Guess we should ignore you then. You flat out ignore that the pirates took the marine vehicle? That can ALSO happen when you go EVA (say into a satellite). They have turned this into a FPS. Someone sits inside the satellite, you go in, they steal your ship (and kill you and steal your ship).
It was proof of concept in the video. If you're going to be arrogant, at least watch the video so you have an ounce of credibility when you speak.
Nice to see things are coming together slowly. I look forward to playing SQ42 next year, it will be a massive nostalgia trip (WC fan here), while being a massive tech leap forward from WC at the same time.
I'd expect the PU to be launching in 2017 if all the problems can be solved by then. The small-scale demo that's coming (2.0) will be a good test-bed for the PU integration. It's been a long wait, and it's not over yet, but it's certainly looking like it will be worth it in the end... :pleased:
Guess we should ignore you then. You flat out ignore that the pirates took the marine vehicle? That can ALSO happen when you go EVA (say into a satellite). They have turned this into a FPS. Someone sits inside the satellite, you go in, they steal your ship (and kill you and steal your ship).
It was proof of concept in the video. If you're going to be arrogant, at least watch the video so you have an ounce of credibility when you speak.
Because we all know that once a design is presented it will NEVER change in any way...
Should it turn out to be aproblem it is a fairly easy things to adjust... Either with insurance or zoning or a simple opt out system.
I think you are looking for problem and ignoring any solutions... In short.. you are as bad as the people you rag on.
Guess we should ignore you then. You flat out ignore that the pirates took the marine vehicle? That can ALSO happen when you go EVA (say into a satellite). They have turned this into a FPS. Someone sits inside the satellite, you go in, they steal your ship (and kill you and steal your ship).
It was proof of concept in the video. If you're going to be arrogant, at least watch the video so you have an ounce of credibility when you speak.
It's pulled out of your ass because it was stated that the demo is in no way representative of what you're going to see in the release. And you don't know what is going to happen in release. You're basing your dogmatic assertions on an incomplete alpha demo. And only 20 minutes at that. You don't know how the game mechanics are going to work in the final game. You don't know if you can lock your ship.
Also, it's been stated officially that you can turn a "PVP slider" down to 0 and have
almost zero player interaction and potential for griefing in the online version of the game. It's been
stated that there will be heavily policed space, where if someone tries
to pirate your ship there will be serious consequences for said player as a deterrent against griefing. In addition, there is ship insurance to protect you from losing your ship.
So basically, you're citing the alpha demo to form concrete opinions on the final game, even when the creator of this alpha demo specifically stated that the alpha demo is not the final game and that the real PU is at least a year away from release.
Conjecture and fear is not evidence. Understand now?
Proof out of CR's own mouth, we aren't there yet and it needs a LOT of work!
Proof none of it really looked like a game, looked like a movie in production!
Proof no expense saved with actors they really didn't need!
Proof the whole CC was nothing more than an advertisement to sell more ships.
Proof, you guys want something that isn't going to look at all like that on your computers unless it is all cut screens on video.
You guys need to wake up and stop giving this guy money to burn! If you do that, believe me he will release some kind of game. I'm willing to bet any contracts he made with these actors also has some kind of clause to be in a SC movie.
Wake up? Dude, you're as delusional as DS and you are sounding more and more like him...makes me think you are and this is just one of your other accounts. As for me, I'll keep supporting CIG and Chris and oh yea...think I'm really going to have to buy that new ship...looks frakking amazing. Can't wait to fly it in game.
Go for it no skin off my back, but prudence may be the wiser choice.
Should it turn out to be aproblem it is a fairly easy things to adjust... Either with insurance or zoning or a simple opt out system.
Opt out? Easy to adjust? Coming from a game that was due out... now? And we're being told "soon"? Then you have games like E:D and No Man's Sky doing some incredible things in 1/4 of the time because they aren't running around like the dog from Up! screaming "squirrel" every time something else catches their attention.
