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ArenaNet on the ESL Pro League Championships

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited February 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageArenaNet on the ESL Pro League Championships

The first finals for the Guild Wars 2 ESL Pro League are coming up this weekend, and we sat down with ArenaNet’s Competitive Brand Manager, Joshua Davis to chat about the league, the championships this weekend, and the future.

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  • AnthurAnthur Member UncommonPosts: 961
    I like cheese on my pizza. But man, I really don't want cheese on everything I eat.

    And regarding dreams, not in my worst nightmares did I ever dream about esport in MMORPGs. Not once.
  • stio89stio89 Member UncommonPosts: 85
    Guild War 2 will never be taken seriously in e-sports, Keep dreaming arenanet.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    stio89 said:
    Guild War 2 will never be taken seriously in e-sports, Keep dreaming arenanet.
    waaaaaaaaaah, i dont like GW2 so it will never be taken seriously, waaaaaaaaaaaah.

    Sorry, thats all i hear when people complain about games without giving a concrete reason to back up their opinion.




  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I will make this short and to the point,pro league gaming is a very shallow way to garner interest to your game.Sadly it does  work for the developer,but does nothing for me as a gamer looking for better quality games.
    Normally Blizzard is all over this kind of nonsense but in Hearthstone they lucked out because they ended up getting multi millions of supporters without raising a finger to do anything constructive for the game.

    Look at the top Twitch games,all related to pro gaming>>>$$$$$,sad when gaming fun ONLY becomes important when money is involved.
    I am not saying the case for GW2 but NORMALLY pro gaming also forces out way more money in the cash shop because when money is involved gamer's are impatient and will want to speed things up.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • stio89stio89 Member UncommonPosts: 85



    stio89 said:

    Guild War 2 will never be taken seriously in e-sports, Keep dreaming arenanet.


    waaaaaaaaaah, i dont like GW2 so it will never be taken seriously, waaaaaaaaaaaah.

    Sorry, thats all i hear when people complain about games without giving a concrete reason to back up their opinion.



    Who's complaining? I'm simply stating cold hard truths.

    It's not my fault you're too much of a fanboy to see reason.

    Per month LoL has 67+ million players, Dota 2 12+ million, CS-GO 5+ million, Smite 8+ million.

    I'd be very very surprised gw2 pvp has ever hit 10k players a month.

    Poor popularity along with the basic button mashy combat and blatant p2w are the main reasons why gw2 pvp will never be taken seriously in e-sports. arenanet are delusional.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    edited February 2016
    stio89 said:



    stio89 said:

    Guild War 2 will never be taken seriously in e-sports, Keep dreaming arenanet.


    waaaaaaaaaah, i dont like GW2 so it will never be taken seriously, waaaaaaaaaaaah.

    Sorry, thats all i hear when people complain about games without giving a concrete reason to back up their opinion.



    Who's complaining? I'm simply stating cold hard truths.

    It's not my fault you're too much of a fanboy to see reason.

    Per month LoL has 67+ million players, Dota 2 12+ million, CS-GO 5+ million, Smite 8+ million.

    I'd be very very surprised gw2 pvp has ever hit 10k players a month.

    Poor popularity along with the basic button mashy combat and blatant p2w are the main reasons why gw2 pvp will never be taken seriously in e-sports. arenanet are delusional.
    have they ever said they want to beat those games at esports? i havent heard of it. Just because those 3 games have a bagillion players doing esports doesnt mean other games cant be successful with less people.
    Following your logic then WoW is the only successful mmo, which is not the case.

    Not being a fanboy, my answer applies to all games. I dont do esports and i dont care about esports, but just because X game has a trillion people doesnt mean a game with half of that cant succeed doing the same thing.




  • kenshin2021kenshin2021 Member UncommonPosts: 6
    There's is no p2w in the GW2 pvp... Have you even played the game?
  • freegamesfreegames Member UncommonPosts: 240
    edited February 2016
    I really liked the IGN proleague when it started with the Starcraft 2 tournaments.
    The game is interesting, the commentary is good and relevent it was quite exciting to watch.
    The EVO Championship is also quite entertaining and fun to watch.
    I know there are bigger tournaments like ESL, Dreamhack, International, WCG.
    Really liked Starcraft and Starcraft 2 before HOTS because there is to much micromanagement now Harder to be interested in GW2 when the matches are rarely even, but with the recent patch changes hopefully the game will be more interesting to watch and balanced.
  • APThugAPThug Member RarePosts: 543
    As a long time gw2 player I can safely say that; if you don't play/ understand each class including their map rotations and you watched a pvp match, you wouldn't understand a single thing thats happening. Only if you've played the game long enough, would you come to understand its true complexity.

    Thats why most MMO's don't really have a large esports scene. Games like Street Fighter or counter strike are far more easier to watch/ understand. Even for people who've never played it.

    GW2 pro leagues is pretty much only for gw2 players/ fans that are interested in it. If you don't play gw2 i can see why it may not appeal to you, but players who like it exist.

