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cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,410
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I am seeking clarification. When can someone kill you in PvP or when is PvP enabled in the game ? Is there some level in which you are absolutely safe from PvP ?
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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    If I'm not mistaken, you're safe until level 45+.

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  • GladDogGladDog Member RarePosts: 1,097
    Level 30 is when PvP is enabled.  So if you don't want to be ganked, stop at 29.


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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,410
    Level 30 oh god good thing I found out before I bought it. Wait 45 or 30 ?
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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    edited March 2016
    GladDog said:
    Level 30 is when PvP is enabled.  So if you don't want to be ganked, stop at 29.
    I've been over 30 for the whole week... and I haven't gotten into a single fight so far...
    Are you absolutely sure about that? For the NA version?

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  • nratnamnratnam Member UncommonPosts: 186
    Someone can PK you when they are 45+ and you are 45+
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,410
    From the forums too I get that it is level 30. Is there a faq or some other place I can confirm this please.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,983
    cheyane said:
    From the forums too I get that it is level 30. Is there a faq or some other place I can confirm this please.
    30?  That's way off.

    My understanding is that you have to be 45. I believe in order to reach 45 you have to do some sort of black spirit quest and if you don't do it you won't reach 45 but will be safe from pvp. But I got this from a forum and it was actually in reference to the Korean game though the level for pvp is 50 there, so take that with a grain of salt.

    Once you are 45 you can be attacked. If you are on an alt but you have a level 45+ character, you can be attacked.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited March 2016
    It's 45 not 30.

    The confusion may be due to the fact that guild vs. guild works differently. If your guild is at war with another guild the members of the warring guilds can fight each other, and only each other, below level 45. Not 100% sure but I think you have to be at least level 30 for this type of PVP.
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Has the death penalty to being ganked debate been solved yet?

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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,410
    Ahh so its 30 for GvG .Okay thank you 
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,983
    Rhoklaw said:
     Also, it was believed that once one of your characters reached level 45+, that all your characters, regardless of level, could enter PvP or be killed. This is not true. 
    Well that's good to know. Kind of wish they actually had their own rules listed somewhere.
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  • CouganCougan Member UncommonPosts: 422
    Actually guild vs guild is 45+ too I've tried it
  • TheOctagonTheOctagon Member UncommonPosts: 411
    Level 45 then your forced/pigeon holed to PvP. PvE go bye bye for-eh-vor! Like most of the players will, who didn't know about it.

    BDO will be (back to) FTP by Christmas 2016..;)
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    I wish the PVP started at level 1.
  • YinchieYinchie Member UncommonPosts: 9
    Have to remind ppl that BDO is a PVP game.

  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340
    BDO has PvP enabled at 45 however the actual flagging is not enabled so you have to toggle the flag on and off. The problem is understanding the flow chart since the version floating around is NOT actually in game yet. Karma v2.0 is still in the development stages.

    How it suppose to work.

    If you have toggled the PvP on and are attacked then you will not lose experience if you die. If you attack someone who is not flagged you take a karma hit for the attack (current -3000). If you kill the player then you take a high karma penalty (current is -60000). If you die you will lose 1% experience and other things happen depending on where the karma is above or below zero. Below zero karma lose is 2% experience and increased durability loss and enchantment loss.

    If you are attacked with the flag off and killed you will lose 1% experience, if you are above zero and below zero it is 2% Also, If you are below zero karma there is no penalty for the attacker even if you have the flag off.

    I'm sure I probably missed something.
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  • marcustmarcust Member UncommonPosts: 495
    Bring it on !

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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    TheOctagon said:
    Level 45 then your forced/pigeon holed to PvP. PvE go bye bye for-eh-vor! Like most of the players will, who didn't know about it.

    BDO will be (back to) FTP by Christmas 2016..;)

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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Not really surprising that the rules are unclear.

    There are several different regions running versions of the game, and not all regions are on the same patch level as the "master version" running in Korea. Seems not all regions have the exact same rule set either.

