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Know Your Lore - Chronicle Volume 1 Goes On Sale

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited March 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageKnow Your Lore - Chronicle Volume 1 Goes On Sale

World of Warcraft players, both past and present, who love a good story and to know more about the history and lore behind the game will want to take note of today's release of World of Warcraft Chronicle Volume 1.

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  • NeverForgetLoveNeverForgetLove Member UncommonPosts: 40
    Latest news about books. Exactly what I was looking for on a gaming website!
  • Scott_JeslisScott_Jeslis Member RarePosts: 637


    Latest news about books. Exactly what I was looking for on a gaming website!



    I appreciate the info otherwise I probably wouldn't have known. Looks like a cool book on Warcraft but I'm more of a comic book reader :-)
  • SlorgSlorg Member UncommonPosts: 37


    Latest news about books. Exactly what I was looking for on a gaming website!



    It's a book based on the lore of the most popular mmo in the history of mmos. I'm pretty sure it's newsworthy.
  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Member EpicPosts: 1,960
    It'll only be valid until they retcon it. So perhaps a year, if we're lucky? Depends how quickly their crap writing staff writes themselves into  a corner again. 

    Much like Star Wars, the best of Warcraft's lore has come from sources other than the creator. Meanwhile, most from the creator has been a steady stream of bullshit. 

    AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!

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  • exile01exile01 Member RarePosts: 1,089
    WoW is on a big sellout. They ecatly know WoWs lifespann is coming to a end, hence why Movie , books and other bogus is coming.
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited March 2016

    exile01 said:

    WoW is on a big sellout. They ecatly know WoWs lifespann is coming to a end, hence why Movie , books and other bogus is coming.



    They've always done books.. there's about 40 of them from graphic novels to novels to compendiums. I don't mind a hating troll, you guys crack me up.. but you need to know what you're talking about if you want to ruffle some feathers.

    I'm willing to bet the movie is going to make the subscriber numbers rocket again. That'll expand the lifespan even more... and if they ever go FTP.. or BTP.. they'll get bombarded with players. Possibly more than it's highest numbers. WoW is no where near the end of it's lifespan.

    When a game is pulling in a very rough $75 million A MONTH at it's lowest ever subscriber numbers.. haters ain't got a chance.

    Man, I could use that kind of money...
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  • NeverForgetLoveNeverForgetLove Member UncommonPosts: 40

    Vannor said:



    exile01 said:


    WoW is on a big sellout. They ecatly know WoWs lifespann is coming to a end, hence why Movie , books and other bogus is coming.






    They've always done books.. there's about 40 of them from graphic novels to novels to compendiums. I don't mind a hating troll, you guys crack me up.. but you need to know what you're talking about if you want to ruffle some feathers.



    I'm willing to bet the movie is going to make the subscriber numbers rocket again. That'll expand the lifespan even more... and if they ever go FTP.. or BTP.. they'll get bombarded with players. Possibly more than it's highest numbers. WoW is no where near the end of it's lifespan.



    When a game is pulling in a very rough $75 million A MONTH at it's lowest ever subscriber numbers.. haters ain't got a chance.



    Man, I could use that kind of money...



    75 million by subscribers only. Yea... Never. Ever.

    You must be one of those people believing in this "lets do some marketing for our game and throw out ridiculously high numbers" method of game companies. Facebook has so many unknown low population wannabe high quality MMORPG's doing just that for years "we have 100 million players online right now, come play too!" and this is not limited to facebook games only. Blizzard is doing the same for years now. I always wondered how naive people can be to believe that crap. WoW still has high numbers of players, but not the offcial WoW, its the top free servers that currently have a crazy high amount of players the paid one once had many years ago.
  • z3ro111z3ro111 Member UncommonPosts: 5
    Great, more lore/characters they'll reference in the game without a backstory because they assume people have all just read the books. I love playing a game, having no idea what is going on in the story because suddenly a bunch of random characters they never mentioned before in-game show up. Anveena anyone?
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited March 2016




    Vannor said:




    exile01 said:


    WoW is on a big sellout. They ecatly know WoWs lifespann is coming to a end, hence why Movie , books and other bogus is coming.


    They've always done books.. there's about 40 of them from graphic novels to novels to compendiums. I don't mind a hating troll, you guys crack me up.. but you need to know what you're talking about if you want to ruffle some feathers.

