when the beta pre order goes up, then ill be worried. hehe
but yep, no reason not to think this wont go the same way. just dont go screaming vaporware everywhere, keep it to yourself or youll end up looking like an idiot (especially if/when it comes out), aka that tsr kid.
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Yeah it works both ways tbh. No one can say this game will definately be a sucess, but no one can say this game will definately be a flop either. Also, you can't say "Well, this game and this game failed so Darkfall probably will too since it has roughly the same size team/amount of media exposure. Unless one of the games is from the same devs that tried 'failed project x' no one can really judge them since they will have completely different people, different budget and different circumstances.
Personally I have faith for the 2 major factors of sucess.
1st, this game seems to be very well made, one look at the recent video shows the production values exsist. The game is also made by MMO veterans and tailored to PvP/UO fanatics with an already well established potential player base via the official forums.
2nd, the game has the funding to go all the way. Contrary to what some idiots might believe, Adventurine IS a real company and sponsor. They already support a Greek (I think) rally team and have obviously had the money to support DF for the past 3 years without rushing them.
Of course this isn't to say it has no chance, I'm just surprised that people hold no interest simply because they think it wont survive. Ah well, I guess it's a good way to cope until beta, then you can come out of the dark and say "Oh yeah! I never lost faith for a second!"
Originally posted by APEist when the beta pre order goes up, then ill be worried. hehe
Yep, that's my "oh, snap." point too. When they start trying to extort money out of people in exchange for beta slots, then I shall begin getting nervous. :P
Still, regarding DnL and Mourning...I dunno, but I could tell from miles away that they were not going to end well. Which is why I didn't buy into either of them - I read over them both, checked the forums, rummaged around a bit, and got a distinct impression of "yeah, this is pretty much doomed". And hey, look at them now! They ARE doomed, too.
I don't get that tangible feeling of inevitable failure with Darkfall.
[quote]Originally posted by Teth Still, regarding DnL and Mourning...I dunno, but I could tell from miles away that they were not going to end well. Which is why I didn't buy into either of them - I read over them both, checked the forums, rummaged around a bit, and got a distinct impression of "yeah, this is pretty much doomed". And hey, look at them now! They ARE doomed, too.
I don't get that tangible feeling of inevitable failure with Darkfall. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, heh, DnL and mourning never looked any good at all, dont know why they had so many fans. No restrictions and exciting fastpaced/fluid pvp - are the two main traits I look for in a mmorpg. DnL had some nice landscape with their leased big world engine, and mourning never ever looked good imo, I saw some fighting animations early on, and those looked terrible.
DF on the other hand, oh man, right from the beginning in 2001 when i first heard about their game, and read up on it - i have had a feeling these guys wanted to do it right - no compromises.
And with every interview, every statement from Claus and team, I just get more and more reinstated, that these guys are making my dream game. Seems they have almost exactly the same mindset as me, when it comes to how a mmorpg should be done.
Yep, that's my "oh, snap." point too. When they start trying to extort money out of people in exchange for beta slots, then I shall begin getting nervous. :P
well what do we have here , a dancing monkey and a dumb one at that. ANYONE who says Darkfall looked better than either mourning or DnL needs to go get their heads examined. Either one of those games looked way better and still actually do.. At least they actually showed progress during their developments and still have 10 times better looking engines. Darkfall seems like it hasn't moved an inch from the last 4 years it's been around. They release Q&a's that say nothing new once every 6 months... now darkfall releases a video after 4 years that looks like an early alpha..
the funny part is I bet you anything that both dnl and age of mourning (new name and investors) will both finish up and launch decent games before darkfall even sees any kinda public beta.
Originally posted by tsr57 "and mourning never ever looked good imo" well what do we have here , a dancing monkey and a dumb one at that. ANYONE who says Darkfall looked better than either mourning or DnL needs to go get their heads examined. Either one of those games looked way better and still actually do.. At least they actually showed progress during their developments and still have 10 times better looking engines. Darkfall seems like it hasn't moved an inch from the last 4 years it's been around. They release Q&a's that say nothing new once every 6 months... now darkfall releases a video after 4 years that looks likenothing but an ealy alpha.. get real lol
More like you have no idea what your talking about.
Every thread you post how mourning is the next big thing and darkfall is vapor blah blah blah. Mourning looks like shit. The graphics are worse, the concept flawed (open pvp with no consequence?) and they took preorders just like DnL cause they have no funding.Seems like they are possibly ripping off their potential playerbase.
