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ESO - 60% off on Steam

IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
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Just a heads up since people seem to come here asking where to get a deal on ESO pretty regularly.

Both the standard and Imperial editions are 60% off right now.
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  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    TY, but I got my fill of the game on the free weekend.
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  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Member RarePosts: 1,247
    Is it worth it to enter into a right of use agreement with Steam? Even at a 60% discount.

    I would suggest looking at other avenues where your money purchases something where you are the owner. Vs giving Steam your money to purchase/own the game and then allowing you to use the game at their discretion.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    TalulaRose said:
    Is it worth it to enter into a right of use agreement with Steam? Even at a 60% discount.

    I would suggest looking at other avenues where your money purchases something where you are the owner. Vs giving Steam your money to purchase/own the game and then allowing you to use the game at their discretion.
    Fair enough... I did a quick check and it seems to also be on sale 60% off directly from the Zenimax store. 
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  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311
    TalulaRose said:
    Is it worth it to enter into a right of use agreement with Steam? Even at a 60% discount.

    I would suggest looking at other avenues where your money purchases something where you are the owner. Vs giving Steam your money to purchase/own the game and then allowing you to use the game at their discretion.
    just curious but is there a situation where steam doesn't allow you to play a game you purchased?
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Iselin said:
    TalulaRose said:
    Is it worth it to enter into a right of use agreement with Steam? Even at a 60% discount.

    I would suggest looking at other avenues where your money purchases something where you are the owner. Vs giving Steam your money to purchase/own the game and then allowing you to use the game at their discretion.
    Fair enough... I did a quick check and it seems to also be on sale 60% off directly from the Zenimax store. 
    PS store is also selling the game at the same price as the PC version for the PS4, i assume that Microsoft is doing the same thing for the Xb1, which probably means its not a Steam initiative, but a Zenimax one.
  • FargolFargol Member UncommonPosts: 303
    Dang, not on sale anymore.

    Now I play the waiting game ...
  • Righteous_RockRighteous_Rock Member RarePosts: 1,234
    If you don't mind subbing, it's worth your money to just buy it, sub and hop in for the best 3 faction pvp available today.


    I hated on this game forever, but if I zoom out and look at the strength of this game, massive 3 faction pvp in cryodil and stop judging this game like it's the mmo skyrim, then ESO is actually a pretty good mmorpg, if not the best one available.
  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    I defintely get a Skyrim Online vibe from this game. I haven't even touched the PvP yet, not sure if I will , but I'm having fun. 
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited January 2016
    baphamet said:
    Is it worth it to enter into a right of use agreement with Steam? Even at a 60% discount.

    I would suggest looking at other avenues where your money purchases something where you are the owner. Vs giving Steam your money to purchase/own the game and then allowing you to use the game at their discretion.
    just curious but is there a situation where steam doesn't allow you to play a game you purchased?

    There is a thread - in general I think - about Steam being sued by the French government (and by extension the EU); in a nutshell it comes down to do you own the game - since Steam are selling it - and so can resell it as would be the case if you bought a disc from e.g. GameStop; or do Steam "own" the game and  you are essentially renting it - which would be the case if it was available via Amazon Prime say.

    Speaking of Amazon they have it for about 55% less than Steam from some dodgy seller called Bethseda! (And the PS4 version is even cheaper.)
  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311
    gervaise1 said:
    baphamet said:
    Is it worth it to enter into a right of use agreement with Steam? Even at a 60% discount.

    I would suggest looking at other avenues where your money purchases something where you are the owner. Vs giving Steam your money to purchase/own the game and then allowing you to use the game at their discretion.
    just curious but is there a situation where steam doesn't allow you to play a game you purchased?

    There is a thread - in general I think - about Steam being sued by the French government (and by extension the EU); in a nutshell it comes down to do you own the game - since Steam are selling it - and so can resell it as would be the case if you bought a disc from e.g. GameStop; or do Steam "own" the game and  you are essentially renting it - which would be the case if it was available via Amazon Prime say.

    Speaking of Amazon they have it for about 55% less than Steam from some dodgy seller called Bethseda! (And the PS4 version is even cheaper.)
    so in other words the answer is no lol

    as long as there isn't a situation where i can't play the game i purchased or if they start charging a sub to use steam, then i'm not seeing the issue.


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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    I use Steam also but hate the fact I don't actually own the games. If Steam folds, and , yes, it is possible, I would lose all the games in my library.  I'm actually even leery of being critical of Steam.  My library could be locked and I would not have access to any of the games "I bought".   I love our Steam overseers!   They bring joy in to my life!
  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311
    edited January 2016
    What is with all the Steam hate lately? I have zero issues with Steam in my 10 years of using it. I like it even more now that I can refund. Not sure why people go bananas about it.
    the answer is simple....because it is main stream and the hipster gamers can't stand for that now can they?
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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    edited January 2016
    flizzer said:
    I use Steam also but hate the fact I don't actually own the games. If Steam folds, and , yes, it is possible, I would lose all the games in my library.  I'm actually even leery of being critical of Steam.  My library could be locked and I would not have access to any of the games "I bought".   I love our Steam overseers!   They bring joy in to my life!