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  • mazutmazut Member UncommonPosts: 988
    I play the game and i don't give a ***** about this... Stop shoving it in out faces...
  • Righteous_RockRighteous_Rock Member RarePosts: 1,234
    I take it your not very good at esports so therefore you hate esports. Way to not give it a chance.
  • mazutmazut Member UncommonPosts: 988


    I take it your not very good at esports so therefore you hate esports. Way to not give it a chance.



    Im very good at pvp, but still don't give a **** about it ;)
  • pinktailzpinktailz Member UncommonPosts: 173
    they better make content for game instead of those lol "pro" leagues esport bull
  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    edited February 2016
    I take it your not very good at esports so therefore you hate esports. Way to not give it a chance.

    I like e-sports and competitive PVP a lot, but GW2's "esport" scene is garbage. Last time I watched one, which was awhile ago, there were so many delays and so much time between games, and the commentators sounded like they were casting from a dorm room somewhere. 
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906

    @Wizardry ; GW2 gives you no reason whatsoever to spend money in the cash shop for spvp.

    @stio89 ; You played the League of Legends card?  Really?

    @APThug ; There are millions of people watching football and have not much of a clue whats going on either.  Same can be said of all sports.

    @mazut ; If we only worried about what you think then this website woulda went down years ago.

    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • carotidcarotid Member UncommonPosts: 425
    filmoret said:

    @Wizardry ; GW2 gives you no reason whatsoever to spend money in the cash shop for spvp.

    OK.


    @stio89 ; You played the League of Legends card?  Really?

    Yeah, so? DOTA 2, Smite, CS-GO, HOTS, Starcraft, etc., etc.


    @APThug ; There are millions of people watching football and have not much of a clue whats going on either.  Same can be said of all sports.

    Stupid statement.


    @mazut ; If we only worried about what you think then this website woulda went down years ago.

    You totally missed the point.


  • RockardRockard Member UncommonPosts: 206
    edited February 2016
    I'm so excited../yawn
  • RockardRockard Member UncommonPosts: 206

    APThug said:


    GW2 pro leagues is pretty much only for the 1% of gw2 players/ fans that are interested in it.



    Fixed for clarity.
    It's a couple thousand players actively engaged.The rest of us are there for the lolz.
  • PinoXPinoX Member UncommonPosts: 71
    GW2 esport "insert no 1 cares meme"
  • mazutmazut Member UncommonPosts: 988

    filmoret said:

    @Wizardry ; GW2 gives you no reason whatsoever to spend money in the cash shop for spvp.

    @stio89 ; You played the League of Legends card?  Really?

    @APThug ; There are millions of people watching football and have not much of a clue whats going on either.  Same can be said of all sports.

    @mazut ; If we only worried about what you think then this website woulda went down years ago.




    If you don't care, why do you answer me and all the others :D
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    mazut said:

    filmoret said:

    @Wizardry ; GW2 gives you no reason whatsoever to spend money in the cash shop for spvp.

    @stio89 ; You played the League of Legends card?  Really?

    @APThug ; There are millions of people watching football and have not much of a clue whats going on either.  Same can be said of all sports.

    @mazut ; If we only worried about what you think then this website woulda went down years ago.




    If you don't care, why do you answer me and all the others :D

    Where did I say I don't care?


    @carotid wow you have me speechless

    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • Righteous_RockRighteous_Rock Member RarePosts: 1,234
    mazut said:


    I take it your not very good at esports so therefore you hate esports. Way to not give it a chance.



    Im very good at pvp, but still don't give a **** about it ;)
    You didn't even give it a chance though, you should buy a ticket and go check it out, it's really quite remarkable to see 12 year old little oriental boys and spoiled brats getting all pissed off about losing at video games and totally worth your time and money.
  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    mazut said:


    I take it your not very good at esports so therefore you hate esports. Way to not give it a chance.



    Im very good at pvp, but still don't give a **** about it ;)
    You didn't even give it a chance though, you should buy a ticket and go check it out, it's really quite remarkable to see 12 year old little oriental boys and spoiled brats getting all pissed off about losing at video games and totally worth your time and money.
    Most pro-gamers are generally well mannered and mature. It's the try-hard randoms that think they're good who do the majority of the complaining and flaming. 
  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    Just another reason I will never go back. This is what they focus on....e-sports. Even WvW was treated like an e-sport with seasons and scores and crap. Such a horrible opportunity wasted. I was so looking forward to WvW when it came out too, they completely misrepresented it.
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  • Dagon13Dagon13 Member UncommonPosts: 566
    I watched the video and couldn't tell what was happening. Not because I don't know the game, but because the visuals themselves do nothing to clarify what's going on. It's a smudge of colors and unrecognizable movement. I'm completely at the mercy of the spectators camera, getting stuck on bridges and blinded by pop-in trees.

    This is the difference between GW2 and games like LoL. When a person watches a LoL match they see vivid lines and colors making it easy to see the details of the world. The camera glides effortlessly across the map, never obstructed. Characters are easily recognizable by appearance and skill sets. Even someone that doesn't know the game can learn in watching a single match and go "Look out! That big yellow guy is going to grab you again!"
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