Yeah, right. EA = Electronic Abuse with their excessive milking and DLC behind paywall. Actually EA is the definition why games are going complete shite.
If you imagine a spectrum a fun loving hippie on the left side and a corporate beast on the right, can you really put any other company on the right side of EA?
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EA is a corporation which has a responsibility to make money for it's shareholders. It's doing that and seems to be successful. All the negative publicity comes from the players, who continue to slop up their products despite their hate towards the company.
As long as the players keep gobbling up their content, their business practices will not change...AND THEY SHOULDN'T...because a corporations main focus is profit, and that is a good thing.
We are getting this reply I am sure because they see sells are down. People are more often voting with their wallets and they have to rely more and more on whales to buy early access at top prices to make money. Now if they could keep the whales and get back the average joe as well. Now they would be making money.
You say their main focus is making money. It should not be. Making money and making quality games should be equal. Why do you think Walmart and Costco is so successful. Customer satisfaction is key. Returns are not questioned. People feel confident spending their money with that type of business.
Can the same be said for EA? I am a customer of EA that has gone from the pre-order line to I wait and see how every launch goes before I buy. I have skipped many a game because of bad reports. Many customers are like me when it comes to EA and thats why EA is speaking up IMO. They are feeling it.
I don't think they're feeling it. I mean their stock price has risen consistently year-over-year. I think that EA gets a bad rep for being the big fish. I'm not saying that EA isn't guilty of capitalizing on their assets, but it's like criticizing Wal-Mart for making so much money. Reality is they just found a better way to do it. It's cheap, sometimes, but I really don't think that people are voting with their wallets. I mean I think that a quarter of the games in the Top 20 games of 2015 on PSN are EA games.
I definitely think it's a bit of fire fighting, but I think it's more like Google fire fighting, like "We're not evil" opposed to actually looking to change.
Yeah, they figured out that gamers are fanbois who will hype and crusade eagerly await every single piece of crap game their shovelware slaves software developers can crank produce out of their sweatshops studios.
Hey, I resent that sweatshop comment. EA still has many North American offices, right? If they really wanted a sweatshop they'd just set up 10 or 12 Korean or Chinese offices and be done with it. Granted, all of the sports titles would have anime-styling, but I still think it'd be better than the Ignite engine
If you imagine a spectrum a fun loving hippie on the left side and a corporate beast on the right, can you really put any other company on the right side of EA?
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Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
EA is a corporation which has a responsibility to make money for it's shareholders. It's doing that and seems to be successful. All the negative publicity comes from the players, who continue to slop up their products despite their hate towards the company.
As long as the players keep gobbling up their content, their business practices will not change...AND THEY SHOULDN'T...because a corporations main focus is profit, and that is a good thing.
EA is a corporation which has a responsibility to make money for it's shareholders. It's doing that and seems to be successful. All the negative publicity comes from the players, who continue to slop up their products despite their hate towards the company.
As long as the players keep gobbling up their content, their business practices will not change...AND THEY SHOULDN'T...because a corporations main focus is profit, and that is a good thing.
We are getting this reply I am sure because they see sells are down. People are more often voting with their wallets and they have to rely more and more on whales to buy early access at top prices to make money. Now if they could keep the whales and get back the average joe as well. Now they would be making money.
You say their main focus is making money. It should not be. Making money and making quality games should be equal. Why do you think Walmart and Costco is so successful. Customer satisfaction is key. Returns are not questioned. People feel confident spending their money with that type of business.
Can the same be said for EA? I am a customer of EA that has gone from the pre-order line to I wait and see how every launch goes before I buy. I have skipped many a game because of bad reports. Content missing and added later as DLC that should have been part of the buy in price. Many customers are like me when it comes to EA and thats why EA is speaking up IMO. They are feeling it.
You are one of millions of EA customers. Clearly what they are doing is working for them despite what types of opinions we see from the vocal minority. People get a false sense of importance when discussing things with like-minded or smaller communities. People will always gravitate towards those with similar interests and opinions.
