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2010 FFXIV, 2011 SWTOR, 2012 GW2, 2013 Arche Age, 2014 ESO, 2015?

KopogeroKopogero Member UncommonPosts: 1,685

In terms of most hyped/anticipated/popular/AAA MMORPG's this is what came in the last 5 years. The interesing part though is how the game released in 2010 is getting more momentum, and more praise than everything else afterwards, but I'm not here to discuss about that.

We are entering in the 4th quarter of 2015 and obviouslly some things are changed, but can you notice what are these changes?

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Overwatch?

    Not a MMO .. but who bet it will be called one by at least some websites if it is successful?
  • DaikuruDaikuru Member RarePosts: 797
    2015 was bad, 2016 will be better.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    - Albert Einstein


  • nbtscannbtscan Member UncommonPosts: 862
    I'm not sure what discussion point you're looking for here.

    What will 2015's most hyped release be?  Blade and Soul maybe.  (assuming it's still coming out this year)

    What's 2015's most memorable MMO trend been?  All the paid early access/alpha crap between Kickstarters and Steam EA.

    Also, FFXIV was able to make a complete 180 and become profitable because it has some seriously deep pockets backing it, not outside investors or Kickstarters.  Any other game not made by SE or Blizzard would have to close up shop or become one of the other many F2P games out there.
  • ThourneThourne Member RarePosts: 757
    nbtscan said:
    I'm not sure what discussion point you're looking for here.

    What will 2015's most hyped release be?  Blade and Soul maybe.  (assuming it's still coming out this year)

    What's 2015's most memorable MMO trend been?  All the paid early access/alpha crap between Kickstarters and Steam EA.

    Also, FFXIV was able to make a complete 180 and become profitable because it has some seriously deep pockets backing it, not outside investors or Kickstarters.  Any other game not made by SE or Blizzard would have to close up shop or become one of the other many F2P games out there.
    I thought Blade and Soul got kicked to after the new year (but still winter of this year, yah it can be viewed as a technicality)?
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    NCSoft sure did try their best to hype Wildstar last, which is funny because most stuff I would read would talk about putting B&S before it....It'll be amusing to see how B&S does compared to Wildstar in the western market.
  • donger56donger56 Member RarePosts: 443
    I don't really consider FF14 a success story when it failed so badly it was shut down and "re-launched." Even today I think it has less than a million subs. For a game with a franchise like Final Fantasy behind it, that seems rather weak to me.

    What all MMO's that have been released in the past few years have in common is failure. None of them have really done anything but switch business models, merge servers, and do damage control. 2015 sucked hard for MMO's. 2016 has some interesting prospects but I can't really be anything more than cautiously optimistic. The higher the price of admission gets and the more "crowdfunding" we see, the lower the quality of games we seem to be getting. As consumers we need to be smarter. Stop throwing money at "ideas" that never amount to anything real. Have a higher standard when a game company asks you to hand over 150$ or more without ever having seen the game. That is when you will get better games and not until then. Keep buying junk and they will keep selling you more junk. 
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    2015...the year of the MOBA and other non MMORPG "games"

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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779
    Kopogero said:

    In terms of most hyped/anticipated/popular/AAA MMORPG's this is what came in the last 5 years. The interesing part though is how the game released in 2010 is getting more momentum, and more praise than everything else afterwards, but I'm not here to discuss about that.

    We are entering in the 4th quarter of 2015 and obviouslly some things are changed, but can you notice what are these changes?

    Except the game released in 2010 was a failure upon launch that had to be free for a good 5 or 6 months before they took the servers offline to completely overhaul the game. I remember when it came out and everyone was trashing it saying it was DOA. They deserve the new hype and momentum but you can't say the game was always in a good position, they realized their mistake and fixed it. Unlike most companies. 
  • Jonas_SGJonas_SG Member UncommonPosts: 475
    edited September 2015

    2015 is the year of Black Desert Online.