You think the gnashing is bad now. Just wait. Most of what they're talking about is instanced... again. They're up to 20 v 20... right? Are we forgetting the huge Eve battles that already occur? This is going backwards.
The fact that I backed this... means I have stock in it. NO one wants their stock to flub but call a fish a fish. When something stinks... point it out... this is stinking to high hell right now for multiple reasons and this stream today didn't make me feel ANY better. What we saw today that was what was different from last year.... they flew and killed pirates last year too.. woohoo.... then the other 95% of the time was FPS/not in a ship fluff.
Proof out of CR's own mouth, we aren't there yet and it needs a LOT of work!
Proof none of it really looked like a game, looked like a movie in production!
Proof no expense saved with actors they really didn't need!
Proof the whole CC was nothing more than an advertisement to sell more ships.
Proof, you guys want something that isn't going to look at all like that on your computers unless it is all cut screens on video.
You guys need to wake up and stop giving this guy money to burn! If you do that, believe me he will release some kind of game. I'm willing to bet any contracts he made with these actors also has some kind of clause to be in a SC movie.
Wake up? Dude, you're as delusional as DS and you are sounding more and more like him...makes me think you are and this is just one of your other accounts. As for me, I'll keep supporting CIG and Chris and oh yea...think I'm really going to have to buy that new ship...looks frakking amazing. Can't wait to fly it in game.
Go for it no skin off my back, but prudence may be the wiser choice.
Prudence is one thing. Prudence and skepticism are (in my opinion) always a good thing.
Posting the way you do and crying "wolf" without any proof of anything? It's just embarrassing yourself. That's why the guy was comparing you to DS.
Can't take any of your posts on MMORPG seriously after seeing all the bullshit with zero evidence that you post here. Not that you care. But don't ever pretend not to be a little crazy, because people can just link right back to your explosive, emo tirades against this game while citing zero evidence. Rofl.
It's pulled out of your ass because it was stated that the demo is in no way representative of what you're going to see in the release.
Also, it's been stated officially that you can turn a "PVP slider" down to 0 and have
almost zero player interaction and potential for griefing in the online version of the game. It's been
stated that there will be heavily policed space, where if someone tries
to pirate your ship there will be serious consequences for said player as a deterrent against griefing.
Both of these may be very valid point. MAYBE. I don't know how true either of these statements are. They showed up in-game video and while it may not be final, I think we can assume that most of what is there is what is there so with the exception of some possible sliders everything else is viable.
And you're right, I'm basing my pissed-off-ness at a video that very specifically showed me something very troubling about a game that I'm already very WARY of because it has EARNED said wariness.
Eh.... Your irrelevant rant aside.... You where talking about getting your ship stolen... not the current release schedule....
And i am not sure you have actually partaken in some of those huge Eve battles... but they are not really.. interactive... It is a slideshow due to shot framerate and about as fun to partage in as doing your taxes. So it is not really a step back... more a step sideways... as in.. Do you like to have massive battles at the framerate of -1 or do you want squadbased battles but at a acceptable framrate...
Buuuuut... No.... You have no "stock" nor actuall stock in the game... But if it makes you feel better i´l grant you that delusion.
It's pulled out of your ass because it was stated that the demo is in no way representative of what you're going to see in the release.
Also, it's been stated officially that you can turn a "PVP slider" down to 0 and have
almost zero player interaction and potential for griefing in the online version of the game. It's been
stated that there will be heavily policed space, where if someone tries
to pirate your ship there will be serious consequences for said player as a deterrent against griefing.
Both of these may be very valid point. MAYBE. I don't know how true either of these statements are. They showed up in-game video and while it may not be final, I think we can assume that most of what is there is what is there so with the exception of some possible sliders everything else is viable.
And you're right, I'm basing my pissed-off-ness at a video that very specifically showed me something very troubling about a game that I'm already very WARY of because it has EARNED said wariness.
