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That's It...Hell DOES Freeze Over

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited December 2015 in News & Features Discussion

imageThat's It...Hell DOES Freeze Over

From now through January 6th, Devilian players can experience the legendary thing your mom always told you when you asked to borrow the car: "When hell freezes over..." Guess she owes you the keys! It actually has in Devilian and players can experience Hell Freeze complete with carols, quests, costumes, Talisman boxes and more.

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  • BalianWolfieBalianWolfie Member UncommonPosts: 240
    How to publish a bad game?

    Don't.

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  • VaselVasel Member UncommonPosts: 226
    I tried it and I found it mediocre at best. This is not the game Trion needs to publish following The Archage mess.
  • PegasusUKPegasusUK Member UncommonPosts: 50
    Hurry up Lineage Eternal, enough of this crap.
  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Vasel said:
    I tried it and I found it mediocre at best. This is not the game Trion needs to publish following The Archage mess.
    This.
    Trion lost the plot with Archeage.
    They are the next SoE, mark my words.

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    still a fun twist on a x-mas event. 

    This have been a good conversation

  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Belgar said:
    Hurry up Lineage Eternal, enough of this crap.


    Lineage Eternal will not be coming out for a long time still, ncsoft is still making crap ton of money with lineage in korea, hell their most profitable and most money making game currently is lineage. They are not going to jeopardize it by releasing a new variation of the game that players mighty not even eat.

    Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.

  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444
    Belgar said:
    Hurry up Lineage Eternal, enough of this crap.


    Pfft Lost Ark or go home.

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  • UrncallerUrncaller Member UncommonPosts: 167
    edited December 2015
    You all really should be tiring of the Trion hate train your on....but meh Any ways the game is great actually if you sit down and take the time to explore whats under t he hood. But you would rather just complain and still keep using the old archeage excuse(which btw archeage has gotten so much better and still does every patch since 2.0)

    But to those that have not played then give it a try it is F2P and not P2W in any way.

    Ya know I do not let someone pick out a car for me even after the reviews and I do not let someone choose a game for me neither.....so give it a test drive and see.:P
  • Righteous_RockRighteous_Rock Member RarePosts: 1,234
    ArcheAge is very fun if you spend enough money
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    I like how we're not allowed to post news about games or companies you don't like. That's cute. 

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  • shalissarshalissar Member UncommonPosts: 509
    Hell will freeze over when the bigger european server manages to stay up for a full 24 hours. yeesh.
  • BalianWolfieBalianWolfie Member UncommonPosts: 240
    Belgar said:
    Hurry up Lineage Eternal, enough of this crap.


    Lineage Eternal will not be coming out for a long time still, ncsoft is still making crap ton of money with lineage in korea, hell their most profitable and most money making game currently is lineage. They are not going to jeopardize it by releasing a new variation of the game that players mighty not even eat.
    Ugh? I don't think Lineage and Lineage Eternal is even in the same category and I doubt they share the same market...? Do they even have the same lores?

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  • azurreiazurrei Member UncommonPosts: 332
    I avoided the game until last night because I knew I would enjoy it...I had to force myself to go to bed, as predicted - this definitely seems like a fun game to hop in and out of when there is a lul in your main MMO/ARPG.
  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Belgar said:
    Hurry up Lineage Eternal, enough of this crap.


    Lineage Eternal will not be coming out for a long time still, ncsoft is still making crap ton of money with lineage in korea, hell their most profitable and most money making game currently is lineage. They are not going to jeopardize it by releasing a new variation of the game that players mighty not even eat.
    Ugh? I don't think Lineage and Lineage Eternal is even in the same category and I doubt they share the same market...? Do they even have the same lores?
    Lore? in an isometric arpg? if lore mattered, lineage would have been out of market 10 years ago. of course to westerners lore is a big thing, that is why lineage died here after ncsoft stopped updating lore, while in korea they just play it for pure kill-kill-kill fun, doesn't matter if it is repetitive or mindless. Did you see the teasers of lineage eternal? it is an isometric arpg like lineage and in korea it is impossible to replace lineage. Ncsoft have been teasing lineage eternal since 2011, 4 years later they are still teasing it, you have to get the hint why they are not going ahead with full blown development and release cycle : lineage still makes them shit load of money.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Urncaller said:
    You all really should be tiring of the Trion hate train your on....but meh Any ways the game is great actually if you sit down and take the time to explore whats under t he hood. But you would rather just complain and still keep using the old archeage excuse(which btw archeage has gotten so much better and still does every patch since 2.0)

