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what is better fx 6350& 4gb ram or just a fx 8350

VoreDockVoreDock Member UncommonPosts: 128

what is better i have to get a new cpu after my fx 8320e died after only 5 months so i have a choice of two cps both builds would be $165

a fx 6350 with 4gb of ddr3 added to my system for a total of 14gb of ram 

or a Fx 8350 and no extra ram 

witch is better ? 

both will out perform my old 8320e

 

my video card is a amd hd7770 the 2gb gdr5 rev 2 one with a 1100mhz core

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531

    If adding 4 GB of memory gives you 14 GB, you're doing something seriously wrong.  Your amount of system memory should be a power of two, so typically 4 GB, 8 GB, or 16 GB.  You should have exactly two or four memory modules, all of exactly the same capacity.  Otherwise, you're losing memory bandwidth for no good reason.

    To answer your question more directly, adding memory isn't likely to help you at all.  But that doesn't necessarily mean that an FX-8350 is the way to go.  What else do you have in your system?

  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,999

    What memory modules you have currently? Memory modules work normally dual-channel, meaning that two memory modules transmit  data at the same time, effectively doubling the data transfer speed compared to a single memory module.

    If you don't have an even number of memory modules (2 or 4), your memory can't transmit dual-channel and your system's data transfer speed is only 50% of what it should be.

    Some applications don't need all that data transfer speed to/from RAM and won't be affected at all, but others will be slowed down. You should find out what you need to do to get your system memory to work in dual-channel mode first, and decide about adding RAM only then.

    As long as the end result is at least 8GB of RAM in the system you can even remove some memory modules to get it working dual-channel and the end result will work faster (in most cases) than what a system with 14GB memory would work.

    Ideally RAM modules should all be identical for running in dual-channel mode, different RAMs may cause compatibility problems, but as long as the RAMs are of same size and capable of operating at same speeds they might work together so if you have different RAMs you may try running them dual-channel and it will probably work.

     
  • VoreDockVoreDock Member UncommonPosts: 128
    all my ram is 

    ADATA USA XPG V1.0 OC Series  DDR3 1600MHZ PC3

    a 4gb  , a2gb , and a 4gb in that order for a total of 10 gb right now  i was thinking of adding another 4GB in the last slot 

     

    but i have to get a am3+ cpu either way and my MB is a asus m5a99x evo r2

    my video card is a Asus hd 7770

  • zytinzytin Member UncommonPosts: 202
    Originally posted by VoreDock
    all my ram is 

    ADATA USA XPG V1.0 OC Series  DDR3 1600MHZ PC3

    a 4gb  , a2gb , and a 4gb in that order for a total of 10 gb right now  i was thinking of adding another 4GB in the last slot 

     

    but i have to get a am3+ cpu either way and my MB is a asus m5a99x evo r2

    my video card is a Asus hd 7770

    Um....yeah, your ram seteup is incorrect.  8gb ram is pleanty enough.  If anything, you'd want to just drop the 2gb ram and wait to save up for two more 4gb ram.  You should also make sure that all of your ram sticks are of the same brand/model.  

    As for CPU, from what I've read, an overclocked 8320 is your best bang for buck in performance,  Depending on your budget, the 8350 is around $166, but you're paying about $30 more for only a 5% increase in performance.

     

    As a side note,  If you are going to upgrade, upgrade your CPU before your RAM, and your GPU before your CPU, so long as the GPU you purchase doesn't get bottle necked by your CPU.  Of course, that doesn't apply in this case, since you HAVE to replace your CPU.  If you go for the 8320 and want to OC it, then you'll want to buy a decent fan for your CPU.  

