running the game on a 4 year old alienware, i7 dual 7970M and 16GB memmory
At full HD max settings and well above 60 fps..
i dont think the game requirements are extremely high, if a 4 year old Bricked laptop can run at max settings.. On a desktop i would never go for the top GPU, allways one step below..
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Dunno if anyone has pointed this out but MMOs are EXTREMELY CPU dependent, they rely on mostly processor strength not GPU.
yes someone mentioned that before and it's not true. Most mmo's are GPU dependent, and some are both GPU & CPU dependent.
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stretch your budget to 330 ish dollers and u can get a 970 which is so much better and btw dont go for any amd cards. they are terrible performence and extreamly high watt use + overheating.
this choice is far better then any of what these people say..
I will suggest you suffer a bit until AMD push out their new line of GPU by May;2016. After they release their new ones Nvidia will surely drop down price of a lot of their GPU and you might find a very good one, like perhaps GTX 970 within 300$.
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Dunno if anyone has pointed this out but MMOs are EXTREMELY CPU dependent, they rely on mostly processor strength not GPU.
yes someone mentioned that before and it's not true. Most mmo's are GPU dependent, and some are both GPU & CPU dependent.
Well I'll disagree. As MMOs take far more Processor strength than single players games (generally).
Your logic is flawed (and I actually wonder where it comes from...).
For a MMORPG, many tasks (mob AI, interactions with the world, combat) are managed server side. So it's the CPUs of the servers which perform those tasks. In a single player game, everything is managed by your computer, including those tasks offloaded to the server in a MMORPG.
Depends on the MMO, for instance lets look at the division. All the gun shots are processed client side. Also, the host - client relationship depends too. Does the host wait for the server or the client to update the info? It's far more nuanced than either of us are making it look like. That's why I said 'generally'
I have a serious doubt about the motivations of people who have killer graphic cards and say the game performs terribly, since my card is nothing fantastic by today's standards and runs the game smoothly... go figure.
Kinda the same for my CPU/GPU combo, though I only experienced FPS-lag during CBT1 at the start, where 100s of players were whacking the scarecrows. When I left that spot, the performance was excellent!
I will suggest you suffer a bit until AMD push out their new line of GPU by May;2016. After they release their new ones Nvidia will surely drop down price of a lot of their GPU and you might find a very good one, like perhaps GTX 970 within 300$.
amd is never good and the next one wont be better. Nvidia however explains their pascel is about 10x faster then maxwell.
I run BDO on High End Mode with 45-60FPS with my r9 390. No issues with radeon cards here. That being said, if you NEED one before april, get you 970gtx or a r9 290/390 then upgrade in a few months. Otherwise hold out.
I was going to get an 980ti but i decided to go R9 390 because it would suffice and wouldnt be a huge money loss when I upgrade to pascal
funny lies lol r9 390 is only abit more powerful then 970 so no u dont. high end mode with everything maxed? no way. not on 1080p since i tried it and i get 30 fps
I will suggest you suffer a bit until AMD push out their new line of GPU by May;2016. After they release their new ones Nvidia will surely drop down price of a lot of their GPU and you might find a very good one, like perhaps GTX 970 within 300$.
amd is never good and the next one wont be better. Nvidia however explains their pascel is about 10x faster then maxwell.
Too much fanboy in your post.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I will suggest you suffer a bit until AMD push out their new line of GPU by May;2016. After they release their new ones Nvidia will surely drop down price of a lot of their GPU and you might find a very good one, like perhaps GTX 970 within 300$.
amd is never good and the next one wont be better. Nvidia however explains their pascel is about 10x faster then maxwell.
Too much fanboy in your post.
nope just the hard truth. Amd has and never was good look at all their rebrands of old gpu's the 300 series is more or less a rebrand of 200 series. and doesnt perform that much better. and they overheat like hell the 390 and 390x hits 90-100 and thats not a good thing
I will suggest you suffer a bit until AMD push out their new line of GPU by May;2016. After they release their new ones Nvidia will surely drop down price of a lot of their GPU and you might find a very good one, like perhaps GTX 970 within 300$.
amd is never good and the next one wont be better. Nvidia however explains their pascel is about 10x faster then maxwell.