That being said, take a look at how much information was released in february relative to the past and you can see Darkfall is progressing fine and will be in beta soon. You can cling to your release dates for DnL and Mourning cause they will never see the light of day. DF on the other hand is funded extremely well in comparison. Hell tsr you should have learned by now, how many times have you claimed DF has no backing and its all fake, well now that is coming back to bite you in the ass. They even sponsor rally cars in Greece. Not only have they released screens/interviews and a video this month, they also released pictures of their new office, which shows they definatly have funds. It is not some basement prject (mourning anyone?). These guys know what they are doing and are going to deliver. You probably will love the game but be to embaressed to go near it. Better for us.
You can cling to DnL and Mourning all you want, infact all go as far as to call you a mourning fanboi who is clinging directly onto vapor. DF will plow both games in terms of gameplay, pvp and player base.
Since that scares you so much, continue to flame you dipshit troll.
and as far as I know age of mourning has a Fame system and law system that tracks PvP. At least next time don't make it so easy to make you look stupid.
I always see people bitching about Darkfall taking too long to develop its own engine and server tech. Its kind of funny because they seem to be taking about the same ammount of time the other dev houses have that have done this sucsesfully. The ones that did it faster all failed.
All the big players in this genre started from scratch. They all spent several years developing the tech to build thier games on. Then they made the game for a few more. Those that did not like Codemasters with DE, The Mourning incident with those scaming buttholes, Wish, D&L. Those games all had one thing in common. They opened up a beta and tired to test a game before they made a stable environment for it to opperate in.
Dakfall does not have a timeframe for development. They have stated they work off milestones. When they reach a predetermined point of developemnt they go on to the next. I am very impressed at how much game is complete as shown by the video. NO way in hell those other failed games ever got this close to that level of completeness and they were in public beta already!
Darkfall is clearly going to go gold and with alot less pain then SB, Horizons or DOAC had.
The problem with your statement is that DAoC had very few launch issues, in fact it boggles the mind how you are even putting them in the same sentence with SB and Horizons.
and as far as I know age of mourning has a Fame system and law system that tracks PvP.At least next time don't make it so easy to make you look stupid. pick one of these: www.ageofconan.com www.ageofmourning.com www.darkandlight.com cause they'll be launched long before darkfall gets canned.
Let me straighten up this frist.
No one said that it looks better than anything, they said that it looks better than Mourning does.
Your talk is bull shit.
At first, that screen shot is from 2002 or 2001 version of the game, wich didn't have very good graphics. The new version has decent graphics.
Dark and Light has a very heavy game engine wich is hard to run smoothly even with the best setup on the market today. Dark and Light made people buy the beta/SoG places for 60 bucks and SoG was a complete disaster, a place wich they made up to get funds to keep doing the game. This game has a few other troubles also, wich I don't obviously know about, because I'm not very into this game and haven't played it.
Mourning.. This has just horrible graphics, servers couldn't keep up with even like 20 people at the same time playing, so they were down all the time, or everything just was deserted. The servers were hosted by a porn site hoster. The devs liked to do ban fests and clear up the whole bulletin boards. Mourning sold some second hand "beta" discs to people so they could fund their project. I'm not sure are they even doing Mourning now-a-days, because their main site is a porn site now.
Problems haven't yet occured on Darkfall, and I hope there won't. The devs are extremely good also in my opinion.
Two games wich I trust are: Pirates of the Burning Sea and Darkfall
Originally posted by Denmar The problem with your statement is that DAoC had very few launch issues, in fact it boggles the mind how you are even putting them in the same sentence with SB and Horizons.
when doac launched it was empty. Frontiers were not implimented at all. Loot tables for many dungeons were not done. Horses were totaly screwed up. Many dungeons and zones were totaly empty. There were huge class imbalances. Iseues like no line of sight and gaping world holes you could fall into were still ingame months after release. The game was very incomplete at launch. It was stable but only a shell of a game. Thats why I included it in the sucsesfull releases like HZ and SB.
And that s the standard we set as a good release for mmo's
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when the beta pre order goes up, then ill be worried. hehe
but yep, no reason not to think this wont go the same way. just dont go screaming vaporware everywhere, keep it to yourself or youll end up looking like an idiot (especially if/when it comes out), aka that tsr kid.
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The noob formally not known as not being the formally not unkown known APEist; The Stone Cold Killer of Tarq.
Yeah it works both ways tbh.
No one can say this game will definately be a sucess, but no one can say this game will definately be a flop either.
Also, you can't say "Well, this game and this game failed so Darkfall probably will too since it has roughly the same size team/amount of media exposure. Unless one of the games is from the same devs that tried 'failed project x' no one can really judge them since they will have completely different people, different budget and different circumstances.
Personally I have faith for the 2 major factors of sucess.
