This will show up for users who are not whitelisting the site in AdBlock. Many users of AdBlock aren't actually aware they can whitelist sites even if they were inclined to do so and this results in a significant amount of lost revenue for us.
As a sort of middle ground, we are employing some unobtrusive ads that can be blocked manually if the user desires. AdBlocking has become enough of an issue for us that something had to be done, and this was the most user friendly option available to us.
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I don't have that issue, I seem to have an issue getting to my new profile off of the home page for the site. I have to be in a thread to see it how it should be.
I don't have that issue, I seem to have an issue getting to my new profile off of the home page for the site. I have to be in a thread to see it how it should be.
There are two separate profile areas at the moment. You need to be at forums.mmorpg.com to get into your forum profile.
Please tell me you are just testing something here.
@Volgore ;Yes we are testing something out. These are text based ads that AdBlock users will see when visiting the site where they would normally see no ads = lost revenue. These are game related and our stats show that most adblock users surf blindly around the internet viewing little to no advertising which is justified in a lot of cases. In our case though we have always maintained that our ads would be video game related and potentially interesting to our users.
I understand if you don't like flash ads but our ad standards of no flyouts, pop ups, pop unders or ads with sound without user initiation are very fair and relatively non intrusive. If you run adblock now you see some images and text ads. All static and not flashy. Can you still block them if you want? Sure, but at least this gives us an opportunity to potentially interest a lot of first time users visiting the site running adblock in playing a game that could put some coin in our pockets and keep the lights on, the staff paid etc etc.
@Meddle but that testing realy bleeped the site somwhat bc i cant read any articles anymore without deactivating ABP, and no im not white listing any sites with it.
@Boudewijns I run adblock on the site pretty much every day as a test to make sure all is running as expected and have no issues with being able to read articles. If you can provide more information as to how you're being prevented from reading articles I'd be happy to look into your issue and find a solution.
Please tell me you are just testing something here.
@Volgore ;Yes we are testing something out. These are text based ads that AdBlock users will see when visiting the site where they would normally see no ads = lost revenue. These are game related and our stats show that most adblock users surf blindly around the internet viewing little to no advertising which is justified in a lot of cases. In our case though we have always maintained that our ads would be video game related and potentially interesting to our users.
I understand if you don't like flash ads but our ad standards of no flyouts, pop ups, pop unders or ads with sound without user initiation are very fair and relatively non intrusive. If you run adblock now you see some images and text ads. All static and not flashy. Can you still block them if you want? Sure, but at least this gives us an opportunity to potentially interest a lot of first time users visiting the site running adblock in playing a game that could put some coin in our pockets and keep the lights on, the staff paid etc etc.
But you have had issues in the past where things started installing on peoples systems. At the time you guys said it was one of the advertisers who did this. You have to understand that is part of the history of this site. You can't blame anyone from trying to protect themselves.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
But I also really, really, really hate advertising when it goes overboard. I regret I haven't found a way for Adblock to block the watermark ad (yet). I avoid the main page almost entirely and just jump straight to the forums anymore.
I'd have no problem throwing a few dollars at the site if there was an option to turn off the ads, or if there was some premium forum or service the site offered that would be worthwhile (HardOCP most of the forums are free, but there are a few "premium-only" forums for paid users only and it seems to work for them). I find the forums just about as entertaining as most MMOs.
Specifically targeting people using Ad Block with even more ads. Really. I seem to recall almost this exact same discussion sometime fairly recently too...
If you guys want to get paid, come up with a better model. More ads is a shitty solution that not many people like.
@Meddle ; So far i know i can only access the main page and forum page all other pages when i try to access it doesnt show up for some reason, dont ask me how im not a softwareneer ^^ (i know sounds stupid) cant even see the game list section when ABP is on, wierd he
Just use NoScript if you use Firefox. It can stop all of the scripts from the other domains that are embedded in the website.. like the following (NoScript found those on the homepage):
many of which track your browsing when you are not even on the mmorpg.com website.
Also quantserve.com is in there and those are the guys that were aparently using flash to reset tracking cookies after users had deleted them.
It looks like udmserve.net is one of those tracking companies, but a search for them in google leaves some pretty scary results about adware.
Rydelynn mentioned a premium option.. Have you guys considered that? I understand you all need to make money ... but I'm not going to allow those other websites' scripts to track me and potentially install harmful things on my computer.
I regret I haven't found a way for Adblock to block the watermark ad (yet). I avoid the main page almost entirely and just jump straight to the forums anymore.
I'm using a tiny but extremely useful addon for AdBlockPlus with the name "Element Hiding Helper". With it you can easily select specific elements like columns, blocks, pictures etc. on any page and hide them.
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As a sort of middle ground, we are employing some unobtrusive ads that can be blocked manually if the user desires. AdBlocking has become enough of an issue for us that something had to be done, and this was the most user friendly option available to us.
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I understand if you don't like flash ads but our ad standards of no flyouts, pop ups, pop unders or ads with sound without user initiation are very fair and relatively non intrusive. If you run adblock now you see some images and text ads. All static and not flashy. Can you still block them if you want? Sure, but at least this gives us an opportunity to potentially interest a lot of first time users visiting the site running adblock in playing a game that could put some coin in our pockets and keep the lights on, the staff paid etc etc.
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But you have had issues in the past where things started installing on peoples systems. At the time you guys said it was one of the advertisers who did this. You have to understand that is part of the history of this site. You can't blame anyone from trying to protect themselves.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
You can't expect to use services for free....
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
But I also really, really, really hate advertising when it goes overboard. I regret I haven't found a way for Adblock to block the watermark ad (yet). I avoid the main page almost entirely and just jump straight to the forums anymore.
I'd have no problem throwing a few dollars at the site if there was an option to turn off the ads, or if there was some premium forum or service the site offered that would be worthwhile (HardOCP most of the forums are free, but there are a few "premium-only" forums for paid users only and it seems to work for them). I find the forums just about as entertaining as most MMOs.
Specifically targeting people using Ad Block with even more ads. Really. I seem to recall almost this exact same discussion sometime fairly recently too...
If you guys want to get paid, come up with a better model. More ads is a shitty solution that not many people like.
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cant even see the game list section when ABP is on, wierd he
crsspxl.com
skimresources.com
udmserve.net
aolcdn.com
coull.com
quantserve.com
slingpic.com
petametrics.com
doubleclick.net
many of which track your browsing when you are not even on the mmorpg.com website.
Also quantserve.com is in there and those are the guys that were aparently using flash to reset tracking cookies after users had deleted them.
It looks like udmserve.net is one of those tracking companies, but a search for them in google leaves some pretty scary results about adware.
Rydelynn mentioned a premium option.. Have you guys considered that? I understand you all need to make money ... but I'm not going to allow those other websites' scripts to track me and potentially install harmful things on my computer.
While its fair enuff you guys add gamerelated stuff in adds, we live in times of total milking.
With it you can easily select specific elements like columns, blocks, pictures etc. on any page and hide them.
This site carries metric shyteloads of feature bloat.
P.S. skip right past the front page, and everyone's life will be far more pleasant.