    But to those that have not played then give it a try it is F2P and not P2W in any way.

    Ya know I do not let someone pick out a car for me even after the reviews and I do not let someone choose a game for me neither.....so give it a test drive and see.:P
    Well i tried it and deleted it after about 10 minutes.'So  i guess i never really fully experienced what is under the hood but it was that bad i couldn't bother to look for the hood release.

    However yes you are correct it never hurts to try a game for yourself you never know if you are missing something you might like.I'll tell you though i have  very easy criteria to understand a game before i even enter it...if it looks cheap ,it is cheap.

    There is only one cheap game i am  currently playing and that is Hearthstone and i would not  be playing it if i had a  viable option.So yeah 35 years of gaming has taught me that cheap looking games will never be good.Now if this game was released say mmmm 15 or closer to 20 years ago it might be pretty good.

    Even still i would not have dropped EQ or Quake or Unreal to play this game even 15- 20 years ago.

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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    ArcheAge is very fun if you spend enough money
      Yes!!! spend enough money to have 1-3% better chance at gamble. Amazing concept, isn't it?

    Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.

  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    I like how we're not allowed to post news about games or companies you don't like. That's cute. 
    Wow. Nobody's forcing you to take advertising revenue from Trion or enter into marketing deals via regular streams and giveaways.

    If you offer news, reviews and features for products of companies you have direct marketing and financial deals with you have a conflict of interest.

    And if you want to take all the benefits you get from the advertising revenue and other marketing, you have to take the negative consequences and natural ethical questions that rise from that. Attempting to sound victimised doesn't help anything at all.
  • hyuteihyutei Member UncommonPosts: 52
    BillMurphy said:
    I like how we're not allowed to post news about games or companies you don't like. That's cute. 


    i see you deleted my post just cos i posted some hate towards Trion,now thats cute,defending a failure of a company....


    no one said that your not allowed to post new about games that people don't like,but why is that you post ONLY positive stuff about trion worlds games ?

    every now and then you post some news about some game and you say,dont give this or that game a shot cos its a moneygrabbing game,you cant even play normaly without paying alot of money,now tell me,whats archeage or devilian ? same thing with both games,they will make founder packs every 2-3 weeks with new unique costumes and stuff that affect game and release it for 150-200 euros,and who ever buys that will have more advantage over every1 else,cos thats thats happening to archeage right now,now i dont mind you putting news out for trion worlds,every game should be posted in news BUT,atleast be truthful,post both BAD and GOOD stuff about games from trion,not just GOOD,for some reason,Webzen always recives full hate from MMORPG.COM and trion always recives full support,is that cos trion pays you to post stuff about their games and webzen doesnt ? or whats going on here ( not supporting webzen,just sayin what ive seen how you do your news here ) cos in my opinion,a site that lies will not last long



    I will always come here to check news about new games,but few things have changed,when seeing your reviews from different games,i always go and check other sites with their reviews about a game,cos in past year or two,i havent seen 1 fair and truthful review from you,and for a fact i know im not the only one.

    Now is it better to ruin your site reputation to lie for some company who's game will fail with or without your POSITIVE news,or is it better to post truth and let the gaming community decide if they think they should give game a shot or not and while at that they will consider your site a truthful and good gaming site ?
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    @hyutei ; I beg to differ that this LEGITIMATE news piece has anything to do with liking/not liking the game. It is simply reporting on an in-game event, not making a judgment about whether or not it's fun  or even worthy of attention. And it has even less to do with Trion and our opinion one way or another of their business practices.