1st, this game seems to be very well made, one look at the recent video shows the production values exsist. The game is also made by MMO veterans and tailored to PvP/UO fanatics with an already well established potential player base via the official forums.
2nd, the game has the funding to go all the way. Contrary to what some idiots might believe, Adventurine IS a real company and sponsor. They already support a Greek (I think) rally team and have obviously had the money to support DF for the past 3 years without rushing them.
Of course this isn't to say it has no chance, I'm just surprised that people hold no interest simply because they think it wont survive.
Ah well, I guess it's a good way to cope until beta, then you can come out of the dark and say "Oh yeah! I never lost faith for a second!"
Still, regarding DnL and Mourning...I dunno, but I could tell from miles away that they were not going to end well. Which is why I didn't buy into either of them - I read over them both, checked the forums, rummaged around a bit, and got a distinct impression of "yeah, this is pretty much doomed". And hey, look at them now! They ARE doomed, too.
I don't get that tangible feeling of inevitable failure with Darkfall.
It is getting a little bit thard playing the waiting game.
[quote]Originally posted by Teth
Still, regarding DnL and Mourning...I dunno, but I could tell from miles away that they were not going to end well. Which is why I didn't buy into either of them - I read over them both, checked the forums, rummaged around a bit, and got a distinct impression of "yeah, this is pretty much doomed". And hey, look at them now! They ARE doomed, too.
I don't get that tangible feeling of inevitable failure with Darkfall.
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Yeah, heh, DnL and mourning never looked any good at all, dont know why they had so many fans. No restrictions and exciting fastpaced/fluid pvp - are the two main traits I look for in a mmorpg. DnL had some nice landscape with their leased big world engine, and mourning never ever looked good imo, I saw some fighting animations early on, and those looked terrible.
DF on the other hand, oh man, right from the beginning in 2001 when i first heard about their game, and read up on it - i have had a feeling these guys wanted to do it right - no compromises.
And with every interview, every statement from Claus and team, I just get more and more reinstated, that these guys are making my dream game. Seems they have almost exactly the same mindset as me, when it comes to how a mmorpg should be done.
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That will NEVER happen
"and mourning never ever looked good imo"
well what do we have here , a dancing monkey and a dumb one at that. ANYONE who says Darkfall looked better than either mourning or DnL needs to go get their heads examined. Either one of those games looked way better and still actually do.. At least they actually showed progress during their developments and still have 10 times better looking engines. Darkfall seems like it hasn't moved an inch from the last 4 years it's been around. They release Q&a's that say nothing new once every 6 months... now darkfall releases a video after 4 years that looks like an early alpha..
the funny part is I bet you anything that both dnl and age of mourning (new name and investors) will both finish up and launch decent games before darkfall even sees any kinda public beta.
More like you have no idea what your talking about.
Every thread you post how mourning is the next big thing and darkfall is vapor blah blah blah. Mourning looks like shit. The graphics are worse, the concept flawed (open pvp with no consequence?) and they took preorders just like DnL cause they have no funding.Seems like they are possibly ripping off their potential playerbase.
That being said, take a look at how much information was released in february relative to the past and you can see Darkfall is progressing fine and will be in beta soon. You can cling to your release dates for DnL and Mourning cause they will never see the light of day. DF on the other hand is funded extremely well in comparison. Hell tsr you should have learned by now, how many times have you claimed DF has no backing and its all fake, well now that is coming back to bite you in the ass. They even sponsor rally cars in Greece. Not only have they released screens/interviews and a video this month, they also released pictures of their new office, which shows they definatly have funds. It is not some basement prject (mourning anyone?). These guys know what they are doing and are going to deliver. You probably will love the game but be to embaressed to go near it. Better for us.
You can cling to DnL and Mourning all you want, infact all go as far as to call you a mourning fanboi who is clinging directly onto vapor. DF will plow both games in terms of gameplay, pvp and player base.
Since that scares you so much, continue to flame you dipshit troll.
"The graphics are worse"
Oh wait a sec. Let me get this one straight. You think DARKFALL has better graphics than ANYTHING? LOL!!!!!!!!!
http://vaultmedia.ign.com/rpgvault/image/darkfall05112803_1133163059.jpg
I know the people who follow darkfall don't have much sense as it is but i mean c'mon.. lets at least try to be a little REALISTIC here.
http://vaultmedia.ign.com/rpgvault/image/mourning081801_1092811302.jpg
http://vaultmedia.ign.com/rpgvault/image/mourning102002_1098241693.jpg
http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/humanscreens/33.jpg
http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/humanscreens/92.jpg
http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/elfscreens/18.jpg
http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/elfscreens/46.jpg
http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/orcscreens/h11.jpg
and as far as I know age of mourning has a Fame system and law system that tracks PvP.