That's exactly my point. MAYBE. No one knows, so seriously, why bash the game prematurely? I don't understand it. Aside from trolling or engaging in forum PVP. If you're genuinely pissed off about that, why don't you go give your feedback to CIG? Pretty sure there's a huge contingent of backers who want 0 griefing in the game. It's not like your alone dude.
But coming on here and stating your fears as facts? That makes you seem a little nutty. That was point.
But coming on here and stating your fears as facts? That makes you seem a little nutty. That was point.
They are facts. The current state of the game allows this. And I have pointed this out on other forums/twitter as well because I see this turning into a grief-fest rather than a game.
Guess we should ignore you then. You flat out ignore that the pirates took the marine vehicle? That can ALSO happen when you go EVA (say into a satellite). They have turned this into a FPS. Someone sits inside the satellite, you go in, they steal your ship (and kill you and steal your ship).
It was proof of concept in the video. If you're going to be arrogant, at least watch the video so you have an ounce of credibility when you speak.
It's pulled out of your ass because it was stated that the demo is in no way representative of what you're going to see in the release. And you don't know what is going to happen in release. You're basing your dogmatic assertions on an incomplete alpha demo. And only 20 minutes at that. You don't know how the game mechanics are going to work in the final game. You don't know if you can lock your ship.
Also, it's been stated officially that you can turn a "PVP slider" down to 0 and have
almost zero player interaction and potential for griefing in the online version of the game. It's been
stated that there will be heavily policed space, where if someone tries
to pirate your ship there will be serious consequences for said player as a deterrent against griefing. In addition, there is ship insurance to protect you from losing your ship.
So basically, you're citing the alpha demo to form concrete opinions on the final game, even when the creator of this alpha demo specifically stated that the alpha demo is not the final game and that the real PU is at least a year away from release.
Conjecture and fear is not evidence. Understand now?
Ok, so your slating a guy who is basing his opinions TODAY and what he saw TODAY, and then turning around and using the "it wont be like when the game releases argument".
For us who think you are being taken for a ride, we can use the same example, basically by saying what you said he has done nothing, everyone who says
"wow that game looks awesome"
can i add
"it wont be like when the game releases" so no point watching the video
you can try to defend CR on the basis of things might change, and yet big-up the game on what you have just seen when things might change.
The only facts we have in front of us is that the game is, what the game is today, and that is nothing but a promo video
Now to prove my point let me show you one of my biggest EVER regrets in the mmo development failures WoD
Now you can see whilst its not live gameplay (there is a block on any live video coming from any CCP film)
But, as you can see the game play was live (the youtube is just screenshots of actually gameplay), and it was canned when it was actually further down the development line than SC.
So you see what you have seen today is actually no more or less than what was shown at CCP Fanfest in 2012 /2013 and that didn't end well
So please dont use what you have seen today as 'proof' that the game will be awesome , but also as proof that the game will be crap.... It is what it is today.
I hope for the backers that you will get something for your money, but i TRULY believe that there are going to be a lot of butt-hurt people when CR admits he got things wrong blah blah
But coming on here and stating your fears as facts? That makes you seem a little nutty. That was point.
They are facts. The current state of the game allows this. And I have pointed this out on other forums/twitter as well because I see this turning into a grief-fest rather than a game.
You literally just agreed with me in the post above that these are not facts. The final PU is a year or more from release.
Maybe you're talking about just the upcoming alpha demo? That would make more sense. However, even that we don't know what they're going to do or when it will be released. Might be a long time.
Also, the alpha demo that they showed was stated as sandbox to try out core features. I don't see how it prevents them from locking the damn ship. Seems like an extremely easy option to lock the ship.
Also, the purpose of the demo seems to be for people to try and break it. To see what happens. If there's too much griefing, they fix the problem. That's the whole point, paraphrasing what Roberts was stating in the presentation.
You're getting scared about this way too early man. The game has a long way to go.