Corporations will do what they feel is right by their shareholders. As long as they can retain or even improve their bottom line using current tactics, there is no reason for them to change. It's the customers that have the real power here, regardless of how little impact they, individually, believe they have. If the customers stop buying the product, the bottom line goes red and the shareholders want change. Then the tactics will change. In the end, the wallet always dictates tactics....always.
I come at this from a point of view that everyone is an Ethical Egoist, and it has served me well. People will always, no matter what, do things that make them feel better regardless of the motivations (realized or imagined).
EA is a corporation which has a responsibility to make money for it's shareholders. It's doing that and seems to be successful. All the negative publicity comes from the players, who continue to slop up their products despite their hate towards the company.
As long as the players keep gobbling up their content, their business practices will not change...AND THEY SHOULDN'T...because a corporations main focus is profit, and that is a good thing.
EA is a corporation which has a responsibility to make money for it's shareholders. It's doing that and seems to be successful. All the negative publicity comes from the players, who continue to slop up their products despite their hate towards the company.
As long as the players keep gobbling up their content, their business practices will not change...AND THEY SHOULDN'T...because a corporations main focus is profit, and that is a good thing.
We are getting this reply I am sure because they see sells are down. People are more often voting with their wallets and they have to rely more and more on whales to buy early access at top prices to make money. Now if they could keep the whales and get back the average joe as well. Now they would be making money.
You say their main focus is making money. It should not be. Making money and making quality games should be equal. Why do you think Walmart and Costco is so successful. Customer satisfaction is key. Returns are not questioned. People feel confident spending their money with that type of business.
Can the same be said for EA? I am a customer of EA that has gone from the pre-order line to I wait and see how every launch goes before I buy. I have skipped many a game because of bad reports. Content missing and added later as DLC that should have been part of the buy in price. Many customers are like me when it comes to EA and thats why EA is speaking up IMO. They are feeling it.
You are one of millions of EA customers. Clearly what they are doing is working for them despite what types of opinions we see from the vocal minority. People get a false sense of importance when discussing things with like-minded or smaller communities. People will always gravitate towards those with similar interests and opinions.
Corporations will do what they feel is right by their shareholders. As long as they can retain or even improve their bottom line using current tactics, there is no reason for them to change. It's the customers that have the real power here, regardless of how little impact they, individually, believe they have. If the customers stop buying the product, the bottom line goes red and the shareholders want change. Then the tactics will change. In the end, the wallet always dictates tactics....always.
I come at this from a point of view that everyone is an Ethical Egoist, and it has served me well. People will always, no matter what, do things that make them feel better regardless of the motivations (realized or imagined).
for some reason I feel like saying in 2015 Steam had 125 million ACTIVE accounts.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
EA has a long standing hatred of how Steam has price dropped games so they are fighting back. Next we will hear CEOs saying, "Look how generous we are, letting you pay for all this stuff!".
EA has a long standing hatred of how Steam has price dropped games so they are fighting back. Next we will hear CEOs saying, "Look how generous we are, letting you pay for all this stuff!".
They should just do us all a favor and stop talking. They should just do what they are going to do and not talk about it because like ubisoft everytime they open their mouth it gets worse for them namely because they dont know how
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
EA has been nothing but a destructive force within the gaming industry for the last two decades. They've ruined far too many developers and franchises, even ones they themselves created! Why? Short-sighted, excessive greed.
Until somebody who realizes what a potent source for innovation and quality entertainment a company with EA's money and power could be is put in charge, we'll keep getting CEOs who apologize for greedy behavior while continuing to indulge in it. And I'll keep flipping them the bird while taking my business elsewhere.
Edit: What's even worse is that, for a few years after they were formed, seeing their symbol on a box was widely considered the sign of a quality product. Oh, how far they have fallen...
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CEO can double talk all he wants. I'm going to speak with my wallet by not buying EA games and also let people know when they come into my store(Gamestop) that I refuse to give EA any more of my time until they change their ways and release games that are fantastic and don't charge me far beyond what should be charged.
CEO can double talk all he wants. I'm going to speak with my wallet by not buying EA games and also let people know when they come into my store(Gamestop) that I refuse to give EA any more of my time until they change their ways and release games that are fantastic and don't charge me far beyond what should be charged.