At least next time don't make it so easy to make you look stupid.
pick one of these:
www.ageofconan.com
www.ageofmourning.com
www.darkandlight.com
cause they'll be launched long before darkfall gets canned.
I always see people bitching about Darkfall taking too long to develop its own engine and server tech. Its kind of funny because they seem to be taking about the same ammount of time the other dev houses have that have done this sucsesfully. The ones that did it faster all failed.
All the big players in this genre started from scratch. They all spent several years developing the tech to build thier games on. Then they made the game for a few more. Those that did not like Codemasters with DE, The Mourning incident with those scaming buttholes, Wish, D&L. Those games all had one thing in common. They opened up a beta and tired to test a game before they made a stable environment for it to opperate in.
Dakfall does not have a timeframe for development. They have stated they work off milestones. When they reach a predetermined point of developemnt they go on to the next. I am very impressed at how much game is complete as shown by the video. NO way in hell those other failed games ever got this close to that level of completeness and they were in public beta already!
Darkfall is clearly going to go gold and with alot less pain then SB, Horizons or DOAC had.
Originally posted by tsr57
"The graphics are worse"
Oh wait a sec. Let me get this one straight. You think DARKFALL has better graphics than ANYTHING? LOL!!!!!!!!!
[url=http://vaultmedia.ign.com/rpgvault/image/darkfall05112803_1133163059.jpg]
I know the people who follow darkfall don't have much sense as it is but i mean c'mon.. lets at least try to be a little REALISTIC here.
[url=http://vaultmedia.ign.com/rpgvault/image/mourning081801_1092811302.jpg]
[url=http://vaultmedia.ign.com/rpgvault/image/mourning102002_1098241693.jpg]
[url=http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/humanscreens/33.jpg]
[url=http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/humanscreens/92.jpg]
[url=http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/elfscreens/18.jpg]
[url=http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/elfscreens/46.jpg]
[url=http://www.ageofmourning.com/screens/orcscreens/h11.jpg]
and as far as I know age of mourning has a Fame system and law system that tracks PvP.At least next time don't make it so easy to make you look stupid.
pick one of these:
www.ageofconan.com
www.ageofmourning.com
www.darkandlight.com
cause they'll be launched long before darkfall gets canned.
Let me straighten up this frist.
No one said that it looks better than anything, they said that it looks better than Mourning does.
Your talk is bull shit.
At first, that screen shot is from 2002 or 2001 version of the game, wich didn't have very good graphics. The new version has decent graphics.
Dark and Light has a very heavy game engine wich is hard to run smoothly even with the best setup on the market today. Dark and Light made people buy the beta/SoG places for 60 bucks and SoG was a complete disaster, a place wich they made up to get funds to keep doing the game. This game has a few other troubles also, wich I don't obviously know about, because I'm not very into this game and haven't played it.
Mourning.. This has just horrible graphics, servers couldn't keep up with even like 20 people at the same time playing, so they were down all the time, or everything just was deserted. The servers were hosted by a porn site hoster. The devs liked to do ban fests and clear up the whole bulletin boards. Mourning sold some second hand "beta" discs to people so they could fund their project. I'm not sure are they even doing Mourning now-a-days, because their main site is a porn site now.
Problems haven't yet occured on Darkfall, and I hope there won't. The devs are extremely good also in my opinion.
Two games wich I trust are: Pirates of the Burning Sea and Darkfall
when doac launched it was empty. Frontiers were not implimented at all. Loot tables for many dungeons were not done. Horses were totaly screwed up. Many dungeons and zones were totaly empty. There were huge class imbalances. Iseues like no line of sight and gaping world holes you could fall into were still ingame months after release. The game was very incomplete at launch. It was stable but only a shell of a game. Thats why I included it in the sucsesfull releases like HZ and SB.
And that s the standard we set as a good release for mmo's
Lol tsr is succeeding in all you guys reacting to him in silly replys.
Tsr is just s forum troll, not wurth to reply to.
But im not intrested in him or many who try put down games like DF there just carebears.
DF grafics im intrested in, how gameplay is and pvp and looks fine to me.
DF is only game at moment im intrested in and wait for it, i hope they take there time so when its released its good verygood.
Most who come to DF forum and try bring it down are prolly those stupid wow dnl evercrap Guildtrash games.
Only those who are truly pvp oriented with game play DF promise stay true and wait.
And the little movie i saw was good enough for me not awsome but good enough as long gameplay good grafics are not why i going to play DF.
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