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why is Divergence not on upcoming game list?

blutigfaustblutigfaust Member UncommonPosts: 129
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Did they fail to grease the palms of MMORPG employees? Or is it because they are a indie game? I've seen them advertised here before, but I guess when payments stop, so does their mention.  It was at top spot in steam greenlight, so thought it would be mention worthy of a site that claims to be about MMOs

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  • reeereeereeereee Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Last time I saw a Divergance article Bill was fairly mercilessly attacked for promoting it.  I'm not sure why but there are a lot of people around here with a vendetta against that game. 

    That said I rarely visit steam, I guess it's fairing better there.  
  • blutigfaustblutigfaust Member UncommonPosts: 129
     Not sure why folks disliked it so much, it isn't any worse off than some of the other games still in alpha?  I guess all the folks who said add non-pvp server and we'll donate, were just talking poop.  Not many, if any donated after they said they'd add one.  Just wondered why a game that shows promise to be the next SWG Pre-NGE isn't even included. Guess all the orig SWG fans moved on. Anyway, no biggie I guess, I barely come here anymore, its becoming irrelevant here, as info is just paid advertisements now days.

    Current games playing: MechWarrior Online
    Games being watched:  Project Genom
    Favorite played games: SWG, RomaVictor, and Xsyon

  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    blutigfaust said:
     Not sure why folks disliked it so much, it isn't any worse off than some of the other games still in alpha?  I guess all the folks who said add non-pvp server and we'll donate, were just talking poop.  Not many, if any donated after they said they'd add one.  Just wondered why a game that shows promise to be the next SWG Pre-NGE isn't even included. Guess all the orig SWG fans moved on. Anyway, no biggie I guess, I barely come here anymore, its becoming irrelevant here, as info is just paid advertisements now days.
    Huh? It is not even close to a SWG design.  This is a straight pvp game that will never amount to much at all because pvpers for some reason don't support these games.   I might give it a look when it is released, but it has a long way to go at the moment.
  • Charlie.CheswickCharlie.Cheswick Member UncommonPosts: 469
    Everyone is on the offensive these days. Makes for a boring read of posts in otherwise neutral threads.
    -Chuckles
  • DauntisDauntis Member UncommonPosts: 600
    Well probably also holding off until the inevitable lawsuit over the name is settled, so they can call it by whatever they change the name to.

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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Charlie.Cheswick said:
    Everyone is on the offensive these days. Makes for a boring read of posts in otherwise neutral threads.

    Neutral? One look at his post history tells anyone with half a brain that he's a shill. Like his entry in this thread.

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  • khanstructkhanstruct Member UncommonPosts: 756
    Out of curiosity, how does a game get listed on this site? Do they just look for games with promise and hype and make a judgement call?

    My game is nowhere near ready to be listed anywhere, I'm just wondering.

  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340

    if I recall correctly the game was listed here and the forum was deleted.

    @khanstruct ; see the rules for listing.

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  • SnoepieSnoepie Member UncommonPosts: 485
    their kickstarter failed 2 times i think not sure..

    @ some point he got a new programmer i believe.. tbh i think the dude is alone.

    Not to manyupdates..

    The idea is great i think.. but i think this game  is getting nowhere
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited November 2015
    1 This site promotes every game,so hardly seems like unbiased articles.
    2 Steam accepts pretty much anything and everything now a days,so hardly worth noting.
    3 Divergence is by a VERY small team,like maybe 1-3 people,possibly a couple more freelancers or similar but definitely not a game that has a plausible chance of becoming a Triple A game.

    I have checked it out a few times,imo the main guy has put in some pretty good effort,far more than say what Roberts did pitching his game and he got 90 million dollars worth of support for doing literally nothing except sell ships and promises.IMO if this guy got the exact same support as Roberts did,he likely could produce a better well rounded game with a lot more content and ideas than just ships/space and a single player mini game.

    Will this game be worth it or anything special,i do not think so,however it might be playable/good  enough for some.

    I will note that every time i think of impossibilities,i think back to Carmack,he pretty much made Quake himself,although this guy is no Carmack,some good things can come from small teams.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • Charlie.CheswickCharlie.Cheswick Member UncommonPosts: 469
    LynxJSA said:
    Charlie.Cheswick said:
    Everyone is on the offensive these days. Makes for a boring read of posts in otherwise neutral threads.

    Neutral? One look at his post history tells anyone with half a brain that he's a shill. Like his entry in this thread.

    I was speaking in general terms about all threads. I should have been more clear, I suppose.

    Thanks for keeping the offense going though. We need more of it.
    -Chuckles
  • Superman0XSuperman0X Member RarePosts: 2,292
    blutigfaust said:
    Did they fail to grease the palms of MMORPG employees? Or is it because they are a indie game? I've seen them advertised here before, but I guess when payments stop, so does their mention.  It was at top spot in steam greenlight, so thought it would be mention worthy of a site that claims to be about MMOs
    I believe that this developers previous game had legal issues, and had to be pulled. It looks like they are being more cautious with this one.
  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    Ozmodan said:
    Huh? It is not even close to a SWG design.  This is a straight pvp game that will never amount to much at all because pvpers for some reason don't support these games.   I might give it a look when it is released, but it has a long way to go at the moment.
    That's because PVPers want PVP (and good PVP.)

    So-called "PVP MMORPGs" aren't really about PVP most of the time (you spend far more time out of PVP than in it.)

    They also have bad PVP (decided by non-skill factors like population and progression.)

    If you want to attract PVPers, you make a game about PVP, which has good PVP.  (ie you don't make an MMORPG.)

    "What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver

  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Out of curiosity, how does a game get listed on this site? Do they just look for games with promise and hype and make a judgement call?

    My game is nowhere near ready to be listed anywhere, I'm just wondering.
    @khanstruct , this should help: 
    http://www.mmorpg.com/faq.cfm/showFaq/4/I-think-there-is-a-game-that-needs-to-be-added-to-your-list-How-do-I-submit-this.html

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Axehilt said:
    Ozmodan said:
    Huh? It is not even close to a SWG design.  This is a straight pvp game that will never amount to much at all because pvpers for some reason don't support these games.   I might give it a look when it is released, but it has a long way to go at the moment.
    That's because PVPers want PVP (and good PVP.)

    So-called "PVP MMORPGs" aren't really about PVP most of the time (you spend far more time out of PVP than in it.)

    They also have bad PVP (decided by non-skill factors like population and progression.)

    If you want to attract PVPers, you make a game about PVP, which has good PVP.  (ie you don't make an MMORPG.)
    Yeh .. there are plenty of good pvp games ... just look at MOBAs, online shooters, and all the e-sports games.

    You don't need a MMORPG to have pvp. 
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