I'm actually okay with the companion nerf. Yeah it made things easier, but good grief,I was rolling through stuff on anything that wasn't max level. Even at max level we were killing really fast. I barely got through my 3 or 4 skills.
How in earth can you be okay with the current nerf?
The companions are worst now than they have ever been since 1.0 at launch.
Maybe if you are in full high end Raid gear and/or (un)intentionally exploit the Main hand weapon bug, I guess you could care less.
But you have to understand that the vast majority of the playerbase is not running around in Raid gear, nor has millions of credits to twink their ALT's during leveling! /shrug
And you also okay now that a rank 50 companion is hardly better than a rank 10? /Facepalm
They put so much work in 4.0 and it was a great update! Loads of people came back and had a blast leveling again! Finally the tedium was gone due to more powerful companions!
And then with one fell swoop, they broke everything and nerfed everything into the ground with 4.0.2! Undoing all their work for 4.0! /Shrug
No one was denying companions were a tad OP, but not THAT OP as some of you claim and were crying and spamming the forums about for a month!
They just had to be toned down a little and that was that! Not a whopping 75 - 80% Sledgehammer! /FACEPALM
I'm suprised how many people were using their companions for healing. Perhaps because my main is a tank juggernaut I didn't bother getting into that habit. Obviously I used companions for DPS on that character. But started playing my dps alts with tank companions and no issues. Either way I just didn't need healing during fights, just use my out of combat heals to top up between. Forced me to be better.
They brought all this upon themselves. If they had a test server and actually did some testing before they released it none of this would have happened. I like the story part of the expansion but they managed to screw up crafting and companions.
So what about solo players getting shafted? As a healer am I going to be incapable, or at least heavily restricted, from doing content if I go back to the game?
If so, forget it. Was bad enough as it is with the specialization crap they took wholesale from WoW that ruined hyrbrid, aka solo, builds, which all my characters were.
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Yes the companions were nerfed. Yes you can still faceroll things. Companions are still way way way tougher than the were before they became godlike. Tank companions only take a little bit of damage now when going after heroic bosses, 2 days ago they didn't take anything.
So don't worry, they were so overpowered before it wasn't even funny. Now they are just demi-god overpowered.
And no I'm not raid geared. I restarted just for 4.0. I craft all my own gear, implants, weapons and ear pieces and practically never group. Heroics are done solo.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
Extremely amateur to nerf companions so hardcore after they had just tweaked them to be so powerful. WTF are these guys doing? They have no idea, and this is proof.
May be its a publicity stunt, but they should have fixed it sooner. Its been like this for too long as really drastically changed comps until next patch, which supports that it is intentional and meant to be playable and enjoyable.
I would be surprised if they did not undo it this tuesday.
When they create a precedent of how companions play for 4 expansions, you can not simply change it over night. Also no systems to better support that change. Just change.
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VengeSunsoar said: Yes the companions were nerfed. Yes you can still faceroll things. Companions are still way way way tougher than the were before they became godlike. Tank companions only take a little bit of damage now when going after heroic bosses, 2 days ago they didn't take anything.
So don't worry, they were so overpowered before it wasn't even funny. Now they are just demi-god overpowered.
And no I'm not raid geared. I restarted just for 4.0. I craft all my own gear, implants, weapons and ear pieces and practically never group. Heroics are done solo.
They're hardly "way, way tougher than they were before they became godlike". In 3.0 and before you could basically let your companions solo champion mobs on the low levels if you had the presence bonus, now they can hardly compete with a single elite on that level.
Unless you immediately go nuts with gifts and spend a few hours feeding those to get them to rank 50 I suppose, which no new player has the money to do, nor the patience I imagine since it's mindnumbingly dull. And that's not even counting the fact that those same players don't have the massive presence bonus that Legendary (veteran) ones have. So I can imagine things sucking quite a bit for them at the moment.
So yes, they actually did nerf them to the point where they are weaker than pre-4.0. It doesn't go for all of them though, in tank mode they seem more decent now, it was mostly DPS and Heals that got obliterated.
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Companions with the nerf are worst since launch. Healer companion cant pull more ehps than DPS class self healing. Its like its not there.Just dismiss it and you wont even notice.
Tank stance has 0 defences. So its just really bad DPS.
The only one semi viable is DPS stance. And even that is much worse than 3.0
So theyre buffing at least healing considerably on tuesday. But IMO they lost A LOT of goodwill they got for KOTFE. And yes, its their own fault.
Ones touting that its great now - dismiss your companion in the future or stop whining "its to easy"
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Players complaining in SWTOR about their companions being nerfed so they are not untouchable gods. Thats were we are now, npcs are not allowed to inconvenience players. :D
The companions were WAY WAY WAY too strong. Why don't we all just do an instant /65 command and spawn max level characters? Since when has the MMO genre turned into a bunch of whining, antisocial pansies? Pantheon cannot come soon enough.