    It's unique combat, and a whole new level of graphics for MMOG's makes it the bigest Hit in MMOG world of 2015. With Successful launches in Korea, Japan and now in Russia, even known youtubers shade a positive light on this masterpiece:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyFrRcdbYC8

  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    donger56 said:
    I don't really consider FF14 a success story when it failed so badly it was shut down and "re-launched." Even today I think it has less than a million subs. For a game with a franchise like Final Fantasy behind it, that seems rather weak to me.


    The game was an absolute unplayable nightmare and they REMADE THE ENTIRE GAME from the ground up in the course of two years. They went from like... 20k subscribers to  ~1 million. I think it's one of the biggest success stories that's ever happened in this genre, but whatever...

    I don't think there's going to be another big MMO for awhile. B&S if it comes out, but I can't think of anything besides that. 
  • NasaNasa Member UncommonPosts: 749
    2015 is a weak year for new MMO releases. This year expansions have stolen the spotlight:
    • FFIV, Heavensword
    • SWTOR, Knights of the Fallen Empire
    • GW2, Heart of Thorns
    I think Cabal 2 and Echo of Soul got some hype, only because nothing else to hype.
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    There is still three months remaining in 2015, so there's still some time left, but I don't think there was a really major entry in the genre this year.  Black Desert might be the closest, but I don't know if it is at the same level as the other games listed in the title.

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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    Does FFXIV actually have more momentum than ESO? Haven't really seen much negative about ESO (besides the generic, ignorable "derp, it's not Skyrim so I hate it!") and many here seem to view it favorably.  Both games are great. Playing ESO now, but I do sorta plan on going back to give FFXIV more time at some point.

    For that matter should we count Warlords of Draenor in 2014's releases given that it was likely the biggest release of them all in 2014?

    Seems premature to discuss what "the big MMORPG" of 2015 is until 2015 is over and we've seen all it offers. So far nothing has really appealed to me.

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  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied Member UncommonPosts: 2,193
    edited September 2015
    I think SWTOR had the biggest hype. It was a massive hype train for several years before even I started to show interest. I was turned off by it since I saw the first announcement here on mmorpg.com, but joined the hype wagon about a year prior to it's release. On the official forums, people would go crazy over creating accounts to get a specific acc#, and thousands tuned into EA's quarterly earning report broadcast to hopefully glean some info about SWTOR's projected release time-frame.

    It was a fun themepark 0-60 experience but besides that I think it failed to deliver an adequate mmorpg experience. Major let down in that aspect.
  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied Member UncommonPosts: 2,193
    donger56 said:
    I don't really consider FF14 a success story when it failed so badly it was shut down and "re-launched." Even today I think it has less than a million subs. For a game with a franchise like Final Fantasy behind it, that seems rather weak to me.


    The game was an absolute unplayable nightmare and they REMADE THE ENTIRE GAME from the ground up in the course of two years. They went from like... 20k subscribers to  ~1 million. I think it's one of the biggest success stories that's ever happened in this genre, but whatever...

    I don't think there's going to be another big MMO for awhile. B&S if it comes out, but I can't think of anything besides that. 
    I think overall FFXI is still a much better mmorpg, if you can look past the extremely dated, slow paced combat system. The heavily encouraged grouping element of open world gameplay was fun, and it was awesome knowing the servers were international, where you could use the simple translation system to communicate with people of other languages.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Destiny The Taken King
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,020
    Kyleran said:
    2015...the year of the MOBA and other non MMORPG "games"
    and don't forget the pixels and voxels!
  • FomaldehydeJimFomaldehydeJim Member UncommonPosts: 673
    I would like for their not to be an over-hyped big release that is a Jack-of-all, master-of-none; but rather for there to be several niche games that appeal to the pvp crowd, the pve crowd, the end game gear grind crowd, the journey over destination crowd.

    What I don't want to see any more are "developers", read hobbiests, begging for money via crowd funding for hypothetical games. I do not know how begging money for hobbies gained so much traction, and I hope it ends.
  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    It's the year of Oop's sorry but here's a head up are butts forgive us package, and we learned from our billionth mistake again. 
     
  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
     Don't worry about what others think, and play what you think is fun, should be the headline of 2015. FFXIV deserves all the praise it gets, it's a new wow that offers a similar experience with new visuals and mechanics. The players that are looking for that seem to be very happy. GW2 also deserves the praise it gets, it's a solid pvp game that still finds ways to make pve worth while. 