Guess we should ignore you then. You flat out ignore that the pirates took the marine vehicle? That can ALSO happen when you go EVA (say into a satellite). They have turned this into a FPS. Someone sits inside the satellite, you go in, they steal your ship (and kill you and steal your ship).
It was proof of concept in the video. If you're going to be arrogant, at least watch the video so you have an ounce of credibility when you speak.
It's pulled out of your ass because it was stated that the demo is in no way representative of what you're going to see in the release. And you don't know what is going to happen in release. You're basing your dogmatic assertions on an incomplete alpha demo. And only 20 minutes at that. You don't know how the game mechanics are going to work in the final game. You don't know if you can lock your ship.
Also, it's been stated officially that you can turn a "PVP slider" down to 0 and have
almost zero player interaction and potential for griefing in the online version of the game. It's been
stated that there will be heavily policed space, where if someone tries
to pirate your ship there will be serious consequences for said player as a deterrent against griefing. In addition, there is ship insurance to protect you from losing your ship.
So basically, you're citing the alpha demo to form concrete opinions on the final game, even when the creator of this alpha demo specifically stated that the alpha demo is not the final game and that the real PU is at least a year away from release.
Conjecture and fear is not evidence. Understand now?
Ok, so your slating a guy who is basing his opinions TODAY and what he saw TODAY, and then turning around and using the "it wont be like when the game releases argument".
For us who think you are being taken for a ride, we can use the same example, basically by saying what you said he has done nothing, everyone who says
"wow that game looks awesome"
can i add
"it wont be like when the game releases" so no point watching the video
you can try to defend CR on the basis of things might change, and yet big-up the game on what you have just seen when things might change.
The only facts we have in front of us is that the game is, what the game is today, and that is nothing but a promo video
Now to prove my point let me show you one of my biggest EVER regrets in the mmo development failures WoD
Now you can see whilst its not live gameplay (there is a block on any live video coming from any CCP film)
But, as you can see the game play was live (the youtube is just screenshots of actually gameplay), and it was canned when it was actually further down the development line than SC.
So you see what you have seen today is actually no more or less than what was shown at CCP Fanfest in 2012 /2013 and that didn't end well
So please dont use what you have seen today as 'proof' that the game will be awesome , but also as proof that the game will be crap.... It is what it is today.
I hope for the backers that you will get something for your money, but i TRULY believe that there are going to be a lot of butt-hurt people when CR admits he got things wrong blah blah
That's correct. I agree with your statements. The game that we saw today is just showing the progress they are making. We can see some core features, like Large World (64bit), multicrew, ship functions, stations, hyperdrive (or whatever), some FPS gameplay etc.
We don't see a lot of features yet that are planned for final release, such as the PVP slider, AI, trading, police, insurance functionality, etc etc.
Even of the features we saw today, it can "look great". I can say that "I thought it looked awesome" or "I thought it looked like shit". Both of those statements are valid and rational.
But nothing should be taken as gospel. If that Aliens game taught us anything, it's that demo's don't mean shit. The released game will tell-all.
So all of the Oracles (lmao) that we have in this forum are just embarrassing themselves by stating that "the game is ______ and ______" when in reality, there is no game yet.
There are demos and modules that can individually critiqued, but not a complete game.
Proof out of CR's own mouth, we aren't there yet and it needs a LOT of work!
Proof none of it really looked like a game, looked like a movie in production!
Proof no expense saved with actors they really didn't need!
Proof the whole CC was nothing more than an advertisement to sell more ships.
Proof, you guys want something that isn't going to look at all like that on your computers unless it is all cut screens on video.
You guys need to wake up and stop giving this guy money to burn! If you do that, believe me he will release some kind of game. I'm willing to bet any contracts he made with these actors also has some kind of clause to be in a SC movie.
Wake up? Dude, you're as delusional as DS and you are sounding more and more like him...makes me think you are and this is just one of your other accounts. As for me, I'll keep supporting CIG and Chris and oh yea...think I'm really going to have to buy that new ship...looks frakking amazing. Can't wait to fly it in game.