Why not just remove EA products from your shelves? Oh wait... that darn profit thing again.
Stop forcing us to use your BS origin application and put your games on steam like everyone else, Stop charging insane amounts of money for the Super Mega Extra Awesome Collectors Edition.... which gives you the ability to play the game as it should of been just normally anyways... Create something original and fun and creative not BF5: Moar Battles and start acting like your customers are people not talking wallets then maybe people would stop thinking your a beast.
My problem with EA is their lack of creativity / imagination.
This manifests itself in both the games they decide to develop, the games they decide to publish and the restrictions they places on studios they purchase. EA almost exclusively churns out bland, generic crap that we've seen over and over again.
Thats fine for sports / simulation games which requires no imagination: just make your game as close to the real thing as possible, no creativity needed. Its why EA Sports does so well and has done so for its entire history.
However, as soon as EA branch out from sports / simulations, they just seem to panic. If its something new/innovative, its a risk, and EA doesn't take risks. They lack the foresight / understanding to really get new features and see how they could improve the genre and help make the game a success. Its this institutional problem that results in all the studios they purchase dieing out. If you stifle creativity, studios stop producing good games, revenue drops and so the studio gets scrapped.
I personally have followed the advice of some of the posters here and now vote with my wallet. I haven't bought an EA game for 3 years and don't intend to do so. Almost every EA game I've bought has been a massive let down, falling far short of the potential offered. The exception are sports games, which admittedly I hardly play any more but EA still has a good rep for them.
Only EA game I'd consider buying in the future is Skate 4 (if it ever gets made). I loved the first 3 Skate games and despite the lack of innovation, missed features etc, the core of the game has always been good.
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CEO can double talk all he wants. I'm going to speak with my wallet by not buying EA games and also let people know when they come into my store(Gamestop) that I refuse to give EA any more of my time until they change their ways and release games that are fantastic and don't charge me far beyond what should be charged.
Why not just remove EA products from your shelves? Oh wait... that darn profit thing again.
I don't "own" Gamestop lol, I just work there. Of all the games that we sell preowned, every single EA sports game before it's most recent iteration is one of the lowest profit gaining aspect of the game selection, since they depreciate so fast. Call of Duty is the same way. So that "profit" thing you mentioned isn't quite as large as you think. At least not with 90% of EA games.
CEO can double talk all he wants. I'm going to speak with my wallet by not buying EA games and also let people know when they come into my store(Gamestop) that I refuse to give EA any more of my time until they change their ways and release games that are fantastic and don't charge me far beyond what should be charged.
Why not just remove EA products from your shelves? Oh wait... that darn profit thing again.
I don't "own" Gamestop lol, I just work there. Of all the games that we sell preowned, every single EA sports game before it's most recent iteration is one of the lowest profit gaining aspect of the game selection, since they depreciate so fast. Call of Duty is the same way. So that "profit" thing you mentioned isn't quite as large as you think. At least not with 90% of EA games.
Mass produced, regurgitated, cut-n-paste games based on quantity over quality.
It's what EA has done for some time, buy up popular studios and put them on treadmills so the products are released in incomplete form with as much earning potential as possible at the expense of art and quality. Then, seemingly unknowing of the reasons for internal dissension, they fire the artists and scrap the hearts and souls of the studios, where now only brand recognition zombie husks remain. That has been the EA winning strategy for over 2 decades.
EA formula which makes them seem an evil empire that generates profit at the cost of degenerate video game genre is what gives EA the appearance of an evil empire that generates profit at the cost of degenerate video game genre. I have no clue who argues otherwise.
Companies like EA are the reason why people are flocking to Kickstsrter funding. Their business practices are the worst kind of ilk. After what they did to Mythic, I will never, ever give them money or even touch one of their products.
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EA is a corporation which has a responsibility to make money for it's shareholders. It's doing that and seems to be successful. All the negative publicity comes from the players, who continue to slop up their products despite their hate towards the company.
As long as the players keep gobbling up their content, their business practices will not change...AND THEY SHOULDN'T...because a corporations main focus is profit, and that is a good thing.
