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Division: Watch Level 25 Hard Mode Mission from the Perspectives of Marksman/Support/CloseQuarters

ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Nice videos.  You can't really do a close quarters against cleaners... flamethrowers are rough.



  • MoodsorMoodsor Member UncommonPosts: 712
    maskedweasel said:
    Nice videos.  You can't really do a close quarters against cleaners... flamethrowers are rough.
    Hehe yeah, first time i ran into a flamethrower boss in a mission i got roasted.

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  • Jonas_SGJonas_SG Member UncommonPosts: 475
    edited February 2016

    They keep on avoiding showing the end game, and even talking about it. This is not a good sign.

    However the damage difference between Open Beta and This video is scary. I never like seeing such high numbers. Balancing this would be a nightmare.


    The scale of the place that they went in on this mission looked more like a Dungeon to me.

  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Moodsor said:
    Nice videos.  You can't really do a close quarters against cleaners... flamethrowers are rough.
    Hehe yeah, first time i ran into a flamethrower boss in a mission i got roasted.
    You talking about the mission to get the "Tech guy"? Luckily I was teamed up with someone else so it was pretty easy, I just kept in cover circling around him while my teammate kept aggro on him.

    As far as the videos: Man it's painful watching someone play a shooter with a controller. I can't do it.

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  • corvascorvas Member UncommonPosts: 151
    I couldnt watch the marksman video till the end because it bothered me alot that he didnt used that class to it full potention ... like the scope and aiming for the head instead of the torso.

    Sniper rifles in this game do alot more damage to the head then the body so why keep shooting the body if headshots are doing alot more damage and you have the line of site and the time to aim.

    Dont think the marksman video gives a good image of what it can do in game.
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    corvas said:
    I couldnt watch the marksman video till the end because it bothered me alot that he didnt used that class to it full potention ... like the scope and aiming for the head instead of the torso.

    Sniper rifles in this game do alot more damage to the head then the body so why keep shooting the body if headshots are doing alot more damage and you have the line of site and the time to aim.

    Dont think the marksman video gives a good image of what it can do in game.
    Consoles. He was playing on a console. Or at least using a controller. He would be lucky if he could hit the broad side of a barn.

    I do agree with using scopes properly and aiming for the head. I had some mods on my rifle that gave me extra XP for headshots.

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  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    bartoni33 said:
    corvas said:
    I couldnt watch the marksman video till the end because it bothered me alot that he didnt used that class to it full potention ... like the scope and aiming for the head instead of the torso.

    Sniper rifles in this game do alot more damage to the head then the body so why keep shooting the body if headshots are doing alot more damage and you have the line of site and the time to aim.

    Dont think the marksman video gives a good image of what it can do in game.
    Consoles. He was playing on a console. Or at least using a controller. He would be lucky if he could hit the broad side of a barn.

    I do agree with using scopes properly and aiming for the head. I had some mods on my rifle that gave me extra XP for headshots.
    I been playing on pc version using gamepad and get headshots all the time
  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,368
    edited February 2016
    so basically we will fighting the same enemies the whole time? from lvl 1 to 25?  still to see a sniper enemy or anything that isnt a guy with a baseball bat running to u (those are a bit retarded...and makes no sense they hurt? yeah if u are reckless and dont know how to roll.... (by default space x2) but who brings a baseball bat to a gunfight? lol) , flamethrower guys stupid as hell too ,move slowly ....u can avoid the fire with easy sprinting when they are close, and common enemies with machine guns and whatnot...

    the IA in this game needs work because everything is so easy, u only get killed if u want....
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    ElRenmazuo said:
    bartoni33 said:
    corvas said:
    I couldnt watch the marksman video till the end because it bothered me alot that he didnt used that class to it full potention ... like the scope and aiming for the head instead of the torso.

    Sniper rifles in this game do alot more damage to the head then the body so why keep shooting the body if headshots are doing alot more damage and you have the line of site and the time to aim.

    Dont think the marksman video gives a good image of what it can do in game.
    Consoles. He was playing on a console. Or at least using a controller. He would be lucky if he could hit the broad side of a barn.

    I do agree with using scopes properly and aiming for the head. I had some mods on my rifle that gave me extra XP for headshots.
    I been playing on pc version using gamepad and get headshots all the time
    Why the hell would you use a controller on PC, unless you are disabled then I understand. That's like using your knees to drive your car. You can do it but you have much less control.

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  • Jonas_SGJonas_SG Member UncommonPosts: 475
    Warlyx said:
    the AI in this game needs work because everything is so easy, u only get killed if u want....

    That depends on the difficulty level, one can set it befor starting the mission. Unfortinatelly in Open Beta the slider only showed Normal difficulty.

    NPC in the Dark Zone on the other hand, hit really hard.

  • StormtrooperDHStormtrooperDH Member UncommonPosts: 18
    Jonas_SG said:
    Warlyx said:
    the AI in this game needs work because everything is so easy, u only get killed if u want....

    That depends on the difficulty level, one can set it befor starting the mission. Unfortinatelly in Open Beta the slider only showed Normal difficulty.