Go for it no skin off my back, but prudence may be the wiser choice.
Prudence is one thing. Prudence and skepticism are (in my opinion) always a good thing.
Posting the way you do and crying "wolf" without any proof of anything? It's just embarrassing yourself. That's why the guy was comparing you to DS.
Can't take any of your posts on MMORPG seriously after seeing all the bullshit with zero evidence that you post here. Not that you care. But don't ever pretend not to be a little crazy, because people can just link right back to your explosive, emo tirades against this game while citing zero evidence. Rofl.
Again you and other people on CR's side say the employee's that are talking is not proof. But yet like I said a number of times all of you take what CR says as truth and proof. I will go with the employees and hope someone goes in and gets the hard evidence. Or maybe they will find nothing, but either way it needs to be done.
Also imho after watching CR, something is not right there.
Proof out of CR's own mouth, we aren't there yet and it needs a LOT of work!
Proof none of it really looked like a game, looked like a movie in production!
Proof no expense saved with actors they really didn't need!
Proof the whole CC was nothing more than an advertisement to sell more ships.
Proof, you guys want something that isn't going to look at all like that on your computers unless it is all cut screens on video.
You guys need to wake up and stop giving this guy money to burn! If you do that, believe me he will release some kind of game. I'm willing to bet any contracts he made with these actors also has some kind of clause to be in a SC movie.
Wake up? Dude, you're as delusional as DS and you are sounding more and more like him...makes me think you are and this is just one of your other accounts. As for me, I'll keep supporting CIG and Chris and oh yea...think I'm really going to have to buy that new ship...looks frakking amazing. Can't wait to fly it in game.
Go for it no skin off my back, but prudence may be the wiser choice.
Prudence is one thing. Prudence and skepticism are (in my opinion) always a good thing.
Posting the way you do and crying "wolf" without any proof of anything? It's just embarrassing yourself. That's why the guy was comparing you to DS.
Can't take any of your posts on MMORPG seriously after seeing all the bullshit with zero evidence that you post here. Not that you care. But don't ever pretend not to be a little crazy, because people can just link right back to your explosive, emo tirades against this game while citing zero evidence. Rofl.
Again you and other people on CR's side say the employee's that are talking is not proof. But yet like I said a number of times all of you take what CR says as truth and proof. I will go with the employees and hope someone goes in and gets the hard evidence. Or maybe they will find nothing, but either way it needs to be done.
Also imho after watching CR, something is not right there.
I'm not on CR's side at all. I'm on the side of facts, because I'm a skeptic.
Your statement is no different than labeling me a communist because I'm skeptical of religion (i.e. choose not to believe because there is zero evidence).
Just because I choose not to believe in your fanatical, bombastic conspiracy posts does not mean that I am "on CR's side".
If evidence were posted tomorrow that Star Citizen was any of the things that you dogmatically state, I would immediately detract and condemn Roberts and whomever else is responsible.
That's what makes me and you different. I'm a skeptic. You're a "believer". You just happen to "believe" that the game is a fraud, as opposed to those who "believe" that it's the second coming of Christ. In my opinion, both forms of "belief" are nutty.
The "game" or whatever you want to call it right now, does look amazing and IF it is actually finished, could be one of those few masterpieces that will be remembered for generations to come.
I dont know why people get so upset that some other people spends what is bearly 10k on a game. there are people that do bad investment everyday in the millions. Other then that i just hope there will be a good game out of this. i have spent my 29 euro on this and thats about what im going to spend. if its a really crappy game. well then i lost that cash. But then again we are spending money on a game. So in a sense we all lose that cash we are spending. its not like we can make that money work for us.
Seriously kids, get a life. It doesnt matter if RSI is abusing its funding, it matters if they can put out a decent game.
