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MMOFTW - The Great SWTOR Companion Nerf

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edited November 2015 in Videos Discussion

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  • Elevenb4Elevenb4 Member UncommonPosts: 362
    I'm actually okay with the companion nerf. Yeah it made things easier, but good grief,I was rolling through stuff on anything that wasn't max level. Even at max level we were killing really fast. I barely got through my 3 or 4 skills.

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  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    How in earth can you be okay with the current nerf?

    The companions are worst now than they have ever been since 1.0 at launch.

    Maybe if you are in full high end Raid gear and/or (un)intentionally exploit the Main hand weapon bug, I guess you could care less.

    But you have to understand that the vast majority of the playerbase is not running around in Raid gear, nor has millions of credits to twink their ALT's during leveling! /shrug

    And you also okay now that a rank 50 companion is hardly better than a rank 10? /Facepalm

    They put so much work in 4.0 and it was a great update! Loads of people came back and had a blast leveling again! Finally the tedium was gone due to more powerful companions!

    And then with one fell swoop, they broke everything and nerfed everything into the ground with 4.0.2! Undoing all their work for 4.0! /Shrug

    No one was denying companions were a tad OP, but not THAT OP as some of you claim and were crying and spamming the forums about for a month!

    They just had to be toned down a little and that was that! Not a whopping 75 - 80% Sledgehammer! /FACEPALM
  • Walkyier70Walkyier70 Member UncommonPosts: 67
    they need to pull their heads directly out of their asses . they have butchered this game to the point of no return .
  • unfilteredJWunfilteredJW Member RarePosts: 398
    Top it off with lag due to corpses not despawning. A lot of the good will the received post KotFE is now in the dumpster.

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  • modusmodus Member UncommonPosts: 69
    I'm suprised how many people were using their companions for healing. Perhaps because my main is a tank juggernaut I didn't bother getting into that habit. Obviously I used companions for DPS on that character. But started playing my dps alts with tank companions and no issues. Either way I just didn't need healing during fights, just use my out of combat heals to top up between. Forced me to be better.
  • MaurgrimMaurgrim Member RarePosts: 1,331
    I dont have any raid gears on my juggernaut, i can do heroics fine, Just dont pull to many mobs.
  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied Member UncommonPosts: 2,193
    edited November 2015
    SWTOR players are 100% dependent on their companions to keep them from biting the dust? Rek't
  • ThebeastttThebeasttt Member RarePosts: 1,130
    Scarlet Blade & Soul is coming along nicely.
  • BeyornBeyorn Member UncommonPosts: 372
    They brought all this upon themselves. If they had a test server and actually did some testing before they released it none of this would have happened. I like the story part of the expansion but they managed to screw up crafting and companions.
  • ZarriyaZarriya Member UncommonPosts: 446
    edited November 2015
    I feel the companion nerf was appropriate. Pre nerf my companion had almost twice my health. I am not raid-geared.
  • DAOWAceDAOWAce Member UncommonPosts: 436
    So what about solo players getting shafted? As a healer am I going to be incapable, or at least heavily restricted, from doing content if I go back to the game?

    If so, forget it. Was bad enough as it is with the specialization crap they took wholesale from WoW that ruined hyrbrid, aka solo, builds, which all my characters were.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    They were OP and needed to be nerfed. /end discussion
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  • ZigZagsZigZags Member UncommonPosts: 381
    LOL you guys are arguing about a game that died 3 years ago.

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  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601
    Yes the companions were nerfed. Yes you can still faceroll things. Companions are still way way way tougher than the were before they became godlike. Tank companions only take a little bit of damage now when going after heroic bosses, 2 days ago they didn't take anything.

    So don't worry, they were so overpowered before it wasn't even funny. Now they are just demi-god overpowered.

    And no I'm not raid geared. I restarted just for 4.0. I craft all my own gear, implants, weapons and ear pieces and practically never group. Heroics are done solo.
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  • GolelornGolelorn Member RarePosts: 1,395
    Extremely amateur to nerf companions so hardcore after they had just tweaked them to be so powerful. WTF are these guys doing? They have no idea, and this is proof.
  • IncomparableIncomparable Member UncommonPosts: 1,138
    edited November 2015
    May be its a publicity stunt, but they should have fixed it sooner. Its been like this for too long as really drastically changed comps until next patch, which supports that it is intentional and meant to be playable and enjoyable.

    I would be surprised if they did not undo it this tuesday.