     

  • booniedog96booniedog96 Member UncommonPosts: 289
    Would you consider an FX 6300 and Xfire with another HD7770?  Or just a FX 6300 and save up for a later model GPU like an R9 380?  More memory won't be beneficial unless you are video editing or photoshop with multiple layers.  The FX 6300 OCs like a champ so there is no real need to get a 6350 really.
  • ThebeastttThebeasttt Member RarePosts: 1,130
    The RAM is irrelevant as 99% of systems are not bottlenecked by RAM. Most games don't use 8 cores either so they generally go to waste. Get some decent aftermarket cooling and overclock the 6300FX to 4.5 or so. it will run faster then 8350 and cost much less. If you aren't on a budget(which it sounds like you are) go Intel obviously.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,999

    My suggestion: Remove the 2GB ram, then make sure that the remaining 2x4GB RAMs are slotted to the motherboard so that they'll work in dual-channel mode.

    The decision FX 6350 or FX 8350 depends on how much money you've got, but I'd say that FX 6350 has enough cores and is so much cheaper it's likely better choice. Expect if you overclock, for overclocking both are about equally good choices.

     
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531

    What power supply do you have, what case, and what storage?

    I'm also wondering how the previous processor died, as processors are usually very resilient.  How do you know it's the processor that failed and not the motherboard or something else?  And did you overclock the processor?

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383


    Originally posted by VoreDock
    all my ram is  ADATA USA XPG V1.0 OC Series  DDR3 1600MHZ PC3a 4gb  , a2gb , and a 4gb in that order for a total of 10 gb right now  i was thinking of adding another 4GB in the last slot  but i have to get a am3+ cpu either way and my MB is a asus m5a99x evo r2my video card is a Asus hd 7770

    If you add another 2G, and pair them so you have 2x4 and 2x2, that would work out to get your dual channel access back with 12G of RAM

    Or you could replace the single 2 with another 4, that gets you to 4x4 with 16G of RAM.

    To be honest about it, most people are fine with 8G of RAM though.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383

    And regarding your dead CPU... that is odd, CPUs are usually the heartiest item in a computer, so long as you don't bend any pins when installing them, get thermal paste down in the pins, or overvolt them to ridiculous amounts.

    Also, AMD has a 2-3 year warranty on boxed CPUs. Warranty claim would take a few weeks, but it would also get your 8320 back to you.

  • long123long123 Member Posts: 7
    Good luck & I hope to see some nice userbars!
  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385
    Originally posted by Thebeasttt
    The RAM is irrelevant as 99% of systems are not bottlenecked by RAM. Most games don't use 8 cores either so they generally go to waste. Get some decent aftermarket cooling and overclock the 6300FX to 4.5 or so. it will run faster then 8350 and cost much less. If you aren't on a budget(which it sounds like you are) go Intel obviously.

    I think 99% is overstating things, a lot.  Typical consumer laptops and desktops ship with four to eight GB of RAM.  On the low-end, 4GB is not enough, especially if you're gaming or running a lot of productivity applications.  If your computer ships with 6 GB of RAM, someone is cheating you out of memory bandwidth just to save a few dollars.

    If you're aiming to have a gaming system, yes 8GB is the standard now.  No game really needs that much by itself.

  • petedopetedo Member CommonPosts: 10

    Memory bandwidth, dual channel, is like sequential read/write values for SSD - it makes for some nice numbers to brag about but has very little impact in reality.

    Yes, there are specific cases of very intensive memory bandwidth tasks, like video encoding, where you might notice some performance gain but for vast majority of uses, your memory won't be stressed enough to make any notable difference.

    Go with Fx-8350, 10GB are just fine.

  • ZebbakeiZebbakei Member UncommonPosts: 39
    Isn't your cpu still under warranty after only 5 months?
  • VoreDockVoreDock Member UncommonPosts: 128
    well the CPU is under warnty  but AMD took 3 weeks to answer me so Amazon refuned me  it was a FX8320E and after looking into it motr the 8320e  has a around a 22% fail rate  the vote core was always unstable i thought it was my MS but it sent it in to ASUS and it got a ALL GREEN  my power suply is a evga nex750b so np their 
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