    I'm willing to bet the movie is going to make the subscriber numbers rocket again. That'll expand the lifespan even more... and if they ever go FTP.. or BTP.. they'll get bombarded with players. Possibly more than it's highest numbers. WoW is no where near the end of it's lifespan.

    When a game is pulling in a very rough $75 million A MONTH at it's lowest ever subscriber numbers.. haters ain't got a chance.

    Man, I could use that kind of money...




    75 million by subscribers only. Yea... Never. Ever.

    You must be one of those people believing in this "lets do some marketing for our game and throw out ridiculously high numbers" method of game companies. Facebook has so many unknown low population wannabe high quality MMORPG's doing just that for years "we have 100 million players online right now, come play too!" and this is not limited to facebook games only. Blizzard is doing the same for years now. I always wondered how naive people can be to believe that crap. WoW still has high numbers of players, but not the offcial WoW, its the top free servers that currently have a crazy high amount of players the paid one once had many years ago.


    Last official numbers we got were about 5 months ago. They reported 5.5 million subscribers. Subscribers, not players.

    So, 5 months ago they were getting $82.5 million a month in revenue from subscribers alone.

    That's a fact. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. I suggest you have a look at some of Blizzards quarterly revenue reports.. you'll be embarrassed to learn that they pull in around $1 Billion every three months. Around 20% of that is pure profit, which is about $66.6 Million profit a month. PURE profit. Money.. in.. the.. bank. That's across all their games though, not just WoW.
    Post edited by TheDarkrayne on
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  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    exile01 said:
    WoW is on a big sellout. They ecatly know WoWs lifespann is coming to a end, hence why Movie , books and other bogus is coming.
    Yeah. Making a feature length motion picture, more expansions, and a lore book is a sure sign of a dying MMORPG. This website is a cesspit of negativity. 
  • NeverForgetLoveNeverForgetLove Member UncommonPosts: 40
    edited March 2016
    Vannor said:




    Vannor said:




    exile01 said:


    WoW is on a big sellout. They ecatly know WoWs lifespann is coming to a end, hence why Movie , books and other bogus is coming.


    They've always done books.. there's about 40 of them from graphic novels to novels to compendiums. I don't mind a hating troll, you guys crack me up.. but you need to know what you're talking about if you want to ruffle some feathers.

    I'm willing to bet the movie is going to make the subscriber numbers rocket again. That'll expand the lifespan even more... and if they ever go FTP.. or BTP.. they'll get bombarded with players. Possibly more than it's highest numbers. WoW is no where near the end of it's lifespan.

    When a game is pulling in a very rough $75 million A MONTH at it's lowest ever subscriber numbers.. haters ain't got a chance.

    Man, I could use that kind of money...




    75 million by subscribers only. Yea... Never. Ever.

    You must be one of those people believing in this "lets do some marketing for our game and throw out ridiculously high numbers" method of game companies. Facebook has so many unknown low population wannabe high quality MMORPG's doing just that for years "we have 100 million players online right now, come play too!" and this is not limited to facebook games only. Blizzard is doing the same for years now. I always wondered how naive people can be to believe that crap. WoW still has high numbers of players, but not the offcial WoW, its the top free servers that currently have a crazy high amount of players the paid one once had many years ago.


    Last official numbers we got were about 5 months ago. They reported 5.5 million subscribers. Subscribers, not players.

    So, 5 months ago they were getting $82.5 million a month in revenue from subscribers alone.

    That's a fact. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
    The true internal numbers of the accounting never make it to the public. So just because its official doesn't mean its not a marketing lie.

    You accuse me of having no idea even though you can only repeat what has been announced to feed the masses. Indeed, very credible.

  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    Vannor said:




    Vannor said:




    exile01 said:


    WoW is on a big sellout. They ecatly know WoWs lifespann is coming to a end, hence why Movie , books and other bogus is coming.


    They've always done books.. there's about 40 of them from graphic novels to novels to compendiums. I don't mind a hating troll, you guys crack me up.. but you need to know what you're talking about if you want to ruffle some feathers.

    I'm willing to bet the movie is going to make the subscriber numbers rocket again. That'll expand the lifespan even more... and if they ever go FTP.. or BTP.. they'll get bombarded with players. Possibly more than it's highest numbers. WoW is no where near the end of it's lifespan.