     I think the 2015 landscape could be summarized with, we figured out Archeage hype was a bust (some people still love it), people found out not every title looks as it seems, every one flipped their shit for the FFVII remake announcement; which tells devs to do more remakes. We saw the world has room for a 3rd moba with HoTS, Blizzard gained a slight amount of hype with the Legion announcement. We learned Trion likes founders packs, but they still have at least 2 decent games (Trove,Rift).

     Going into Q4/Q12016 early feedback is saying Black Desert (Russian version) is another Archeage, with no real game till endgame, and where the players who pay more do better. My personal opinion is that it's decent, but I dislike many things about it, more than I did for Archeage, I'm not counting on it being spectacular, but I'll still try it again when it launches here in N/A. I actually thought Blade and Soul was much more fun, that's personal opinion though of course.  I'm not counting on Blade and Soul being huge either, but it could be with the right balance between buying and playing. 

     It seems like most people are finding "hold off" titles and seeing what comes in late 2016, I'd say this is a fair play. The best thing anyone can do is find what they think is fun and enjoy it. Future mmorpgs, and games in general should be judged on how they play, and whether people enjoy it; not the hype surrounding it. 
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    IMO we dont need a new hyped/anticipated/popular/AAA mmorpg every year.

    We are not talking about single player games that you beat then move on to the next. MMORPGS are being treated like that and thats one of the reasons why they dont hold enough people to be profitable in a clean/pro-consumer way. They have to cater to the weak willed to grab as much coin as possible before they leave the game instead of focusing on developing a game that can hold players long term with fun content (which is tied to quality over quantity as well but they always do the opposite).




  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    Well Blizzard needs another year off to work on the new expansion, just like how they didn't update anything for a year before dropping the Warlords of Draenor patch....I mean expansion.
  • knallpulverknallpulver Member UncommonPosts: 41
    There are no upcoming hyped MMORPGs...

    Sadly developing good MMORPGs takes a ton of money and time, which just isn't realistic for any developer out there other than Blizzard. 

    I hate to say it, REALLY hate it... but Blizzard is the only developer I could see making the next hyped up MMORPG that doesn't fail right away. They would obviously have an easy time getting players to buy it, and with their vast amount of money and developers, they could create the most polished and content rich MMORPG of all time.

    It's not like they need to stress and risk releasing an unfinished game to compete with other games in the genre...


    More niche games won't work either, because the players would still expect those games to have as much content and be as polished as they would expect a "fits all MMORPG". How are they supposed to deliver that with a much smaller and more niche playerbase?

    We see more and more small projects in the genre, and Kickstarter games is common now, but if a developer needs help with money like that, I just can't see any way they can make a good game.... Not an MMORPG, that requires the most money out of all types of games.
  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,368
    edited September 2015
    i was hyped badly by Gw2 back then...and it turned out to be a fun leveling game ....and once in a blue moon game, but hey it was B2P , i got my money worth  , not buying HOT , maybe later on ...

    Swtor overhyped too , and ugh...

    ESO was prosimising , but i cant play it for more than 2h w/o thinking , why are u playing this while u can play X.

    FFXIV after reboot has been my mmorpg , 2 years+ , atm HW has been "ok" , but im starting to feel burned out , doesnt help that 3.1 is still 1 month+ away :(

    2015 has been "meh" , B&S is going to be fun for a month~ , Black desert...combat is fast and what not , but i dont think it will do that well on the werstern....

    even the "king" WoW has lost half the subs in 2015 :open_mouth: , really bad year for mmorpgs no doubt
  • Jonas_SGJonas_SG Member UncommonPosts: 475
    DMKano said:
    2015 - Trove as far as Western MMO launches, which I love

    I've also been playing some Korean MMOs, Bless is still in beta and its quite good. Also Civilization Online is still in beta and it is probably the most fun territory conquest MMO I've ever played 

    I heard about Bless from som Russian players, and one of the staff members on this board mentioned it too.

    What kind of features does Bless has? I heard they had somewhat more PvE than you would normally see in Korean mmos.

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