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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.




  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    TaishiFox said:
    Also, glad other people are with me on what I said to OP, if I'm not the only one I can't be that wrong about it.
    Naw you're not wrong about it, just the OP is just full of it.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160227041427/https://www.blackdesertonline.com/preorder/
  • TaishiFoxTaishiFox Member RarePosts: 999
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    I believe Travellers is supposed to be tomorrow.  Yesterday was Conjuerors, today was Explorers, tomorrow is Travellers and Thursday is release.

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    TaishiFox said:
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    I believe Travellers is supposed to be tomorrow.  Yesterday was Conjuerors, today was Explorers, tomorrow is Travellers and Thursday is release.
    i upgraded to explorer before the due date, i should be able to have early access today.




  • TaishiFoxTaishiFox Member RarePosts: 999
    TaishiFox said:
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    I believe Travellers is supposed to be tomorrow.  Yesterday was Conjuerors, today was Explorers, tomorrow is Travellers and Thursday is release.
    i upgraded to explorer before the due date, i should be able to have early access today.
    Ok, well, you didn't say that before.  However perhaps if you didn't upgrade til after the 26th that you didn't get the extra day? when did you upgrade?

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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    TaishiFox said:
    TaishiFox said:
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    I believe Travellers is supposed to be tomorrow.  Yesterday was Conjuerors, today was Explorers, tomorrow is Travellers and Thursday is release.
    i upgraded to explorer before the due date, i should be able to have early access today.
    Ok, well, you didn't say that before.  However perhaps if you didn't upgrade til after the 26th that you didn't get the extra day? when did you upgrade?
    It's clearly written in the first post rojo made.

  • TaishiFoxTaishiFox Member RarePosts: 999
    Bloodaxes said:
    TaishiFox said:
    TaishiFox said:
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    I believe Travellers is supposed to be tomorrow.  Yesterday was Conjuerors, today was Explorers, tomorrow is Travellers and Thursday is release.
    i upgraded to explorer before the due date, i should be able to have early access today.
    Ok, well, you didn't say that before.  However perhaps if you didn't upgrade til after the 26th that you didn't get the extra day? when did you upgrade?
    It's clearly written in the first post rojo made.
    Ohh.. I didn't notice, my bad.. a little blunt on pointing that out though.. Well best of luck with getting that sorted then rojo.

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  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340
    Bloodaxes said:
    TaishiFox said:
    TaishiFox said:
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    I believe Travellers is supposed to be tomorrow.  Yesterday was Conjuerors, today was Explorers, tomorrow is Travellers and Thursday is release.
    i upgraded to explorer before the due date, i should be able to have early access today.
    Ok, well, you didn't say that before.  However perhaps if you didn't upgrade til after the 26th that you didn't get the extra day? when did you upgrade?
    It's clearly written in the first post rojo made.
    Depends on where he lived. UTC time is +/- time zones. It could be just short of the wire?
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  • mittybrahmittybrah Member UncommonPosts: 7
    edited March 2016
    mark2123 said:
    Bought the Explorers pack which advertised a pre-start of 0800 today (UTC time), which has passed.  
    No no, you dont understand, there are PREorders, and then there is buying the game before it launches. Its completely different. Can't you read ? :-)
  • HeraseHerase Member RarePosts: 993
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    That is a legit question problem tbh.

    to the topic -

    From what I noticed on the boards most people who said they didn't know openly admitted they didn't bother readying what they bought first, think my favourite was when someone said "Why would a read the news updates about a game I'm buying"
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    TaishiFox said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    It's clearly written in the first post rojo made.
    Ohh.. I didn't notice, my bad.. a little blunt on pointing that out though.. Well best of luck with getting that sorted then rojo.
    Uhm... sorry? 

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    edited March 2016
    Herase said:
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    That is a legit question problem tbh.

    to the topic -

    From what I noticed on the boards most people who said they didn't know openly admitted they didn't bother readying what they bought first, think my favourite was when someone said "Why would a read the news updates about a game I'm buying"
    at first i thought i made that same mistake, then i went to my account purchase history and noticed i did upgrade before the 26th so i should be able to access the game today.

    @ArChWind, im east coast US, Its supossed to be 5 hour difference (6 with daylight time change). Its 2 pm EST right now and still no access.

    I just received a typical automated answer to my ticket and no solution . I replied back re-explaining the situation, i'm waiting for a human reply.

    EDIT: also, all my claim items are available to be claimed.