    Your posts are out of line for the purpose of this discussion. Please keep to the topic which is a holiday event in case you didn't notice.


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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    @Athisar Advertising on the site and editorial content are 100% separate parts of the business. You are free to contact the admins with your concerns.


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  • hyuteihyutei Member UncommonPosts: 52
    SBFord said:
    @hyutei  I beg to differ that this LEGITIMATE news piece has anything to do with liking/not liking the game. It is simply reporting on an in-game event, not making a judgment about whether or not it's fun  or even worthy of attention. And it has even less to do with Trion and our opinion one way or another of their business practices.

    Your posts are out of line for the purpose of this discussion. Please keep to the topic which is a holiday event in case you didn't notice.



    that might be true,but i wasnt talking about just this news but about most of news you make,and the reason for that is,when ever i make a hate post about trion or 1 of their games,my post gets deleted,when i make a hate post about some other game,no1 cares,cos its not trion,now please explain that to me
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    hyutei said:
    BillMurphy said:
    I like how we're not allowed to post news about games or companies you don't like. That's cute. 


    i see you deleted my post just cos i posted some hate towards Trion,now thats cute,defending a failure of a company....

    I didn't delete your post. Someone may have, but it wasn't me. I don't generally worry about forum moderation, as I run editorial content. We also post news about really crappy F2P browser games, which I would never actually play, because it's NEWS. 

    As for reviews, I think you're just plain wrong. On average, we score MUCH lower than the average site on Metacritic, and the highest game from Trion we've ever scored was Rift, their first game. Everything else has been 7s or lower. Defiance being the lowest at launch, only getting higher with a re-review when it improved.

    So please, don't presume to think we're shills, unfair, or otherwise just because you DISAGREE with the content and opinions of our authors. That's called a difference of opinion, and is not due to a lack of integrity or honesty on our part. ArcheAge didn't even get a very good score.  7.3 isn't exactly blazing the charts, and you'll notice I called it out for a lot of issues in the review. I think it deserves the flack its been getting since then too, because Trion and XL can't seem to right the ship.

    Now next week I'll be posting my full review of Devilian. I fear no matter what number I assign the game, you'll think I'm paid off unless I come out scathing against it. Fact is, I paid MY OWN cash for a founder's package of the game and yes I do think it's far better than ELOA which was clearly rushed to market by Webzen in the West. Regardless of that little factoid though, I think Devilian has a lot of systems that do little to help the grinding and repetitive nature of its main content structure. It's a popcorn MMO, and it's lacking in longevity. 

    But for my reasons why, and the full review, you're just going to have to come back next week. 

    @Athisar You probably won't believe this, because no one ever seems to, but advertising on MMORPG and Editorial content DO NOT INFLUENCE EACH OTHER. The only time we ever cross paths is if Craig (the owner) sells a Sponsored Content piece. I then approve it or decline it, and we post it, clearing marking it as paid. Everything else? Not influence by the money spent on ads here. We have, on many occasions, posted scathing reviews of our biggest advertisers. One of which even pulled their ads, because they didn't like our review. So please, tell me again how much you know about this business because it's clearly jack shit.

    Merry freakin' Christmas, pass the Tylenol.


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  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    SBFord said:
    @Athisar Advertising on the site and editorial content are 100% separate parts of the business. You are free to contact the admins with your concerns.
    Well, this is true of just about every publication that exists. It is a conflict whether bias is there or not. Of course companies with conflicts are going to deny bias, and they may genuinely not even intend any, but questions are, and should, be raised. 'Woe is me' type posts just inflame the situation.
  • StrandsStrands Member UncommonPosts: 32
    Off Topic: Amen Bill, Amen!

    On Topic: While I havn't played Devilian, its a pretty cool idea to have Christmas/Winter Holiday in HELL.  Definitely Unique. 
  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    This game may not be AAA but is a fun game and the Christmas event is really fun to check out. I don't get hating on it because you hate Trion.
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