Too much fanboy in your post.
nope just the hard truth. Amd has and never was good look at all their rebrands of old gpu's the 300 series is more or less a rebrand of 200 series. and doesnt perform that much better. and they overheat like hell the 390 and 390x hits 90-100 and thats not a good thing
My 290x, which is supposed to heat like hell, never goes over 70°C. You really sound like someone who has read bullshit on some bad hardware website or forum and is repeating it.
nope its youtube videos and various people who doesnt bullshit. the 290 was not overheating cause its not overclocked like the 390 is basicly the 300 series is Super overclocked like ashit ton overclock and alot more voltage. hence the higher temp
I have a GTX 980ti. BDO is terrible. Waiting for The Division. Playing FO4 atm.
Lol runs fine on my Gtx 770 :surprised:
i7-4790K GTX 970 OC
Haven't had any problems.
People will always be partial to a brand for one reason or another, it's human nature.
My advice? Go to your favorite benchmark site, compare the numbers/graphs, find your way to a reputable tech site to make sure there's no unforeseen problems as best you can, check your bank acct. and make your decision.
It seems like, after considering everybody's input, the 960 might be the best choice for my current setup, although I'm getting mixed feedback as to weather 4GB will do me any good or not. My CPU is aging (X6 1035T), it was a low power/quiet/ssd setup to begin with. The lighting in my cave is louder than this comp at full steam. The current gpu has passive cooling, for example.
If I want to head the AMD route (380/390), which would likely give me slightly better bang for my buck, I'd have to upgrade my PS. That sort of overrides the better bang for my buck scenario, and puts me on the trail of a new build (but a mobo/cpu isn't gonna happen till next year). Thanks for all the feedback so far.
I've just been researching this myself, since I was in the market for a new card. From everything I've read, if you're not going to go above 1080p, the GTX970 is the best bang for your buck. It's a little out of your range, but there are a few going for about $300-$320 on Newegg. Some have rebates as well, and if you're interested in 'The Division', the 900 series cards on Newegg come with a free copy, which could also be seen as saving yourself an additional $60.
Beyond 1080p you'll most likely want a 980 or 980Ti, but bear in mind that the 970 (again, from what I've been reading) can actually be OC'd to come very, very close to the performance of a 980, while running $100-$150 less. I think you can actually (if you have the power) set up your old card to act as a dedicated Physx processor, freeing up more resources for other things as well. Not 100% on that though.
The next few days spent waiting are gonna suck, lol.
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I'd personally wouldn't upgrade to a 960. It's simply not a great upgrade over your current card.
Better save the money and hope for some discount on a higher cost card if you don't want an amd card.
You're probably right. The game runs pretty smooth now, i'm at about 30 (28-35) fps on high/very high...until i get into heavily trafficked areas. Then I get spikes in the teens. Is it gonna be a huge upgrade? Probably not.
Maybe what I should be asking is, is it gonna get me through those spikes? For this particular title, I'm not looking to lower my settings unless i absolutely have to.
I will suggest you suffer a bit until AMD push out their new line of GPU by May;2016. After they release their new ones Nvidia will surely drop down price of a lot of their GPU and you might find a very good one, like perhaps GTX 970 within 300$.
amd is never good and the next one wont be better. Nvidia however explains their pascel is about 10x faster then maxwell.
Too much fanboy in your post.
nope just the hard truth. Amd has and never was good look at all their rebrands of old gpu's the 300 series is more or less a rebrand of 200 series. and doesnt perform that much better. and they overheat like hell the 390 and 390x hits 90-100 and thats not a good thing
It will help for sure but to me personally seems like a waste of money. The 960 just like your 750 is more aimed to be more power efficient for the average customer than being a card made for gaming to last you a couple of years.
