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Righteous_Rock
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Now that the system is basically a pc, and backwards compatibility is here, is it reasonable to speculate that even though xbox one will be Microsofts last console that we will see multiple generations of the Xbox one that have enhanced graphical power, more ram, more processing and so on.... Will these systems pop up every two to three years, just like the need for pc upgrades appear?
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Maybe they'll periodically launch a new version with the same base hardware as before, except a new version of Kinect bundled.
The problem with updating consoles every couple of years is that it means the hardware has no longevity. Either vendors keep targeting the old hardware, or else the old hardware can't run what console games are built to do.
Regardless, I don't see anything new coming from Sony or Microsoft until 14 nm process nodes aren't that expensive anymore.
If Xbox One didn't lag behind PS4 sales so much, they wouldn't have made it backwards compatible.
Console makers don't like backwards compatibility, because it promotes the second hand sale of games and it keeps older games in circulation.
If Xbox One didn't lag behind so much in sales, they would have never done this. They didn't launch their console with this feature to begin with, even though they could have, it's a response to PS4 sales, it's not because Microsoft suddenly cares about you playing older games, they don't.
PC is different from consoles, Microsoft makes money from every Xbox game sold, they don't make money from every PC game sold. Microsoft wants you to buy Xbox games and not Playstation games, however, they don't care what kind of PC game you buy, or if you buy a PC game at all.
Their goal is selling as many consoles as they can, they don't like the second hand market, or old discounted games, they only did this to compete with PS4 outselling them.
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If Microsoft was smart they would sell me a $100 Xbox plugin for my PC that would allow me to play Xbox games on my PC.
They would make a hell of a lot more money off me then, than they do now.
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I am sure with this change PCs will be getting xbox games on their PC some way. Even if its an emulator thats easier to make because the OS is the same.
completely agree, I think 2g,3g,4g .... xbox ones have a place though for folks that don't think they have what it takes to manage a pc.
Backwards compatibility is the reason i needed to buy an XBO.
if the XBO keeps enough console exclusives (not on Play Station), then being backwards compatible is the one reason that will make me buy an XBO. I dont care if the same game is on PC, i only play mmos and mod supported games on PC, and of course PC exclusives.
So if there are enough games on XBO, including the 360 exclusives that i never got to play, then sure i would buy one with backwards compatibility.
I doubt we will see anything in two to three years. Considering how much time they were able to milk out of the 360, I would guess they won't be in any hurry to rush to the "next" gen, whenever that actually is. Besides, there are undoubtedly still things that need to be worked out in this gen. So far I would say that my XB 1 is far more stable than my 360 ever was, but that may not be everyone's experience.
I'm thinking they will do with this gen precisely what they did with the last: allow it to make them money for as long as possible, while gradually working on something new in the background. I would predict at least five years before we see anything heavily pointing towards yet another console generation.
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Backwards compatibility is a great thing, I'm fond of it when it's available, but the list is pretty . . . sad at this time.
I'm actually surprised that the system seller Gears of War wasn't the first thing to port. Other good titles: Alan Wake, Halo 3, Forza, Bastion. And that pretty much sums up the 360.
I personally want to play Magna Carta 2, Tales of Vesperia, Lost Odyssey, BLue Dragon (all JRPGs), finishThe Darkness 1, and a couple of others from your list. But i dont have a 360 anymore so if they can be played on XBO with the original disc then im game. I hope Sony takes this seriously and add the same thing to the PS4. There is no where in hell im supporting PSNow streaming.
EDIT: just noticed that list is the first wave of 360 games supported on XBO, i thought it was just a list you came up with lol. Yeah.... ill wait until the games i want to play get support, otherwise ill pass.
There are always tweaks to the consoles - it usually doesn't affect gameplay or capabilities. Most of it are cost-savings measures that come up due to new advances, like bigger HDDs, higher efficiency parts (that can lead to lower cooling requirements and smaller PSUs), slightly different cases (Slim editions), etc.
There are mostly for the manufacturer to be able to cut the manufacturing costs down, and to generate some additional buzz/marketing for some additional sales to people new to the platform. It's usually not marketed to people who already own that console to upgrade.
The underlaying hardware specifications rarely change, because that could affect game compatibility. It's unusual for a new revision of an existing generation to have different processing capability, but not unheard of (3ds vs New 3ds, for example).
I have one of each of the previous generation. I don't have either of the new generation. The WiiU is the only console we have right now that gets play time (and it gets a decent amount). Exclusives are what hooks me into a console, otherwise I'd rather play on my PC. Mario Kart / Mario Party win out on the WiiU (with my 8-year-old), and there haven't been any other exclusives yet to drive me to a next-gen console (although FFXV may be the one).
The issue is that a developer can't develop a game to run on the "new" hardware because then it won't perform properly on the "old" hardware, and millions of people will have aneurysms and extreme butt hurtery.
This is the core problem with consoles and why the xbox 360 and PS3 were such a massive detriment to gaming. AAA new games were being developed to run on 7-8 year old hardware, while literally bargain basement PC's were running circles around them.
Consoles worked in the late 80's and 90's when hardware was moving a LOT slower than it is today (graphically speaking). But its just not a feasible method anymore. I really do wish consoles would die. They've done nothing good for the whole of gaming in the last 10 years. Nothing at all. Basically been a big lead weight tied to the proverbial ankle of gaming.
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It's also a hassle for game publishers. Console publishers are far more picky about system specs and building around it.
I think what they will do is release smaller versions as the process node continues to shrink.
Also computers have been moving at a steady pace of development tied primarily to the process node available. We went from dark green and light green text to 8-bit graphics. That's a lot of work.