    NPC in the Dark Zone on the other hand, hit really hard.

    I played the Madison Hospital mission on hard mode. 
  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    bartoni33 said:

    Why the hell would you use a controller on PC, unless you are disabled then I understand. That's like using your knees to drive your car. You can do it but you have much less control.
    Because its more fun and I have plenty of control and kill tons of people while I lay down side ways on my couch.  Stop trying to tell me I have much less control, I feel no struggle at all lol its like 2nd nature to me.



  • Joseph_KerrJoseph_Kerr Member RarePosts: 1,113
    Jonas_SG said:
    Warlyx said:
    the AI in this game needs work because everything is so easy, u only get killed if u want....

    That depends on the difficulty level, one can set it befor starting the mission. Unfortinatelly in Open Beta the slider only showed Normal difficulty.

    NPC in the Dark Zone on the other hand, hit really hard.

    And have better aim.
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    ElRenmazuo said:
    bartoni33 said:

    Why the hell would you use a controller on PC, unless you are disabled then I understand. That's like using your knees to drive your car. You can do it but you have much less control.
    Because its more fun and I have plenty of control and kill tons of people while I lay down side ways on my couch.  Stop trying to tell me I have much less control, I feel no struggle at all lol its like 2nd nature to me.



    Well I do see where the extra challenge could be fun.

    I just got a mental image of you sitting on your couch upside down with your feet in the air and your head on the ground playing The Division by looking through a mirror! O.o

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  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    bartoni33 said:
    ElRenmazuo said:
    bartoni33 said:

    Why the hell would you use a controller on PC, unless you are disabled then I understand. That's like using your knees to drive your car. You can do it but you have much less control.
    Because its more fun and I have plenty of control and kill tons of people while I lay down side ways on my couch.  Stop trying to tell me I have much less control, I feel no struggle at all lol its like 2nd nature to me.



    Well I do see where the extra challenge could be fun.
    If you say so
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    ElRenmazuo said:
    bartoni33 said:
    ElRenmazuo said:
    bartoni33 said:

    Why the hell would you use a controller on PC, unless you are disabled then I understand. That's like using your knees to drive your car. You can do it but you have much less control.
    Because its more fun and I have plenty of control and kill tons of people while I lay down side ways on my couch.  Stop trying to tell me I have much less control, I feel no struggle at all lol its like 2nd nature to me.



    Well I do see where the extra challenge could be fun.
    If you say so
    Well you are the one that said it was fun. I'm not being sarcastic by the way. I know it can be hard to tell sometimes. I know I don't like being told how to "play games properly" myself. MMO players are really bad about that. I'm sorry if it came off that way. I just never thought about using a controller to make playing a game more fun. i guess it's because I never played consoles that much other than SNES and PS1 decades ago. I do have a 360 to play when my PC goes tits up every few years.

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  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    bartoni33 said:
    ElRenmazuo said:
    bartoni33 said:
    ElRenmazuo said:
    bartoni33 said:

    Why the hell would you use a controller on PC, unless you are disabled then I understand. That's like using your knees to drive your car. You can do it but you have much less control.
    Because its more fun and I have plenty of control and kill tons of people while I lay down side ways on my couch.  Stop trying to tell me I have much less control, I feel no struggle at all lol its like 2nd nature to me.



    Well I do see where the extra challenge could be fun.
    If you say so
    Well you are the one that said it was fun. I'm not being sarcastic by the way. I know it can be hard to tell sometimes. I know I don't like being told how to "play games properly" myself. MMO players are really bad about that. I'm sorry if it came off that way. I just never thought about using a controller to make playing a game more fun. i guess it's because I never played consoles that much other than SNES and PS1 decades ago. I do have a 360 to play when my PC goes tits up every few years.
    okay
  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias Member UncommonPosts: 562
    At Marker 21:21 the 2 circles form a smiley face on the left hand side of screen in first video
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Warlyx said:
    so basically we will fighting the same enemies the whole time? from lvl 1 to 25?  still to see a sniper enemy or anything that isnt a guy with a baseball bat running to u (those are a bit retarded...and makes no sense they hurt? yeah if u are reckless and dont know how to roll.... (by default space x2) but who brings a baseball bat to a gunfight? lol) , flamethrower guys stupid as hell too ,move slowly ....u can avoid the fire with easy sprinting when they are close, and common enemies with machine guns and whatnot...

    the IA in this game needs work because everything is so easy, u only get killed if u want....
    I don't think you got into the game very much if thats how you feel. Its really not an easy game. They do have snipers, they have shielded axe wielders,  large flame thrower bosses, smaller ones as well, guys with bats, and a bunch of machine gunners and heavy gunners in between.   They will flank you and overload you as well.  The guys with Bats are some of the tougher enemies if you don't have a great close range weapon,  and usually they stream in when you're behind cover.

    They are easy to kill and as long as you roll out of the way you'll be able to prevent getting hit, but that doesn't mean you won't roll into something else more dangerous. 



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