  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340
    Herase said:
    I pre-ordered traveler's package on february 11th, upgraded to explorer's on the 25th, and i dont have access today. I submitted a ticket, waiting for response.
    That is a legit question problem tbh.

    to the topic -

    From what I noticed on the boards most people who said they didn't know openly admitted they didn't bother readying what they bought first, think my favourite was when someone said "Why would a read the news updates about a game I'm buying"
    at first i thought i made that same mistake, then i went to my account purchase history and noticed i did upgrade before the 26th so i should be able to access the game today.

    @ArChWind, im east coast US, Its supossed to be 5 hour difference (6 with daylight time change). Its 2 pm EST right now and still no access.

    I just received a typical automated answer to my ticket and no solution . I replied back re-explaining the situation, i'm waiting for a human reply.

    Things are fairly hectic there. Looks like you are legit. Sucks to have to wait but just don't rage. :)
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  • bob349erbob349er Member UncommonPosts: 3
    Some real twits in this thread. 

    Let me demonstrate with pictures since some of you are utterly incapable of understanding a coherent narrative with out them.

    You go to Blackdesertonline.com, and it looks like this:


    You see the 'Black Desert Online Important Pre-launch Information page' and think, that looks important, i'll start there, and you're greeted with this:

    As you can see there is no mention of any 26th  pre-order date which we now know is so critical, apparently. It simply states that pre-orders for conquerer, explorer, and traveler are entitled to early access at those dates. Keep in mind no official launch has occurred. You have no reason to suspect an order prior to launch is not a pre-order. Keep in mind this is the most recent, and therefore supposed to be the most accurate News Release. It still appears as above on their webpage, they still have not edited this page.

    You click the order button and see this:

    (The above page has since been edited to indicate a March 3rd access date with additional details lower. Feel free to verify the above existed via the waybackmachine)

    Clearly there is no Conquerer' package, but there is still an explorers package, and as the previous news item said Explorers can start on March first, and this page does not indicate anything different.

    So you buy the explorer pack, you download, and patch and it says this:


    Do you get it? The most recent news item, the packages page, and the launcher do not indicate any special date for pre-order. There was no way of interpreting the above information to mean that orders after the 26th would not get these early access dates.

    All the updates to the above pages and launcher were made March 1st or after in response to the thousands that thought they had Early Access packages.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    bob349er said:
    Some real twits in this thread. 

    Do you get it? The most recent news item, the packages page, and the launcher do not indicate any special date for pre-order. There was no way of interpreting the above information to mean that orders after the 26th would not get these early access dates.

    All the updates to the above pages and launcher were made March 1st or after in response to the thousands that thought they had Early Access packages.
    Or you know you could have read the news piece that's titled "Do not miss these key dates" or the "Thank you for playing" and with a little common sense figured out that you should buy before the 26th. Alternatively reading the actual game package page and not seeing headstart access as a feature should have also tipped people off.

    If you don't read what you are buying or bother to do a little research through google then don't be surprised when you are called a moron for whining about not getting access when you aren't entitled to it.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited March 2016
    I tried several times during BETA to login and just could not,the game couldn't find a login address,so i'll would be damned if i would risk any money on a game that would have me jump through hoops to figure out something that SHOULD be ready to go by now.

    It is a good thing i never jumped in anyhow,i found out more information later that just doesn't sit well with me,although i like stuff like the bandits but i hear even that system is generic "all level 50 bots" where as in Silkroad Online they would spawn varied to your level to make it interesting.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Kefo said:
    bob349er said:
    Some real twits in this thread. 

    Do you get it? The most recent news item, the packages page, and the launcher do not indicate any special date for pre-order. There was no way of interpreting the above information to mean that orders after the 26th would not get these early access dates.

    All the updates to the above pages and launcher were made March 1st or after in response to the thousands that thought they had Early Access packages.
    Or you know you could have read the news piece that's titled "Do not miss these key dates" or the "Thank you for playing" and with a little common sense figured out that you should buy before the 26th. Alternatively reading the actual game package page and not seeing headstart access as a feature should have also tipped people off.

    If you don't read what you are buying or bother to do a little research through google then don't be surprised when you are called a moron for whining about not getting access when you aren't entitled to it.
    You know you can file a complaint for misleading advertising,with the FTC in the USA,Canada has it's own as well other countries have their regulatory laws as well.
    I remember seeing one of them actually had premade reports so you could send it,basically requesting a response within 7 days and you mail it on behalf of the governing body where you live.