    Wouldn't surprise me at all if this leads to some huge screw-up in future with the wrong version's patch being applied to some region, lol
  • DraemosDraemos Member UncommonPosts: 1,521
    cheyane said:
    Level 30 oh god good thing I found out before I bought it. Wait 45 or 30 ?
    45
  • MikeJezZMikeJezZ Member UncommonPosts: 1,268
    ArChWind said:
    BDO has PvP enabled at 45 however the actual flagging is not enabled so you have to toggle the flag on and off. The problem is understanding the flow chart since the version floating around is NOT actually in game yet. Karma v2.0 is still in the development stages.

    How it suppose to work.

    If you have toggled the PvP on and are attacked then you will not lose experience if you die. If you attack someone who is not flagged you take a karma hit for the attack (current -3000). If you kill the player then you take a high karma penalty (current is -60000). If you die you will lose 1% experience and other things happen depending on where the karma is above or below zero. Below zero karma lose is 2% experience and increased durability loss and enchantment loss.

    If you are attacked with the flag off and killed you will lose 1% experience, if you are above zero and below zero it is 2% Also, If you are below zero karma there is no penalty for the attacker even if you have the flag off.

    I'm sure I probably missed something.
    I've heard that xp penalty has been removed on the official forums.
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,410
    Thank you for all the replies but after looking at some of the combat videos I think I will have to pass on the game. It looks a bit too difficult for me. Thanks anyway for the replies.
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  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340
    MikeJezZ said:
    ArChWind said:
    BDO has PvP enabled at 45 however the actual flagging is not enabled so you have to toggle the flag on and off. The problem is understanding the flow chart since the version floating around is NOT actually in game yet. Karma v2.0 is still in the development stages.

    How it suppose to work.

    If you have toggled the PvP on and are attacked then you will not lose experience if you die. If you attack someone who is not flagged you take a karma hit for the attack (current -3000). If you kill the player then you take a high karma penalty (current is -60000). If you die you will lose 1% experience and other things happen depending on where the karma is above or below zero. Below zero karma lose is 2% experience and increased durability loss and enchantment loss.

    If you are attacked with the flag off and killed you will lose 1% experience, if you are above zero and below zero it is 2% Also, If you are below zero karma there is no penalty for the attacker even if you have the flag off.

    I'm sure I probably missed something.
    I've heard that xp penalty has been removed on the official forums.
    Not sure if that is true a number have said that they are losing exp
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  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340
    DMKano said:
    ArChWind said:
    MikeJezZ said:
    ArChWind said:
    BDO has PvP enabled at 45 however the actual flagging is not enabled so you have to toggle the flag on and off. The problem is understanding the flow chart since the version floating around is NOT actually in game yet. Karma v2.0 is still in the development stages.

    How it suppose to work.

    If you have toggled the PvP on and are attacked then you will not lose experience if you die. If you attack someone who is not flagged you take a karma hit for the attack (current -3000). If you kill the player then you take a high karma penalty (current is -60000). If you die you will lose 1% experience and other things happen depending on where the karma is above or below zero. Below zero karma lose is 2% experience and increased durability loss and enchantment loss.

    If you are attacked with the flag off and killed you will lose 1% experience, if you are above zero and below zero it is 2% Also, If you are below zero karma there is no penalty for the attacker even if you have the flag off.

    I'm sure I probably missed something.
    I've heard that xp penalty has been removed on the official forums.
    Not sure if that is true a number have said that they are losing exp

    Completely false if you are NOT flagged and get ganked  you lose 1% XP.

    If you are flagged for PvP and get killed by another player - no xp loss.

    Man the amount of wrong info is crazy. 
    Yep the info seems to be wrong no doubt. I still have no concrete answer and not high enough to test it myself but according to the charts flagged to flagged should not lose anything. Only when hiding behind that flag will cause Karma system to say loser dies will take experience loss.
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