Innovative things take extra time, so all those whining like a nancy about how much work has been done, get into the code and see what they have done there, a hell of a lot. But you kids would never actually do your due diligence now would you.
Derek Smart, doesnt matter Chris Roberts, doesnt matter Misuse of funds, doesnt matter
What matters is if RSI puts out a decent game or not, and right now it is only uneducated trolls that put and end judgement on whether or not that is going to happen.
Give it time, if dec 2016 rolls by and there is no full game at least in beta, then worry. Until then get the fuck back to work kids, you obviously have way too much time on your hands and a distinct addiction to drama.
LOL @Xeno.phon So 2013 passed and people said that 2014 passed, now 2015 is going to past. So let me ask you how much money and ships should everyone keep giving him? Like I said this could go on till 2020, if you look at what he has been doing 2020 isn't really unrealistic.
At this point anyone on the internet, who is still trying to shame Star Citizen and make people think something is wrong with the game, are just internet-knighting and arguing their previous points, that the game was trash, for the sake of not being wrong, so they don't admit that the game actually, is looking amazing, a lot of information was put out, and a lot of hard work has been put into the game.
People got more than what they were expecting from the convention, a PU module, and everything regarding Squadron-42. Along with the announcement of SQ-42 launching in 2016.
For everyone who may or may not be aware, Chris announced, 3 years ago on the KS his goal was to finish the game by 2015. When he said game, he meant SQ-42, not the PU. Assuming the latest he can be late with SQ-42 is a single year, there really isn't' wrong with that, while the justification for it being late a year can easily be attributed to the unpredictability of development, especially of an MMO, it being their first, large project. The difference between what the original goals were in the KS and how much they've managed to raise now, everything done in the year difference for the game has been polishing, and using all the money we've given it to make it a far, greater game than was originally promised.
At this point I'm just worried about the other games coming out in 2016, because Star Citizen will be winning the Game of the Year awards for that year.
LOL @Xeno.phon So 2013 passed and people said that 2014 passed, now 2015 is going to past. So let me ask you how much money and ships should everyone keep giving him? Like I said this could go on till 2020, if you look at what he has been doing 2020 isn't really unrealistic.
As many as those wanting to? You're PoV matters little to nothing to them. No offense
Re-iterating the same opinions over and over, given the fact the game won't be seen for a few years won't change the hope/hype others have. Even if it flops, I still don't see what motivates people to "piss in other people's cereals". :awesome:
Until CR ruins crowdfunding, sad a really good developer that has an even better idea will lose out because of people like CR. Nope just ignore the real problem he could be causing.
@whisperwynd Excellent point. I agree. The biggest mistake Roberts has ever made was promising release dates when he clearly did not understand how long it would actually take.
I think we've got 2 more years. I think that we will see the first episode of SQ42 released in 2016, but it won't be a big game.
I don't think it's a good idea to do it that way, either. I would rather see them wait and release the entire game in completion in 2017, with the PU and all.
They need to eat the bad publicity on this. They promised incorrect release dates. It's that simple. They need to eat it and admit that the game is 2 years out from completion.
As for people going bonkers over it. So what? It's clear that there is a huge caste of backers who are willing to wait a couple years more for the game. Screaming about it won't help anymore, as it seems like Roberts has finally learned his lesson. Today he refused to give a release date (even though he was clearly tempted).
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It was proof of concept in the video. If you're going to be arrogant, at least watch the video so you have an ounce of credibility when you speak.
I'd expect the PU to be launching in 2017 if all the problems can be solved by then. The small-scale demo that's coming (2.0) will be a good test-bed for the PU integration. It's been a long wait, and it's not over yet, but it's certainly looking like it will be worth it in the end... :pleased:
Should it turn out to be aproblem it is a fairly easy things to adjust... Either with insurance or zoning or a simple opt out system.
I think you are looking for problem and ignoring any solutions... In short.. you are as bad as the people you rag on.
