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hey all... sorry to have to do this but im really pressed for time and cant do alot of research on RF. so if you wouldnt mind please answer a few game questions. feel free to elaborate as much as youd like.
background: have played about every major MMO...my favorites were EQ, DAoC, FFXI, L2, EVE. i enjoyed different qualities of each but none of those listed were able to combine what i like best enough to keep me playing for more than 1-2 yrs. was waiting for Dark and Light and Dungeons and Dragons Online but theyre so incredibly bad my friends and i are now searching for a new game.
1. how is character creation? i dont care too much about appearances but in terms of skills, are there choices in creation other than race that will "tailor" my character to different designs or "templates"?
2. how is character development? skill or class based? tech tree? do all classes end up being carbon copies of each other? any overly dominate skills? any classes that are overly uber or conversely, worthless?
3. hows the grind? i dont mind long or repetitive leveling as long as its somewhat interesting. i.e. the combat is mildly complex or challenging or capable of surprise. if i just hit the same 2 hotkeys over and over, id rather stick pins in my eyeballs.
4. i understand the game is RvR. how is the balance between the races? are the races different enough to create different playstyles or strategies?
5. what are the goals of RvR? what is gained or lost? can any real impact on the gameworld be made through RvR?
6. the game interface. customizable enough for western players? comparable to which other MMOs? is it point/click movement or WASD?
7. technical difficulties? where are the servers located? separate North American servers from Euro and Asian? lag problems?
well, those are my major concerns. thanks very much for any input and feedback you can offer.
cheers
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That is an unbiased and honest view on the game, if you think you might like it then give it a go, verything i have said is exactly how the game is, of course there will be things i have missed but i cant really write down everything that is in it.
Goodluck.
Garrik
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I am greatful for someone able to give such a post without belittling themselves with a troll. Congratulations Garrik you have pulled off what many 'others' would never be able to do. I hope you keep posting such fine posts.
And to all Trolls, be ashamed, very ashamed. Bashing a game for reason's that were NEVER in its design brief is just plain annoying. Go back to your other MMO's (we know where 90% of you came from) And let the Dev's guide you through life hand in hand. We are Oh so sorry that you can't create fun for yourself in a game designed around player interaction and RvRvR let alone free PvP in other titles. Remove those pipes from those rear ends and take a look at what a game that is different to the tradiotional Western, has to offer, not what you expect from it.
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Thanks alot Garrik.
that was exactly the kind of reply i was hoping to get. appreciate the well thought out examples and the links you supplied did well to fill in the rest. i'm about 75% ready to try RFO.
hope you dont mind expanding your thoughts on a few remaining concerns of mine.
1. after reading alot of posts, i'm a little worried about the use of potions. i hate that just clicking potions can negate any skill or strategy in the battle. is it really that easy to use potions? dont they have a refresh timer? do they nullify the need for a healer class or any teamwork between the classes?
2. ive also read alot of concerns over the movement/camera system. given the choice, id prefer the WASD or cursor movement style but reviewers have said this doesnt work very well. however you commented it was "comfortable". is there any substance to the negative comments about the movement? is it a responsive movement system? can you strafe, move backwards, change direction smoothly? i noticed in many of the videos the players just seem to stand in front of each other blasting away. id hate if it was just a rockem-sockem robot game where people just wailed on each until either dropped.
3. is there collision detection in RFO? my concern here is that ranged enemies can shoot through walls and mountains, etc. and hit me from impossible angles. is there even line of sight detection?
4. in your estimation, how much does equipment affect your success? in L2, i think items were far too overpowered and careful use of skills could almost never win against uber gear. i.e. can players just buy their way to victory?
5. the skill system seems most similiar to L2. just wondering if there was any way to redistribute spent skill pts once theyre allocated. ..i.e. can you experiment with a skill and then reclaim the skill pts if you dont like the skill. one thing i hated most with L2 was the fact you were so locked into your skills to the point if a skill was bugged or something you were completely stuck with it even if it wasnt working as intended.
6. one pet-peeve of mine is the visual clutter during fights. i hate to see names and damage messages floating everywhere. can these be turned off?
7. i'm left handed and have become accustomed to using the cursor keys for directional movement and the numpad for hotkeys. is this possible?
8. how many characters per account? and can you choose difference races?
once, again...thanks alot for your time; youre a good ambassador to the game, and this will really help me pinpoint whether or not to join RFO.
cheers
1. There is a 3 second timer on potions. The game is not designed for 1v1 pvp. It is designed for group vs group or race vs race. Also, there are no healers in this game. The potions enable you to level alot faster than other games of this sort because you do not have to pary to lvl non stop untill higher levels.