    When a game is pulling in a very rough $75 million A MONTH at it's lowest ever subscriber numbers.. haters ain't got a chance.

    Man, I could use that kind of money...




    75 million by subscribers only. Yea... Never. Ever.

    You must be one of those people believing in this "lets do some marketing for our game and throw out ridiculously high numbers" method of game companies. Facebook has so many unknown low population wannabe high quality MMORPG's doing just that for years "we have 100 million players online right now, come play too!" and this is not limited to facebook games only. Blizzard is doing the same for years now. I always wondered how naive people can be to believe that crap. WoW still has high numbers of players, but not the offcial WoW, its the top free servers that currently have a crazy high amount of players the paid one once had many years ago.


    Last official numbers we got were about 5 months ago. They reported 5.5 million subscribers. Subscribers, not players.

    So, 5 months ago they were getting $82.5 million a month in revenue from subscribers alone.

    That's a fact. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
    The true internal numbers of the accounting never make it to the public. So just because its official doesn't mean its not a marketing lie.

    You accuse me of having no idea even though you can only repeat what has been announced to feed the masses. Indeed, very credible.

    That number was initially released in an earning report where lying causes lawsuits. I think I'll believe that number instead of believing random internet guy doubting that number. 
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297



    Vannor said:








    Vannor said:






    exile01 said:



    WoW is on a big sellout. They ecatly know WoWs lifespann is coming to a end, hence why Movie , books and other bogus is coming.



    They've always done books.. there's about 40 of them from graphic novels to novels to compendiums. I don't mind a hating troll, you guys crack me up.. but you need to know what you're talking about if you want to ruffle some feathers.


    I'm willing to bet the movie is going to make the subscriber numbers rocket again. That'll expand the lifespan even more... and if they ever go FTP.. or BTP.. they'll get bombarded with players. Possibly more than it's highest numbers. WoW is no where near the end of it's lifespan.


    When a game is pulling in a very rough $75 million A MONTH at it's lowest ever subscriber numbers.. haters ain't got a chance.


    Man, I could use that kind of money...






    75 million by subscribers only. Yea... Never. Ever.


    You must be one of those people believing in this "lets do some marketing for our game and throw out ridiculously high numbers" method of game companies. Facebook has so many unknown low population wannabe high quality MMORPG's doing just that for years "we have 100 million players online right now, come play too!" and this is not limited to facebook games only. Blizzard is doing the same for years now. I always wondered how naive people can be to believe that crap. WoW still has high numbers of players, but not the offcial WoW, its the top free servers that currently have a crazy high amount of players the paid one once had many years ago.





    Last official numbers we got were about 5 months ago. They reported 5.5 million subscribers. Subscribers, not players.



    So, 5 months ago they were getting $82.5 million a month in revenue from subscribers alone.



    That's a fact. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.


    The true internal numbers of the accounting never make it to the public. So just because its official doesn't mean its not a marketing lie.

    You accuse me of having no idea even though you can only repeat what has been announced to feed the masses. Indeed, very credible.




    Actually, I added more to my post.

    You are hilarious, by the way. You doubt the reported numbers because.. what? You just feel like it? Even when they always reported the losses? HILARIOUS!
    I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
  • NeverForgetLoveNeverForgetLove Member UncommonPosts: 40
    Vannor said:

    Actually, I added more to my post.

    You are hilarious, by the way. You doubt the reported numbers because.. what? You just feel like it? Even when they always reported the losses? HILARIOUS!

    I have the same reasons to doubt the numbers as you have to believe in them. The difference is, I take a few more things into account.

    Its a company that sells a product with a popular name, therefor it needs very good marketing. Good marketing contains marketing strategics. A part of marketing strategics are marketing lies. In this case releasing high numbers (no matter if its profit, loss, or subscriptions) is an obvious one. Why? Because its not possible for an outsider to proof any of these numbers. The result of releasing such disinformation goes far beyond (re)attracting the actual target group.

    And by the way, I would really appreciate if you brought up some decent arguments with a stable base, instead of leading the discussion into the absurd with small-minded comments. Thanks in advance.
  • NeverForgetLoveNeverForgetLove Member UncommonPosts: 40
    edited March 2016
    That number was initially released in an earning report where lying causes lawsuits. I think I'll believe that number instead of believing random internet guy doubting that number. 

