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Does B&S use game guard?

RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
Looking to find out if Blade & Soul uses game guard, if so I do not want to buy or play the game.

Honestly I pre-order Black Desert just to try the game because a lot of friends tried to play it, not only did the launcher fail to install the game, but I discovered the game installs "XingCode3" without consent or acknowledgement that I wan't to install such, and on the pre-order page I am not made aware of this.

Simply put I read the B&S Page where I pre-order, I don't see anything about game guard but based off reading it I think this game has "Game Guard" as well if so I don't want to buy or play the game.

Honestly I am sick of game companies like NC Soft, Daum Games, and other F2P Games installing 3rd party software on peoples computers often without "Any type of agreement" or letting players know they are doing such, and its a very malicious thing to do, I used to use games which contained such software myself, until I discovered that the software keeps running in the background even when the game is closed, and installs itself to C:\windows directories, as well as can be used in malicious ways, plus provides no "Privacy Policy" or "Third Party Agreement.,"

I had "XingCode3" "Game Guard" "Hack Shield"  all installed on my computer simply put even though I wasn't playing games, or after removing games these stayed installed except for "Hack Shield" the problem with this is that my computer was often getting lag in some games, FPS drops, loading issues, and I heard rumors about both these Anti Cheats, I removed them from my computer and tried doing what I was doing and sure enough it fixed all the problems I was having mostly network issues which related to texture issues in games and FPS drops.

It should be a requirement by "European Law" and "U.S Law, that companies put in their "Terms OF Service" or on their sales page, that they are also installing "Third Party Software" created by "X Company" and here is a link to the privacy policy, and terms of service of the third party, by installing our game you are also installing (X Software) and consent to this.

With all the Internet Hacking going around, I really don't trust these Anti Cheats, the only two I currently trust are "VAC" and "Punk Buster" and why is because Punk Buster isn't required for Americas Army, but also allows me to uninstall it in which other Korean Anti Cheats, do not allow a user to uninstall easily and are malicious at least Punk Buster is up front about it.

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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    edited January 2016
    Torval said:
    Blade and Soul uses nProtect GameGuard. It doesn't have a separate install entry in my programs list. Like TERA, it is part of the client install and only launches and runs when the game is running.

    Win 10 Pro x64
    Are you sure it only runs when the game is running to fully remove the program from your system if you don't trust it?

    http://www.alteredgamer.com/pc-gaming-tech/1709-how-do-i-uninstall-nprotect-game-guard/

    It says it copy itself to services.msc which is basically a part of windows which usually boots automatically every single time the computer loads up, except if its set to manual however when I looked at my services before Game Guard was set to automatically load at PC Startup.

    Also Game Guard is not made by NC Soft, therefore its a 3rd party application, and should be treated as such, same with Black Desert, and XingCode 3. Basically each game should specify in public on the FAQ, and Terms OF Service of the game that they are "Installing 3rd Party Software." Because the software is not developed by the same people as the game and the user only knows that they are installing the game not software developed or run by another company.

    While you can't legally blame a company for damages often in an agreement or Terms OF Service, they often refuse to provide a "Privacy Policy" or " Terms OF Service" or inform users of knowingly installing "3rd Party Software", and isn't that illegal?

    I really don't like any of this stuff on my system at all, if they want to install a Anti Cheat, then they can be more forthcoming about it, and provide a uninstaller should I want to remove it from my system like "Punk Buster".
  • BenjolaBenjola Member UncommonPosts: 843
    edited January 2016
    I don't like 3rd party programs as well but for gaming I have to let it go I guess.
    My solution for this problem is... I have a gaming PC, with nothing but games on the hard drive.
    I do everything else like emailing, banking and whatnots on my laptop and phone.

    I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    I'm ok with the anti-cheats, so long as they only run with the game they are trying to guard.

    I really hate the stupid "download accelerators" that keep right on running, and sucking up your bandwidth. 

    I think anything that doesn't either a) make the user aware of during the install and uninstall with the original program, or b) have it's own installer/uninstaller, should be labeled as malware.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    For about three weeks after a Windows 10 patch, Game Guard would blue screen when it launched which made Elsword unplayable.  I don't have a problem with anti-cheat programs on general principle, but blue screens are bad.
  • LucyFurLucyFur Member UncommonPosts: 6
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