2. I havent used the wasd system. I like the simple method of point and click, but if you like WASD it is there. As for controlling the camer it is very similar to the way you controll the camer in Lineage 2. Simply hold the right mouse button and move it where you want it. There are some neat keyboard short cutts for camera possistions that are cool for large fights. I believe the k key zooms your camer way out into the sky letting you see terain and things you could not see other wize. However, when you do that the camera becomes fixed in that posision untill you hit k again. In other words if you move forward the camera does not move with you. I find that weird. As for battle your tactics depend on your character. As an archer in beta I found it prety easy to kite people if they choosed to attack me. However, I knew that I could not kill anyone alone. For the person to die someone else would have to have him on target and be attacking him. Organized groups is the way to fight in this game.
3. Yes, I hate targeting a monster in a slightly hilly area. For some reason the game actualy lets you shoot and waste your ammo, but the amo just hits the dirt and does not make it to the mob/person.
4. at high levels equipment will make a huge difference. However you have to understand that money is way easy to come by in this game. When I needed stuff all I did was afk mine when we had controll of the core. I average about 175k D an hour of mining.
5. I did not see a way to move points.
6. I was never bothered with it. I do not know the answer to this question.
7. I believe it is 3 chars per account and only one race per server. In other words if you play on the earth server you can only be one race on that server. If you want to play a diffrent race you must play on a diffrent server.
Hope it helps.
1. Yes - however unlike most mmog the pot spamming in RFO has to be seen to be believed. You will need to outnumber your opposition or be many many levels above them if you want them to go down. pots click in immediately at full rather than having any significant downtime and a gradual drinking effect. should be called injections they are that fast.
2. Yes. I think you would have to try it and make up your own mind though.
3. Not sure on this - the envirnoment is very simplistic in this respect. As an example you can be looking out on a vast plain and a huge mob can pop up in front of you becasue of the way the game renders as you walk. In combat, ranged attacks are not that ranged i.e. your enemy will be quite close to you for you to be able to hit them even with a ranged attack. There is very little by way of terrain to use to make battles more interesting.
4. yes - you will need to afk mine all the time you are not playing or afk level your buff skills. I think a lot of players getting excited about RFO dont have experience from other MMOG where this causes a lot of imbalance in the game. you can run around and prentend to be a pvper at almost any level and spam pots which is possibly why a lot of people claim the pvp is good (aside from the graphical elements of these events). items seem to be very limited, by no means do you have a wide selection of items to use in comparison to some other games - although you can enhance them and some of the items are very cool looking.
5. not to my knowledge. Personally i like it that way. If I decide to spend my afternoons skateboarding in the real world, i dont expect to be able to swap that experience to turn me into a champion flower arranger. i think you should have to research your skills and live with the decisions you make. In RFO you do have to take care with what you level (again it is a real shame - if not negligent) that the main RFO website still doesnt have info on this direct from the company and relies on fan sites and players to post this info. trouble with a lot of these skilsl is that they become non sensical - as said, a caster can just spam pots and mele a warrior toe to toe or a warrior spam pots to close in on a ranged attacker and spam pots - your skills are pretty much eyer candy and nothing else in a system as messed up as this - imo.
6. Not sure sorry. There was also the visual clutter of only being able to see the feet of some of the larger mobs in the game whilst fighting them at close range. This creates the added problem that the mobs footprint is so big you cant easily click an area that isnt the mob and hence manouvere away from them to vary the fight or your tactics - thats a real downer. Whilst in this situation you can be belted from all sides by opposition or other mobs and there is very little you can do other than telport away of kill them all and spam pots.
7. not sure m8.
8. 3 per server I believe.
On closing i would recommend anyone interested in mmog tries rfo - if you are on a tight budget maybe you need to debate it - but on the whole you should get the box price worth of fun or interest from it even if you do put it down and go onto something else. if you are in danger of being sucked in just becasue it is a new release in USA/Europe and you are the type of player that hasnt learnt to distinguish between genuinely skillful or groundbreaking mmog then it is definitely one to walk away from IMO becasue you might very well wake up in 12 months time with a mmog hangover and feeling you've wasted your time !!!
Caveat Emptor
thanks all for your comments. appreciate your time.
think im gonna pass on RFO.
happy gaming
Hey there , sorry i didnt get back to your other questions I havnt been around here for a while. Im glad to see you made your descision even if it is to pass on RF.
Maybe some day you wil end up playing it anyway .
Goodluck with whatever game you choose to play.
Garrik
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