This have been a good conversation
Also, it's been stated officially that you can turn a "PVP slider" down to 0 and have almost zero player interaction and potential for griefing in the online version of the game. It's been stated that there will be heavily policed space, where if someone tries to pirate your ship there will be serious consequences for said player as a deterrent against griefing. In addition, there is ship insurance to protect you from losing your ship.
So basically, you're citing the alpha demo to form concrete opinions on the final game, even when the creator of this alpha demo specifically stated that the alpha demo is not the final game and that the real PU is at least a year away from release.
Conjecture and fear is not evidence. Understand now?
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
You think the gnashing is bad now. Just wait. Most of what they're talking about is instanced... again. They're up to 20 v 20... right? Are we forgetting the huge Eve battles that already occur? This is going backwards.
The fact that I backed this... means I have stock in it. NO one wants their stock to flub but call a fish a fish. When something stinks... point it out... this is stinking to high hell right now for multiple reasons and this stream today didn't make me feel ANY better. What we saw today that was what was different from last year.... they flew and killed pirates last year too.. woohoo.... then the other 95% of the time was FPS/not in a ship fluff.
Posting the way you do and crying "wolf" without any proof of anything? It's just embarrassing yourself. That's why the guy was comparing you to DS.
Can't take any of your posts on MMORPG seriously after seeing all the bullshit with zero evidence that you post here. Not that you care. But don't ever pretend not to be a little crazy, because people can just link right back to your explosive, emo tirades against this game while citing zero evidence. Rofl.
And you're right, I'm basing my pissed-off-ness at a video that very specifically showed me something very troubling about a game that I'm already very WARY of because it has EARNED said wariness.
And i am not sure you have actually partaken in some of those huge Eve battles... but they are not really.. interactive... It is a slideshow due to shot framerate and about as fun to partage in as doing your taxes. So it is not really a step back... more a step sideways... as in.. Do you like to have massive battles at the framerate of -1 or do you want squadbased battles but at a acceptable framrate...
Buuuuut... No.... You have no "stock" nor actuall stock in the game... But if it makes you feel better i´l grant you that delusion.
This have been a good conversation
But coming on here and stating your fears as facts? That makes you seem a little nutty. That was point.
so your slating a guy who is basing his opinions TODAY and what he saw TODAY, and then turning around and using the "it wont be like when the game releases argument".
For us who think you are being taken for a ride, we can use the same example, basically by saying what you said he has done nothing, everyone who says
"wow that game looks awesome"
can i add
"it wont be like when the game releases" so no point watching the video
you can try to defend CR on the basis of things might change, and yet big-up the game on what you have just seen when things might change.
The only facts we have in front of us is that the game is, what the game is today, and that is nothing but a promo video
Now to prove my point let me show you one of my biggest EVER regrets in the mmo development failures WoD
Now you can see whilst its not live gameplay (there is a block on any live video coming from any CCP film)
But, as you can see the game play was live (the youtube is just screenshots of actually gameplay), and it was canned when it was actually further down the development line than SC.
So you see what you have seen today is actually no more or less than what was shown at CCP Fanfest in 2012 /2013 and that didn't end well
So please dont use what you have seen today as 'proof' that the game will be awesome , but also as proof that the game will be crap.... It is what it is today.
I hope for the backers that you will get something for your money, but i TRULY believe that there are going to be a lot of butt-hurt people when CR admits he got things wrong blah blah
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
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Maybe you're talking about just the upcoming alpha demo? That would make more sense. However, even that we don't know what they're going to do or when it will be released. Might be a long time.
Also, the alpha demo that they showed was stated as sandbox to try out core features. I don't see how it prevents them from locking the damn ship. Seems like an extremely easy option to lock the ship.
Also, the purpose of the demo seems to be for people to try and break it. To see what happens. If there's too much griefing, they fix the problem. That's the whole point, paraphrasing what Roberts was stating in the presentation.
You're getting scared about this way too early man. The game has a long way to go.