    If you feel that way then don't use them. Seems pretty simple. This conspiracy theory of them 'locking you out of your content' is unfounded and silly. Use GOG or someone else. People are so funny.  
    I also use GOG but, let's face it, many games are not on GOG.  Also, not exactly conspiratorial to believe I could lose my games on Steam.  Enron could never fail. It was a huge company. I remember all the buzz at the time.  I never could understand how they made their money and never invested in the company. Luck me.  Look what happened. Steam is going strong and popular "at the moment" Nothing lasts forever.  I would just prefer owning the games.  That is all. 
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  • HkelementalHkelemental Member UncommonPosts: 10
    flizzer said:
    flizzer said:
    I use Steam also but hate the fact I don't actually own the games. If Steam folds, and , yes, it is possible, I would lose all the games in my library.  I'm actually even leery of being critical of Steam.  My library could be locked and I would not have access to any of the games "I bought".   I love our Steam overseers!   They bring joy in to my life!

    If you feel that way then don't use them. Seems pretty simple. This conspiracy theory of them 'locking you out of your content' is unfounded and silly. Use GOG or someone else. People are so funny.  
    I also use GOG but, let's face it, many games are not on GOG.  Also, not exactly conspiratorial to believe I could lose my games on Steam.  Enron could never fail. It was a huge company. I remember all the buzz at the time.  I never could understand how they made their money and never invested in the company. Luck me.  Look what happened. Steam is going strong and popular "at the moment" Nothing lasts forever.  I would just prefer owning the games.  That is all. 
    Yeah, about that. Have you ever read an EULA?
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    TalulaRose said:
    Is it worth it to enter into a right of use agreement with Steam? Even at a 60% discount.

    I would suggest looking at other avenues where your money purchases something where you are the owner. Vs giving Steam your money to purchase/own the game and then allowing you to use the game at their discretion.
    Can you not just get another client and sign in like any other MMORPG? Besides we're talking about an MMORPG, I'd expect it to go away before a widely used sales platform for the overall industry like Steam. Is it worth it to enter any MMORPG agreement is the better question...

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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    blueturtle13 said:
    Then do not use them. Their are plenty of places to download games on the internet. Please do not try and compare Steam with Enron. That is seriously reaching to support what is basically a silly argument.
    Nothing silly about it.  Steam is extremly popular and doing well. No question about it.  I just don't have blind faith and prefer to always question.  
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Hkelemental said:
     

    Yeah, about that. Have you ever read an EULA?
    As far as EULAs go they all include something along the lines of: a) in so far as permitted by law and b) does not compromise users statutory rights. Basically companies are not allowed to post signs saying "Enter at your own risk" and then when something goes wrong and it is found that they were in breach of x/y/z say "ah well we had a sign".

    Steam are selling goods; customers have a right to resell goods they have bought. That is part of what buy means.

    If Steam want to lease goods - like Spotify or Amazon Prime etc. - they can choose to do so. And then it will be very clear. 
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  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    This was/is actually a really good MMO

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  • HkelementalHkelemental Member UncommonPosts: 10
    gervaise1 said:
    Hkelemental said:
     

    Yeah, about that. Have you ever read an EULA?
    As far as EULAs go they all include something along the lines of: a) in so far as permitted by law and b) does not compromise users statutory rights. Basically companies are not allowed to post signs saying "Enter at your own risk" and then when something goes wrong and it is found that they were in breach of x/y/z say "ah well we had a sign".

    Steam are selling goods; customers have a right to resell goods they have bought. That is part of what buy means.

    If Steam want to lease goods - like Spotify or Amazon Prime etc. - they can choose to do so. And then it will be very clear. 
    The point I was attempting to bring up is the fact that the guy wants to own his games. The problem with that is that you never own the games. You at best own a LICENSE (End User *License* Agreement) which usually allows you to play the games. The developer/producer owns the game. They dictate what you are allowed to do with the software.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited January 2016
    gervaise1 said:
     

    Yeah, about that. Have you ever read an EULA?
    As far as EULAs go they all include something along the lines of: a) in so far as permitted by law and b) does not compromise users statutory rights. Basically companies are not allowed to post signs saying "Enter at your own risk" and then when something goes wrong and it is found that they were in breach of x/y/z say "ah well we had a sign".

    Steam are selling goods; customers have a right to resell goods they have bought. That is part of what buy means.

    If Steam want to lease goods - like Spotify or Amazon Prime etc. - they can choose to do so. And then it will be very clear. 
    The point I was attempting to bring up is the fact that the guy wants to own his games. The problem with that is that you never own the games. You at best own a LICENSE (End User *License* Agreement) which usually allows you to play the games. The developer/producer owns the game. They dictate what you are allowed to do with the software.
    Historically people have bought books / records / music and games - all stuff that today is distributed electronically - and historically resold them. Whether people have been reselling a licence doesn't matter that is how it has been. 

    As for your second point - woah! That is very, very dangerous. Companies are also consumers; one reason the EU court ruled. It is essential that companies are not subject to dictates. (Edit: Puts you firmly in the "everyone must upgrade to Win10 as well if MS said so" - forget the fact that some of their stuff may no longer work - if the developer said so .... same deal and more for companies.)
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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    You can buy an MMO from Steam and then create the account. . then you never have to use steam again. . download the client and play.  Is that not the case?

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