    When they create a precedent of how companions play for 4 expansions, you can not simply change it over night. Also no systems to better support that change. Just change.

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  • Acebets70Acebets70 Member UncommonPosts: 269
    ZigZags said:
    LOL you guys are arguing about a game that died 3 years ago.


    LOL IKR
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    edited November 2015
    VengeSunsoar said:
    Yes the companions were nerfed. Yes you can still faceroll things. Companions are still way way way tougher than the were before they became godlike. Tank companions only take a little bit of damage now when going after heroic bosses, 2 days ago they didn't take anything.

    So don't worry, they were so overpowered before it wasn't even funny. Now they are just demi-god overpowered.

    And no I'm not raid geared. I restarted just for 4.0. I craft all my own gear, implants, weapons and ear pieces and practically never group. Heroics are done solo.




    They're hardly "way, way tougher than they were before they became godlike". In 3.0 and before you could basically let your companions solo champion mobs on the low levels if you had the presence bonus, now they can hardly compete with a single elite on that level.

    Unless you immediately go nuts with gifts and spend a few hours feeding those to get them to rank 50 I suppose, which no new player has the money to do, nor the patience I imagine since it's mindnumbingly dull. And that's not even counting the fact that those same players don't have the massive presence bonus that Legendary (veteran) ones have. So I can imagine things sucking quite a bit for them at the moment.

    So yes, they actually did nerf them to the point where they are weaker than pre-4.0. It doesn't go for all of them though, in tank mode they seem more decent now, it was mostly DPS and Heals that got obliterated.

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  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited November 2015
    Companions with the nerf are worst since launch. Healer companion cant pull more ehps than DPS class self healing. Its like its not there.Just dismiss it and you wont even notice.

    Tank stance has 0 defences. So its just really bad DPS.

    The only one semi viable is DPS stance. And even that is much worse than 3.0

    So theyre buffing at least healing considerably on tuesday. But IMO they lost A LOT of goodwill they got for KOTFE. And yes, its their own fault.

    Ones touting that its great now - dismiss your companion in the future or stop whining "its to easy"
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,439
    Can't even access MMOFTW without clicking past an advert now. Sigh.
    MMOs are increasingly becoming about eastern games because the west does not want to make anything other than F2P tinyMMOs.
    Players complaining in SWTOR about their companions being nerfed so they are not untouchable gods. Thats were we are now, npcs are not allowed to inconvenience players. :D
  • AzmodeusAzmodeus Member UncommonPosts: 268
    The companions were WAY WAY WAY too strong. Why don't we all just do an instant /65 command and spawn max level characters? Since when has the MMO genre turned into a bunch of whining, antisocial pansies? Pantheon cannot come soon enough.
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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Scot said:
    Can't even access MMOFTW without clicking past an advert now. Sigh.
    MMOs are increasingly becoming about eastern games because the west does not want to make anything other than F2P tinyMMOs.
    Players complaining in SWTOR about their companions being nerfed so they are not untouchable gods. Thats were we are now, npcs are not allowed to inconvenience players. :D
    In a game designed based on player gaining level to increase power, low level mob are not allowed to bother players. Imagine you are  level 110 demon hunter in WoW and you go to level 50 area and get killed by a level 50 elite, sounds fun? No it is not, that is what happening in swtor, swtor open world is balanced around player power+ companion power, when they decided to add level gimp for players it created controversy, so the devs assured players  that they are buffing companion in a way that we will not be powerless in doing things that we used to do with our eyes closed before the 4.0. With 4.0,2 they turned back from that statement and made companions so messed up that we players who used to solo many low level stuff now dying there because not only that we are gimped but also our companion is worthless. It has nothing to do with "challenge", companion nerf or player gimping suddenly did not make mobs intelligent, they are still the same mob doing same damage but we players are gimped, it is not challenge, it is nonsense.

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  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    Azmodeus said:
    The companions were WAY WAY WAY too strong. Why don't we all just do an instant /65 command and spawn max level characters? Since when has the MMO genre turned into a bunch of whining, antisocial pansies? Pantheon cannot come soon enough.


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  • StormNetStormNet Member UncommonPosts: 31
    Meh, I dropped my subs, I get the nerf (Although not to the level at which they implemented it) , but the lack of an announcement by Bioware left me feeling like the company just doesn't give a shit, so I voted with my wallet.
  • mayito7777mayito7777 Member UncommonPosts: 768
    I am glad I quit playing this game.

    want 7 free days of playing? Try this

    http://www.swtor.com/r/ZptVnY

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