I upgraded my graphic card recently and was thinking about the 960 too due to the price but when you compare it with cards like the 970, R9 290/280x you'll realize it's not that great of a jump. In my case tough I have a 650W power supply so I could afford a more demanding card.
I ended up picking an R9 290 Sapphire Tri-X.
It's obviously just my opinion as I'm no expert on all cards but I do remember getting scolded to not get a card like that for reasons stated above :P
I don't have enough money to buy a new card, atm I have a gtx 760 tried the cb2 and got ok fps 30-40fps with high settings with some tweaks and under 30 fps in towns. My friend are about to buy a new card and hes willing to sell me his 960 with 4 gigvram for cheap price. My cpu is a i7-3770 3.50GHz with 16 gig ram.
Would I get better performance or slightly better our about the same, would I notice a difference?
I don't have enough money to buy a new card, atm I have a gtx 760 tried the cb2 and got ok fps 30-40fps with high settings with some tweaks and under 30 fps in towns. My friend are about to buy a new card and hes willing to sell me his 960 with 4 gigvram for cheap price. My cpu is a i7-3770 3.50GHz with 16 gig ram.
Would I get better performance or slightly better our about the same, would I notice a difference?
The general info I found was the 960 would just beat out that 760. In the neighborhood of 10-20% performance increase. It might be worth it if your friend is selling on the cheap. I keep going back and forth...I might just wait -- run the game cropped until the next gens hits the shelf.
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At full HD max settings and well above 60 fps..
i dont think the game requirements are extremely high, if a 4 year old Bricked laptop can run at max settings.. On a desktop i would never go for the top GPU, allways one step below..
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Example of what I'm talking about Stays. This guy has a far worse graphics card, yet it runs just fine. Why? CPU.
this choice is far better then any of what these people say..
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx970gaming4g
a gtx 970 for only 303$ and performs around 2x 960 and far better the then any amd choice
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Also, the host - client relationship depends too. Does the host wait for the server or the client to update the info?
It's far more nuanced than either of us are making it look like.
That's why I said 'generally'
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GTX 970 OC
Haven't had any problems.
People will always be partial to a brand for one reason or another, it's human nature.
My advice?
Go to your favorite benchmark site, compare the numbers/graphs, find your way to a reputable tech site to make sure there's no unforeseen problems as best you can, check your bank acct. and make your decision.
If I want to head the AMD route (380/390), which would likely give me slightly better bang for my buck, I'd have to upgrade my PS. That sort of overrides the better bang for my buck scenario, and puts me on the trail of a new build (but a mobo/cpu isn't gonna happen till next year). Thanks for all the feedback so far.
Better save the money and hope for some discount on a higher cost card if you don't want an amd card.
Beyond 1080p you'll most likely want a 980 or 980Ti, but bear in mind that the 970 (again, from what I've been reading) can actually be OC'd to come very, very close to the performance of a 980, while running $100-$150 less. I think you can actually (if you have the power) set up your old card to act as a dedicated Physx processor, freeing up more resources for other things as well. Not 100% on that though.
The next few days spent waiting are gonna suck, lol.
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Maybe what I should be asking is, is it gonna get me through those spikes? For this particular title, I'm not looking to lower my settings unless i absolutely have to.
Nope, its not he hard truth.
Its fanboy talk just like he said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne8VWuE2a4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHhPOvlnLGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJpy9hlfIkA
Also they are not rebrands.
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-390-390x-not-rebadges-power-optimization/
I upgraded my graphic card recently and was thinking about the 960 too due to the price but when you compare it with cards like the 970, R9 290/280x you'll realize it's not that great of a jump. In my case tough I have a 650W power supply so I could afford a more demanding card.
I ended up picking an R9 290 Sapphire Tri-X.
It's obviously just my opinion as I'm no expert on all cards but I do remember getting scolded to not get a card like that for reasons stated above :P
My friend are about to buy a new card and hes willing to sell me his 960 with 4 gigvram for cheap price.
My cpu is a i7-3770 3.50GHz with 16 gig ram.
Would I get better performance or slightly better our about the same, would I notice a difference?