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MMOs are increasingly becoming about eastern games because the west does not want to make anything other than F2P tinyMMOs.
Players complaining in SWTOR about their companions being nerfed so they are not untouchable gods. Thats were we are now, npcs are not allowed to inconvenience players.
In a game designed based on player gaining level to increase power, low level mob are not allowed to bother players. Imagine you are level 110 demon hunter in WoW and you go to level 50 area and get killed by a level 50 elite, sounds fun? No it is not, that is what happening in swtor, swtor open world is balanced around player power+ companion power, when they decided to add level gimp for players it created controversy, so the devs assured players that they are buffing companion in a way that we will not be powerless in doing things that we used to do with our eyes closed before the 4.0. With 4.0,2 they turned back from that statement and made companions so messed up that we players who used to solo many low level stuff now dying there because not only that we are gimped but also our companion is worthless. It has nothing to do with "challenge", companion nerf or player gimping suddenly did not make mobs intelligent, they are still the same mob doing same damage but we players are gimped, it is not challenge, it is nonsense.
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The companions were WAY WAY WAY too strong. Why don't we all just do an instant /65 command and spawn max level characters? Since when has the MMO genre turned into a bunch of whining, antisocial pansies? Pantheon cannot come soon enough.
Meh, I dropped my subs, I get the nerf (Although not to the level at which they implemented it) , but the lack of an announcement by Bioware left me feeling like the company just doesn't give a shit, so I voted with my wallet.
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The companions are worst now than they have ever been since 1.0 at launch.
Maybe if you are in full high end Raid gear and/or (un)intentionally exploit the Main hand weapon bug, I guess you could care less.
But you have to understand that the vast majority of the playerbase is not running around in Raid gear, nor has millions of credits to twink their ALT's during leveling! /shrug
And you also okay now that a rank 50 companion is hardly better than a rank 10? /Facepalm
They put so much work in 4.0 and it was a great update! Loads of people came back and had a blast leveling again! Finally the tedium was gone due to more powerful companions!
And then with one fell swoop, they broke everything and nerfed everything into the ground with 4.0.2! Undoing all their work for 4.0! /Shrug
No one was denying companions were a tad OP, but not THAT OP as some of you claim and were crying and spamming the forums about for a month!
They just had to be toned down a little and that was that! Not a whopping 75 - 80% Sledgehammer! /FACEPALM
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If so, forget it. Was bad enough as it is with the specialization crap they took wholesale from WoW that ruined hyrbrid, aka solo, builds, which all my characters were.
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So don't worry, they were so overpowered before it wasn't even funny. Now they are just demi-god overpowered.
And no I'm not raid geared. I restarted just for 4.0. I craft all my own gear, implants, weapons and ear pieces and practically never group. Heroics are done solo.
I would be surprised if they did not undo it this tuesday.
When they create a precedent of how companions play for 4 expansions, you can not simply change it over night. Also no systems to better support that change. Just change.
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LOL you guys are arguing about a game that died 3 years ago.
LOL IKR
Yes the companions were nerfed. Yes you can still faceroll things. Companions are still way way way tougher than the were before they became godlike. Tank companions only take a little bit of damage now when going after heroic bosses, 2 days ago they didn't take anything.
So don't worry, they were so overpowered before it wasn't even funny. Now they are just demi-god overpowered.
And no I'm not raid geared. I restarted just for 4.0. I craft all my own gear, implants, weapons and ear pieces and practically never group. Heroics are done solo.
They're hardly "way, way tougher than they were before they became godlike". In 3.0 and before you could basically let your companions solo champion mobs on the low levels if you had the presence bonus, now they can hardly compete with a single elite on that level.
Unless you immediately go nuts with gifts and spend a few hours feeding those to get them to rank 50 I suppose, which no new player has the money to do, nor the patience I imagine since it's mindnumbingly dull. And that's not even counting the fact that those same players don't have the massive presence bonus that Legendary (veteran) ones have. So I can imagine things sucking quite a bit for them at the moment.
So yes, they actually did nerf them to the point where they are weaker than pre-4.0. It doesn't go for all of them though, in tank mode they seem more decent now, it was mostly DPS and Heals that got obliterated.
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Tank stance has 0 defences. So its just really bad DPS.
The only one semi viable is DPS stance. And even that is much worse than 3.0
So theyre buffing at least healing considerably on tuesday. But IMO they lost A LOT of goodwill they got for KOTFE. And yes, its their own fault.
Ones touting that its great now - dismiss your companion in the future or stop whining "its to easy"
MMOs are increasingly becoming about eastern games because the west does not want to make anything other than F2P tinyMMOs.
Players complaining in SWTOR about their companions being nerfed so they are not untouchable gods. Thats were we are now, npcs are not allowed to inconvenience players. :D
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The companions were WAY WAY WAY too strong. Why don't we all just do an instant /65 command and spawn max level characters? Since when has the MMO genre turned into a bunch of whining, antisocial pansies? Pantheon cannot come soon enough.
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