on the quality.  While a USB stick is great for those first installs, you will want to get your hands on an ISO or DVD eventually. 

    Keep in mind that a lot of people don't have DVD drives anymore. My new laptop doesn't have one and its a regular sized 15 inch laptop not one of those airs. DVD/CD drives are going the way of the floppy disks. They are not needed anymore.

    Originally posted by Ridelynn

     

    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Just keep in mind that USB sticks have a battery that can run out and render it useless.  They are normally good for years but it depends on the quality.  While a USB stick is great for those first installs, you will want to get your hands on an ISO or DVD eventually. 

     

    No media is foolproof or indestructable. I just want something that gets me over the initial download hump. I can archive ISOs once I have them, but downloading them is a royal pain when you don't have broadband.

    I know, I know - get a better network connection. Those of us in the Rural US don't have many choices though.

    What I don't understand is how people have such horrible internet connections. Nowadays my 4G connection on my phone is insanely fast, I can just share that and download an HD movie in minutes. That's on a phone connection and not a proper home broadband which can download at 100-150mbps.

    Why are there no broadband options in rural areas? That's shocking in this age. But yeah I live in central London so we are well connected ...

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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,999
    Originally posted by fivoroth
    What I don't understand is how people have such horrible internet connections. Nowadays my 4G connection on my phone is insanely fast, I can just share that and download an HD movie in minutes. That's on a phone connection and not a proper home broadband which can download at 100-150mbps.

    Why are there no broadband options in rural areas? That's shocking in this age. But yeah I live in central London so we are well connected ...

    If a city has 5 000 people per square kilometer, they need to build 200 square meters of 4G network per person when they upgrade.

    If a rural area has 5 people per square kilometer, they need to build 200 000 square meters of 4G network per person when they upgrade.

    Why is it surprising that people in rural areas haven't so far built 1 000 times more 4G network than those living in city?

    Rural areas are getting better connections too, but it's a slow progress and those connections will always be a decade or two behind what's offered in cities. That means alternatives to downloading big files from net are still needed.

     
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    Originally posted by Vrika
    Originally posted by fivoroth What I don't understand is how people have such horrible internet connections. Nowadays my 4G connection on my phone is insanely fast, I can just share that and download an HD movie in minutes. That's on a phone connection and not a proper home broadband which can download at 100-150mbps. Why are there no broadband options in rural areas? That's shocking in this age. But yeah I live in central London so we are well connected ...
    If a city has 5 000 people per square kilometer, they need to build 200 square meters of 4G network per person when they upgrade.

    If a rural area has 5 people per square kilometer, they need to build 200 000 square meters of 4G network per person when they upgrade.

    Why is it surprising that people in rural areas haven't so far built 1 000 times more 4G network than those living in city?

    Rural areas are getting better connections too, but it's a slow progress and those connections will always be a decade or two behind what's offered in cities. That means alternatives to downloading big files from net are still needed.

    Also, just because 4G LTE may be available in an area still doesn't make it feasible. I do have 4G LTE in my rural area - it is nice. I get up to 54Mb on it when I use it.

    It also has a strict 2G/month data cap, with very unfriendly overage charges, throttling, etc. So all that speed is absolutely pointless for downloading large files. I guess I could download 1/2 of a Windows ISO in July, then download the other half in August, then download the first wave of security patches in September... so long as I don't use the connection for anything else at all.

    It also has about 300-500ms of latency. That means it sucks for gaming.

    So ... it's fast. But not exactly very useful.

  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,999
    Originally posted by Torval 
    Plus it will be factory installed. No worries about whether I've baked the ISO into the thumb drive properly or if it will work.

    There's a tool for making a bootable USB or DVD from Windows ISO file (at least for Windows 7/8). It's so easy to use that there's no need to worry about how to bake the ISO file into the thumb drive properly.

    http://wudt.codeplex.com/

    There's also official Microsoft service for downloading Windows ISO files (for Windows 7/8) available here: 

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-recovery

    Downloading the file and creating a bootable USB stick out of it is so easy anyone who's able to install Windows should also be able to do it without any trouble. Of course only if you have good enough net connection for downloading and an USB stick with enough space.

     
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    Originally posted by Vrika
    Originally posted by Torval  Plus it will be factory installed. No worries about whether I've baked the ISO into the thumb drive properly or if it will work.
    There's a tool for making a bootable USB or DVD from Windows ISO file (at least for Windows 7/8). It's so easy to use that there's no need to worry about how to bake the ISO file into the thumb drive properly.

    http://wudt.codeplex.com/

    There's also official Microsoft service for downloading Windows ISO files (for Windows 7/8) available here: 

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-recovery

    Downloading the file and creating a bootable USB stick out of it is so easy anyone who's able to install Windows should also be able to do it without any trouble. Of course only if you have good enough net connection for downloading and an USB stick with enough space.

    Great links - thank you

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