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Nvidia’s next GPU, the rumored GTX 1080, May Release this Spring

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  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    They'll probably have another line with the HBM memory, kinda like what AMD pulled. The HBM cards are R9 Fury (X) and the GDDR5 cards are numerical 3XX. 

    Would be interesting to see how those 14nm beasts perform though. 
  • eye_meye_m Member UncommonPosts: 3,317

    All I can say is that I'm sure glad my existing card has crapped out because what's on the horizon seems pretty exciting.

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  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414
    More than likely AMD wins this generation. They tend to be better when reaching a new process node and adopt memory standards sooner.
  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    I wonder if they'll release a 1080p model.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Not going to happen, except possibly as the thinnest of paper launches.  Think fall, not spring, as the earliest possible date for widespread availability of video cards sporting GDDR5X.  The memory simply won't exist in sufficient volume for commercial products until then.  I'm not predicting that there will be widespread use of GDDR5X in video cards this fall.  I'm only predicting that it won't happen before then.

    AMD showed off working Polaris GPUs publicly just after the start of this year, and is rumored to have done so privately last year.  Nvidia still hasn't shown off working Pascal GPUs publicly, and I haven't seen any rumors of them doing so privately.  Yes, Pascal exists, or at least it will, but it would be shocking if Nvidia has a hard launch before AMD this generation.

    Now, launching first is not the same as winning a generation.  GCN clearly launched before Kepler, but didn't exactly dominate the market once both were available.
  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    edited March 2016
    only 2 options : 
    1) 980 equivalent gddr5x paper launch, 970 and less on gddr5

    2) 970 and 980 equivalent gddr5x even bigger paper launch, 960 and under gddr5

    Titan and 980 Ti with 8GB HBM2 for x-mas

    There is another possibility, though 970, and or 980 launching with 4GB HBM2
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    edited March 2016
    What is possible gets better as the release date gets later.

    Don't expect cheap cards with HBM anytime soon.  For GDDR5 and GDDR5X to go away entirely in favor of HBM is years away at least, if it ever happens.  HBM will start at the top of the product line and move down it in subsequent generations.  It's only a question of how far and how fast.

    And a question of how long discrete video cards are around for.  Once you can get a good APU with HBM in a laptop, discrete laptop cards are just about dead.  Discrete video cards will hang around longer in desktops, but it's only a matter of time before the latest and greatest $200 discrete cards lose to integrated graphics.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Jean-Luc_Picard said:
    Quizzical said:
    Don't expect cheap cards with HBM anytime soon. 
    Yet the Fury, with HBM, is cheaper than the 980 ti, with DDR5. Here it's a 150 to 200€ difference, not negligible. Go figure.
    There are a lot of things that you can do in a $500 card that aren't economically viable in a $100 card.  And I don't consider a $500 GPU to be "cheap".  There's a good chance that it costs less to build a GTX 980 Ti than it does a Fury.
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    And there is also the green tax - the cost for the privilege of using nVidia. They always seem to be just a bit more expensive just because.

    I'd be amazed if either Pascal or Polaris physically ship before the end of June.
  • toomuch4212toomuch4212 Member UncommonPosts: 82
    Why do I feel like the recycled 8800gt's all the way up past gts250 recycling is going to repeat itself in practice this next batch of "10xx" lines?

    5-10 years and your video card will be processed at a server farm and streamed to your VR set/computer/console box and charged a monthly fee. Technically Nvidia was doing this tech with the shield streaming service Grid and wasn't even that bad in beta (refuse to pay for it when I can just stream better system throughout my house) But could be a viable option and replacement for steam boxes for people who don't have lots of money or lots to spend at once. Like leasing a car without having to store it ever. Just have it magically accessible when you need to drive. With some of these upcoming requirements I've seen for new games (even console ports or at least simultaneous releases) games optimized for such a service   

    Also, I hope the new line of Nvidia cards comes out in the next 6 months. I'd like to replace my GTX 780(my 680 took a shit so I got a 780 for my backup rig right before release of 9xx series sadly) with a 980Ti for under 500 that's not a performance cut (zotac). I'm hopeful of a price drop for 980 and maybe 980Ti but I doubt I will be able to add a second card to my main rig (Titan X) because the cards never seem to go down. (personally I would have went with SLi 980ti's but this was prior to their releas and the Titan was a gift...
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    edited March 2016
    5-10 years and your video card will be processed at a server farm and streamed to your VR set/computer/console box and charged a monthly fee. Technically Nvidia was doing this tech with the shield streaming service Grid and wasn't even that bad in beta (refuse to pay for it when I can just stream better system throughout my house) But could be a viable option and replacement for steam boxes for people who don't have lots of money or lots to spend at once.
    That's never going to happen outside of the very low end, and even there, it's going to be purely a marketing phenomenon that tech-savvy gamers avoid like a plague.  The gaming experience on a 4 year old rig that cost $600 when new is always going to be superior from the state of the art streaming over the Internet service.  Given how much bandwidth the latter can eat up, the local desktop option will likely be cheaper, too. 

    CPUs need to be a certain size to have the necessary pin-outs to function, but cores keep getting exponentially smaller.  That leaves ever increasing amounts of die space with nothing to use it for except an ever more powerful GPU.  Once HBM eventually becomes cheaper than DDR4 (replacing your system memory entirely), bandwidth won't be a problem, either.  No such jump in Internet bandwidth is on the horizon.
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