Nope, it's a service industry and the main focus should be providing a service to players. The focus on profit only is the problem not the solution.
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Hey, I resent that sweatshop comment. EA still has many North American offices, right? If they really wanted a sweatshop they'd just set up 10 or 12 Korean or Chinese offices and be done with it. Granted, all of the sports titles would have anime-styling, but I still think it'd be better than the Ignite engine
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Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
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You are one of millions of EA customers. Clearly what they are doing is working for them despite what types of opinions we see from the vocal minority. People get a false sense of importance when discussing things with like-minded or smaller communities. People will always gravitate towards those with similar interests and opinions.
Corporations will do what they feel is right by their shareholders. As long as they can retain or even improve their bottom line using current tactics, there is no reason for them to change. It's the customers that have the real power here, regardless of how little impact they, individually, believe they have. If the customers stop buying the product, the bottom line goes red and the shareholders want change. Then the tactics will change. In the end, the wallet always dictates tactics....always.
I come at this from a point of view that everyone is an Ethical Egoist, and it has served me well. People will always, no matter what, do things that make them feel better regardless of the motivations (realized or imagined).
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
EA has a long standing hatred of how Steam has price dropped games so they are fighting back. Next we will hear CEOs saying, "Look how generous we are, letting you pay for all this stuff!".
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
EA has been nothing but a destructive force within the gaming industry for the last two decades. They've ruined far too many developers and franchises, even ones they themselves created! Why? Short-sighted, excessive greed.
Until somebody who realizes what a potent source for innovation and quality entertainment a company with EA's money and power could be is put in charge, we'll keep getting CEOs who apologize for greedy behavior while continuing to indulge in it. And I'll keep flipping them the bird while taking my business elsewhere.
Edit: What's even worse is that, for a few years after they were formed, seeing their symbol on a box was widely considered the sign of a quality product. Oh, how far they have fallen...
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
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This manifests itself in both the games they decide to develop, the games they decide to publish and the restrictions they places on studios they purchase. EA almost exclusively churns out bland, generic crap that we've seen over and over again.
Thats fine for sports / simulation games which requires no imagination: just make your game as close to the real thing as possible, no creativity needed. Its why EA Sports does so well and has done so for its entire history.
However, as soon as EA branch out from sports / simulations, they just seem to panic. If its something new/innovative, its a risk, and EA doesn't take risks. They lack the foresight / understanding to really get new features and see how they could improve the genre and help make the game a success. Its this institutional problem that results in all the studios they purchase dieing out. If you stifle creativity, studios stop producing good games, revenue drops and so the studio gets scrapped.
I personally have followed the advice of some of the posters here and now vote with my wallet. I haven't bought an EA game for 3 years and don't intend to do so. Almost every EA game I've bought has been a massive let down, falling far short of the potential offered. The exception are sports games, which admittedly I hardly play any more but EA still has a good rep for them.
Only EA game I'd consider buying in the future is Skate 4 (if it ever gets made). I loved the first 3 Skate games and despite the lack of innovation, missed features etc, the core of the game has always been good.
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It's what EA has done for some time, buy up popular studios and put them on treadmills so the products are released in incomplete form with as much earning potential as possible at the expense of art and quality. Then, seemingly unknowing of the reasons for internal dissension, they fire the artists and scrap the hearts and souls of the studios, where now only brand recognition zombie husks remain. That has been the EA winning strategy for over 2 decades.
EA formula which makes them seem an evil empire that generates profit at the cost of degenerate video game genre is what gives EA the appearance of an evil empire that generates profit at the cost of degenerate video game genre. I have no clue who argues otherwise.
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EA is a corporation which has a responsibility to make money for it's shareholders. It's doing that and seems to be successful. All the negative publicity comes from the players, who continue to slop up their products despite their hate towards the company.
As long as the players keep gobbling up their content, their business practices will not change...AND THEY SHOULDN'T...because a corporations main focus is profit, and that is a good thing.
Nope, it's a service industry and the main focus should be providing a service to players. The focus on profit only is the problem not the solution.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey