The death of ESO - PvP

ESO_LAG · November 2015

Every patch the game is getting worse and here are just a few reasons why a majority of the PvP community has left:

The horrible lag, broken cc system, ability bars locking up, aoe caps decision, and the worst of them all is the complete lack of communication from ZOS or care about the PvP side.

They had a poll on the ESO official forums regarding the aoe caps.

500 voted for it
3,000+ voted against it

Zenimax made the decision to make the change and ignore the player base. The result almost every major guild left the game and now the servers can't handle everyone stacking as a ball group to get heals because of the aoe caps.

The game is unplayable 50% of the day.

Welcome to ESO!

polki · November 2015

true story, sad story

ste2000 · November 2015

Devs always know best

ESO_LAG · November 2015

Ignorance must be bliss!

Shadanwolf · November 2015

I bought the game for the AVA (alliance vs alliance). I regret every penny I spent on the game.

Johnxboy · November 2015

I'm so happy I refunded it last month. Even with it being like 20$ because of black friday wasn't worth it.

Margrave · November 2015

I still love it.

But I'm a pve player. It rocks for my play-style.

Mikeha · November 2015

People still play this game?

bcbully · November 2015

Lots a mis-info here, but hey what are you gonna do?

ESO_LAG · November 2015

bcbully said:

Lots a mis-info here, but hey what are you gonna do?

Anyone can log in to PvP and see the issues for themselves. I can link the ESO forum post regarding AOE caps also.

All this information is all over a majority of the forums on the ESO website complaining about these issues and ZOS loves to delete them! Also watch all the recent ESO Podcast by Sypher, Fengrush, Lefty Lucy, and King Richard talking about this.

ESO_LAG · November 2015

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/88049/do-you-think-there-should-be-an-aoe-cap/p1

filmoret · November 2015

Yea I have a hard time believing this OP. [mod edit] Need someone to verify this, well I tell you what ill log in right now and confirm it myself.

ESO_LAG · November 2015

filmoret said:

Yea I have a hard time believing this OP.[mod edit] Need someone to verify this, well I tell you what ill log in right now and confirm it myself.

Please log into NA - PC Azuras star during prime time, find the zerg, and try killing players.

10 FPS and 500+ ping

Viper482 · November 2015

filmoret said:

Yea I have a hard time believing this OP. [mod edit] Need someone to verify this, well I tell you what ill log in right now and confirm it myself.

Perhaps you should have logged in before insulting him.

Brenics · November 2015

Dev's don't care, but they have been around a little more after they banned me for laying out all they are doing wrong in the PR department. So I take a little credit for them doing a little better PR but the way they are am sure it won't last. The game could of been so great but I know two ways they went wrong, megaserver and going B2P.

I know I have been happier leaving the game but I have to say it would be great if they make some better decisions and actually fix the game. Still believe with the right people the game could of given WoW a run for their money. Just 2 RP servers would of been huge for them but only like I stated if they fixed all the issues and bugs in the game. This game wasn't made for megaservers and it has hurt PvP.

But sad part is it could be too late, lot of people have left and will never come back, we gamer's tend to be like that. Maybe they should just make it a single player game without online.

bcbully · November 2015

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

Lots a mis-info here, but hey what are you gonna do?

Anyone can log in to PvP and see the issues for themselves. I can link the ESO forum post regarding AOE caps also.

All this information is all over a majority of the forums on the ESO website complaining about these issues and ZOS loves to delete them! Also watch all the recent ESO Podcast by Sypher, Fengrush, Lefty Lucy, and King Richard talking about this.

What you are saying is not contextually accurate. Yes there is lag, horrible latency lag. It happens about 2-3 hours out the day when campaigns are full.

AoE caps are an issue. The cap is set at 60. For comparison, ESO's only competition in the AvAvA/WvWvW market, GW2 has their cap set at 5.

Communication is far beyond what i've experienced form other mmorpg developers such as Blizzard. The lead PvP dev Brian Wheeler comments in several community started threads per week. Heck there is even a Dev started thread about AoE caps and options.

The other stuff you mentioned is kinda like your opinion man.
So are there issues? Yes, ESO is not perfect. Like democracy, ESO just better than the other options at the moment.

ESO_LAG · November 2015

bcbully said:

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

Lots a mis-info here, but hey what are you gonna do?

Anyone can log in to PvP and see the issues for themselves. I can link the ESO forum post regarding AOE caps also.

All this information is all over a majority of the forums on the ESO website complaining about these issues and ZOS loves to delete them! Also watch all the recent ESO Podcast by Sypher, Fengrush, Lefty Lucy, and King Richard talking about this.

What you are saying is not contextually accurate. Yes there is lag, horrible latency lag. It happens about 2-3 hours out the day when campaigns are full.

AoE caps are an issue. The cap is set at 60. For comparison, ESO's only competition in the AvAvA/WvWvW market, GW2 has their cap set at 5.

Communication is far beyond what i've experienced form other mmorpg developers such as Blizzard. The lead PvP dev Brian Wheeler comments in several community started threads per week. Heck there is even a Dev started thread about AoE caps and options.

The other stuff you mentioned is kinda like your opinion man.
So are there issues? Yes, ESO is not perfect. Like democracy, ESO just better than the other options at the moment.

What specific other things are you talking about that are just my opinion?

The horrible lag, broken cc system, ability bars locking up, aoe caps decision, and the worst of them all is the complete lack of communication from ZOS or care about the PvP side.

Please actually provide facts and the AOE cap is 6 not 60. This is about ESO not GW2..........

bcbully · November 2015

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

Lots a mis-info here, but hey what are you gonna do?

Anyone can log in to PvP and see the issues for themselves. I can link the ESO forum post regarding AOE caps also.

All this information is all over a majority of the forums on the ESO website complaining about these issues and ZOS loves to delete them! Also watch all the recent ESO Podcast by Sypher, Fengrush, Lefty Lucy, and King Richard talking about this.

What you are saying is not contextually accurate. Yes there is lag, horrible latency lag. It happens about 2-3 hours out the day when campaigns are full.

AoE caps are an issue. The cap is set at 60. For comparison, ESO's only competition in the AvAvA/WvWvW market, GW2 has their cap set at 5.

Communication is far beyond what i've experienced form other mmorpg developers such as Blizzard. The lead PvP dev Brian Wheeler comments in several community started threads per week. Heck there is even a Dev started thread about AoE caps and options.

The other stuff you mentioned is kinda like your opinion man.
So are there issues? Yes, ESO is not perfect. Like democracy, ESO just better than the other options at the moment.

What specific other things are you talking about that are just my opinion?

The horrible lag, broken cc system, ability bars locking up, aoe caps decision, and the worst of them all is the complete lack of communication from ZOS or care about the PvP side.

Please actually provide facts and the AOE cap is 6 not 60. This is about ESO not GW2..........

So you don't play much huh lol? Don't really know what you are talking about huh? Kinda like spreading misinformation.

AoE abilities can now hit up to 60 targets; the first 6 will take 100% damage, the next 24 targets will take 50% damage, and the last 30 targets will take 25% damage.

Get your stuff together before you make a bogus thread mmk?

edit- inb4 dumb comment proving you don't even know what an AoE cap is.

ESO_LAG · November 2015

ESO_LAG · November 2015

bcbully said:

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

Lots a mis-info here, but hey what are you gonna do?

Anyone can log in to PvP and see the issues for themselves. I can link the ESO forum post regarding AOE caps also.

All this information is all over a majority of the forums on the ESO website complaining about these issues and ZOS loves to delete them! Also watch all the recent ESO Podcast by Sypher, Fengrush, Lefty Lucy, and King Richard talking about this.

What you are saying is not contextually accurate. Yes there is lag, horrible latency lag. It happens about 2-3 hours out the day when campaigns are full.

AoE caps are an issue. The cap is set at 60. For comparison, ESO's only competition in the AvAvA/WvWvW market, GW2 has their cap set at 5.

Communication is far beyond what i've experienced form other mmorpg developers such as Blizzard. The lead PvP dev Brian Wheeler comments in several community started threads per week. Heck there is even a Dev started thread about AoE caps and options.

The other stuff you mentioned is kinda like your opinion man.
So are there issues? Yes, ESO is not perfect. Like democracy, ESO just better than the other options at the moment.

What specific other things are you talking about that are just my opinion?

The horrible lag, broken cc system, ability bars locking up, aoe caps decision, and the worst of them all is the complete lack of communication from ZOS or care about the PvP side.

Please actually provide facts and the AOE cap is 6 not 60. This is about ESO not GW2..........

So you don't play much huh lol? Don't really know what you are talking about huh? Kinda like spreading misinformation.

AoE abilities can now hit up to 60 targets; the first 6 will take 100% damage, the next 24 targets will take 50% damage, and the last 30 targets will take 25% damage.
Get your stuff together before you make a bogus thread mmk?

edit- inb4 dumb comment proving you don't even know what an AoE cap is.

And with the current 50% damage reduction now in Cyrodil anything beyond 6 is well not really impacted.

filmoret · November 2015

One of the 1.1 patch notes described some AoE (area-of-effect) abilities having their maximum number of targets reduced. This led to some consternation among the community – our apologies for the confusion; we should have been more explicit in the patch notes. Here’s the information:

All AoE effect abilities in ESO have a max target limit of six, and always have. The exceptions to this are Alliance War-specific abilities, and several others, which are specifically noted (in tooltips) as having a higher or lower limit. So, if an AoE’s ability tooltip does not list it as having a special number (greater than or less than 6) of targets, it was designed to affect 6 targets, maximum.

Now that your main complaint is settled.

Testing the lag right now but I tend to trust BcBully because I know he has many hours in pvp.

ESO_LAG · November 2015

filmoret said:

One of the 1.1 patch notes described some AoE (area-of-effect) abilities having their maximum number of targets reduced. This led to some consternation among the community – our apologies for the confusion; we should have been more explicit in the patch notes. Here’s the information:
All AoE effect abilities in ESO have a max target limit of six, and always have. The exceptions to this are Alliance War-specific abilities, and several others, which are specifically noted (in tooltips) as having a higher or lower limit. So, if an AoE’s ability tooltip does not list it as having a special number (greater than or less than 6) of targets, it was designed to affect 6 targets, maximum.

Now that your main complaint is settled.

Testing the lag right now but I tend to trust BcBully because I know he has many hours in pvp.

bcbully · November 2015

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

ESO_LAG said:

bcbully said:

Lots a mis-info here, but hey what are you gonna do?

Anyone can log in to PvP and see the issues for themselves. I can link the ESO forum post regarding AOE caps also.

All this information is all over a majority of the forums on the ESO website complaining about these issues and ZOS loves to delete them! Also watch all the recent ESO Podcast by Sypher, Fengrush, Lefty Lucy, and King Richard talking about this.

What you are saying is not contextually accurate. Yes there is lag, horrible latency lag. It happens about 2-3 hours out the day when campaigns are full.

AoE caps are an issue. The cap is set at 60. For comparison, ESO's only competition in the AvAvA/WvWvW market, GW2 has their cap set at 5.

Communication is far beyond what i've experienced form other mmorpg developers such as Blizzard. The lead PvP dev Brian Wheeler comments in several community started threads per week. Heck there is even a Dev started thread about AoE caps and options.

The other stuff you mentioned is kinda like your opinion man.
So are there issues? Yes, ESO is not perfect. Like democracy, ESO just better than the other options at the moment.

What specific other things are you talking about that are just my opinion?

The horrible lag, broken cc system, ability bars locking up, aoe caps decision, and the worst of them all is the complete lack of communication from ZOS or care about the PvP side.

Please actually provide facts and the AOE cap is 6 not 60. This is about ESO not GW2..........

So you don't play much huh lol? Don't really know what you are talking about huh? Kinda like spreading misinformation.

AoE abilities can now hit up to 60 targets; the first 6 will take 100% damage, the next 24 targets will take 50% damage, and the last 30 targets will take 25% damage.
Get your stuff together before you make a bogus thread mmk?

edit- inb4 dumb comment proving you don't even know what an AoE cap is.

And with the current 50% damage reduction now in Cyrodil anything beyond 6 is well not really impacted.

Yeah so you were wrong. No big deal it happens. As for your thread links? Nothing works in ESO 100% of the time. Maybe 95% of the time, but 5% adds up if you play a lot right?

For example, out of a week of play there will be a moment were I can't break CC. Same goes for skills. Does ESO have bugs and quirks? Yep it does. Is it the best AvA system out there? Without a shadow of a doubt.

ESO has a very large and active forum base (check out how fast the recent topics page moves) that is aloud to voice any concern or complaint they have unrestricted. This is a good thing. You get a lot of misunderstanding of systems though. Usually these things are explained in those threads.

You know those guys in the pod cast you linked? To this day they play 40+ hours a week and have since before launch. That should tell you something

Yeah I complain about stuff in ESO too, like in this thread I made last week "ESO is not very rewarding". Devs listen. Got problem? Post it. Guess what though? I'm gonna be right back out there tonight. You know why? It's the best thing going.

Me like the others will be there until something better shows up.

EDIT- Lmfao I just noticed you name and you 11 posts. GG *tips cap* I bit you got me.

ESO_LAG · November 2015

All I want is for ESO to improve and I agree it has the best AvA / combat system currently available.

I created this post to make it public and not on ESO official forums where they are known to modify / delete post.

ESO_LAG · December 2015

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/238190/can-zenimax-finally-fix-my-character#latest

ESO_LAG · December 2015

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/238402/lagging-when-server-is-full-ps4

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