Not really the same situation as SC
This have been a good conversation
We don't see a lot of features yet that are planned for final release, such as the PVP slider, AI, trading, police, insurance functionality, etc etc.
Even of the features we saw today, it can "look great". I can say that "I thought it looked awesome" or "I thought it looked like shit". Both of those statements are valid and rational.
But nothing should be taken as gospel. If that Aliens game taught us anything, it's that demo's don't mean shit. The released game will tell-all.
So all of the Oracles (lmao) that we have in this forum are just embarrassing themselves by stating that "the game is ______ and ______" when in reality, there is no game yet.
There are demos and modules that can individually critiqued, but not a complete game.
Also imho after watching CR, something is not right there.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
Your statement is no different than labeling me a communist because I'm skeptical of religion (i.e. choose not to believe because there is zero evidence).
Just because I choose not to believe in your fanatical, bombastic conspiracy posts does not mean that I am "on CR's side".
If evidence were posted tomorrow that Star Citizen was any of the things that you dogmatically state, I would immediately detract and condemn Roberts and whomever else is responsible.
That's what makes me and you different. I'm a skeptic. You're a "believer". You just happen to "believe" that the game is a fraud, as opposed to those who "believe" that it's the second coming of Christ. In my opinion, both forms of "belief" are nutty.
The "game" or whatever you want to call it right now, does look amazing and IF it is actually finished, could be one of those few masterpieces that will be remembered for generations to come.
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there are people that do bad investment everyday in the millions.
Other then that i just hope there will be a good game out of this.
i have spent my 29 euro on this and thats about what im going to spend.
if its a really crappy game. well then i lost that cash. But then again we are spending money on a game.
So in a sense we all lose that cash we are spending.
its not like we can make that money work for us.
Innovative things take extra time, so all those whining like a nancy about how much work has been done, get into the code and see what they have done there, a hell of a lot. But you kids would never actually do your due diligence now would you.
Derek Smart, doesnt matter
Chris Roberts, doesnt matter
Misuse of funds, doesnt matter
What matters is if RSI puts out a decent game or not, and right now it is only uneducated trolls that put and end judgement on whether or not that is going to happen.
Give it time, if dec 2016 rolls by and there is no full game at least in beta, then worry. Until then get the fuck back to work kids, you obviously have way too much time on your hands and a distinct addiction to drama.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
People got more than what they were expecting from the convention, a PU module, and everything regarding Squadron-42. Along with the announcement of SQ-42 launching in 2016.
For everyone who may or may not be aware, Chris announced, 3 years ago on the KS his goal was to finish the game by 2015. When he said game, he meant SQ-42, not the PU. Assuming the latest he can be late with SQ-42 is a single year, there really isn't' wrong with that, while the justification for it being late a year can easily be attributed to the unpredictability of development, especially of an MMO, it being their first, large project. The difference between what the original goals were in the KS and how much they've managed to raise now, everything done in the year difference for the game has been polishing, and using all the money we've given it to make it a far, greater game than was originally promised.
At this point I'm just worried about the other games coming out in 2016, because Star Citizen will be winning the Game of the Year awards for that year.
Re-iterating the same opinions over and over, given the fact the game won't be seen for a few years won't change the hope/hype others have. Even if it flops, I still don't see what motivates people to "piss in other people's cereals". :awesome:
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
I think we've got 2 more years. I think that we will see the first episode of SQ42 released in 2016, but it won't be a big game.
I don't think it's a good idea to do it that way, either. I would rather see them wait and release the entire game in completion in 2017, with the PU and all.
They need to eat the bad publicity on this. They promised incorrect release dates. It's that simple. They need to eat it and admit that the game is 2 years out from completion.
As for people going bonkers over it. So what? It's clear that there is a huge caste of backers who are willing to wait a couple years more for the game. Screaming about it won't help anymore, as it seems like Roberts has finally learned his lesson. Today he refused to give a release date (even though he was clearly tempted).