    Geesh if i wasn't so lazy,i would look for those forms and file them myself,businesses should not be allowed to operate misleading like that and it is against the law,it is based on marketing ETHICS code which almost every standard government has.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I should also make note that the law states your marketing/advertising should be CLEAR and concise and be simple enough that children can understand it or even people not so bright,the naive etc etc.Basically you can't even attempt to exploit those that might not see clearly the intent.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • KexinKexin Member UncommonPosts: 69
    edited March 2016
    So these scam artists hid their definition of what a preorder is in a week old beta announcement while they take your money and the white knight defends. Do you really want to establish a financial relationship with a company that goes out of it's way to be so deceptive? Essentially this is the problem. There are thousands of people who can't get in to play the game they paid good money for because they did not PreOrder, the PreOrder PreOrder. Instead they paid for the None PreOrder, PreOrder.   

    Nope! Thats not deceptive or confusing at all. Thanks Korean scam artists for being so transparent!
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Wizardry said:
    I should also make note that the law states your marketing/advertising should be CLEAR and concise and be simple enough that children can understand it or even people not so bright,the naive etc etc.Basically you can't even attempt to exploit those that might not see clearly the intent.

    Pretty sure if my 2 year old could read at the level required for the pre-order page he would be able to tell me it doesn't say head start anywhere on the page.

    Your issue with not being able to login is a valid complaint and I would do the same in your shoes.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Kexin said:
    So these scam artists hid their definition of what a preorder is in a week old beta announcement while they take your money and the white knight defends. Do you really want to establish a financial relationship with a company that goes out of it's way to be so deceptive? Essentially this is the problem. There are thousands of people who can't get in to play the game they paid good money for because they did not PreOrder, the PreOrder PreOrder. Instead they paid for the None PreOrder, PreOrder.   

    Nope! Thats not deceptive or confusing at all. Thanks Korean scam artists for being so transparent!

    Yes I am a white knight lol. I just happen to have an issue with stupidity and people who refuse to read whats presented to them. If they can't read then they should get someone to explain it to them. Point is it didn't say anywhere on the package page that you received head start access. If it was assumed head start was included then that's on the person.
  • TaishiFoxTaishiFox Member RarePosts: 999
    edited March 2016
    afaik it did actually say the offer was over when you click on the Preorder page after 26th and even the Order Now page states at the bottom it does not include early access, if people overlook this before purchasing that is their own fault.

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  • bob349erbob349er Member UncommonPosts: 3
    bob349er said:

    So you buy the explorer pack, you download, and patch and it says this:





    Unless you're color blind and don't see red well, you can't miss it...
    How are you incapable of understanding that the issue was people buying after the 26th but before march first? I posted all screens involved in the process prior to march 1st, and none of them mentioned a 26th date.

    Yes you would have to be a friggin moron to buy a package after the changes were made on March 1st. Those changes were specifically made so that people were properly informed as they should have been from the begining.
  • bob349erbob349er Member UncommonPosts: 3
    edited March 2016
    TaishiFox said:
    afaik it did actually say the offer was over when you click on the Preorder page after 26th and even the Order Now page states at the bottom it does not include early access, if people overlook this before purchasing that is their own fault.
    You don't know what you're talking about.

    I provided the screen shots that showed that they did not show the 26th date.

    - Not on the most recent news page where headstart dates were detailed(I posted a screen shot)
    - Not on the packages page ( I posted a screen shot of the packages prior to the changes daum made march 1st for damage control)
    - Not on the Launcher(prior to their changes on March 1st)

     Since you're incapable of understanding I'll provide screen shots from the wayback machine(again) that show the packages prior to changes made on March 1st, which obviously does not help those that ordered 26th-29th.

    Here we are in English:

    Here we are in....wtf is that, German?

    Both of these screenshots were prior to 10AM UTC on March 1st they updated them 3-4 hours later to the current version. Keep in mind there was  a thread going this entire time in the tech support section of the international section  on the bdo forum. There are plenty of screen shots of the above with timestamps etc.
  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    edited March 2016

    The whining in this thread is mind boggling.  It's not like you will still not be receiving all of the items in the pre-order package.  All you miss out on is a measly 2 or 3 days after which time you will be able to play forever until the end of time.  As a matter of fact, this thread will still be in full display well after midnight tonight, a time at which if you would have cooled your jets and exerted a little patience you could have started playing instead of stomping your feet on the ground like petulant children on temper tantrums threatening and getting refunds for a game that you must have obviously wanted to play so very badly otherwise you would have never bought it before the game had even officially launched.

    /sad 
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