    All I read in this discussion are allegations, assumptions and accusations. Nothing with enough weight to proof me wrong.
  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    That number was initially released in an earning report where lying causes lawsuits. I think I'll believe that number instead of believing random internet guy doubting that number. 

    All I read in this discussion are allegations, assumptions and accusations. Nothing with enough weight to proof me wrong.
    It was said in an investor meeting. They are legally obligated to tell the truth. How much more "proof" do you need? Seems like the only proof you will accept is looking at the server database. 
  • NeverForgetLoveNeverForgetLove Member UncommonPosts: 40
    It was said in an investor meeting. They are legally obligated to tell the truth. How much more "proof" do you need? Seems like the only proof you will accept is looking at the server database. 
    As I said, true internal numbers never make it to the public. I think I'll stick to my view instead of believing random internet guy repeating what he heard in some meeting. :pleased: 
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297



    Vannor said:



    Actually, I added more to my post.



    You are hilarious, by the way. You doubt the reported numbers because.. what? You just feel like it? Even when they always reported the losses? HILARIOUS!


    I have the same reasons to doubt the numbers as you have to believe in them. The difference is, I take a few more things into account.

    Its a company that sells a product with a popular name, therefor it needs very good marketing. Good marketing contains marketing strategics. A part of marketing strategics are marketing lies. In this case releasing high numbers (no matter if its profit, loss, or subscriptions) is an obvious one. Why? Because its not possible for an outsider to proof any of these numbers. The result of releasing such disinformation goes far beyond (re)attracting the actual target group.

    And by the way, I would really appreciate if you brought up some decent arguments with a stable base, instead of leading the discussion into the absurd with small-minded comments. Thanks in advance.



    There isn't much else to say other than small minded comments. You're choosing to ignore facts and are therefore a lost cause. I'm sorry that you didn't know how much money WoW actually makes but continuing to deny it once you've been told is childish and ignorant. I understand that you're talking about things like when RuneScape gave a massively high registered accounts number for marketing purposes; registered doesn't mean active, but that's not what Blizzard has done here. The thing is, Blizzard didn't release those numbers for marketing, they were exposed from legal documents. Right, you've been told the situation.. you're not some ultra intelligent person who knows something everybody else doesn't. Quite the opposite.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited March 2016

    Torval said:


    Vannor said:
    Vannor said:

    They've always done books.. there's about 40 of them from graphic novels to novels to compendiums. I don't mind a hating troll, you guys crack me up.. but you need to know what you're talking about if you want to ruffle some feathers.

    I'm willing to bet the movie is going to make the subscriber numbers rocket again. That'll expand the lifespan even more... and if they ever go FTP.. or BTP.. they'll get bombarded with players. Possibly more than it's highest numbers. WoW is no where near the end of it's lifespan.

    When a game is pulling in a very rough $75 million A MONTH at it's lowest ever subscriber numbers.. haters ain't got a chance.

    Man, I could use that kind of money...


    75 million by subscribers only. Yea... Never. Ever.

    You must be one of those people believing in this "lets do some marketing for our game and throw out ridiculously high numbers" method of game companies. Facebook has so many unknown low population wannabe high quality MMORPG's doing just that for years "we have 100 million players online right now, come play too!" and this is not limited to facebook games only. Blizzard is doing the same for years now. I always wondered how naive people can be to believe that crap. WoW still has high numbers of players, but not the offcial WoW, its the top free servers that currently have a crazy high amount of players the paid one once had many years ago.


    Last official numbers we got were about 5 months ago. They reported 5.5 million subscribers. Subscribers, not players.



    So, 5 months ago they were getting $82.5 million a month in revenue from subscribers alone.



    That's a fact. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

    I suggest you have a look at some of Blizzards quarterly revenue reports.. you'll be embarrassed to learn that they pull in around $1 Billion every three months. Around 20% of that is pure profit, which is about $66.6 Million profit a month. PURE profit. Money.. in.. the.. bank. That's across all their games though, not just WoW.


    Not all WoW "subscribers" are equal. Not all of them pay $10 - $15 a month in recurring fees. The Asian players pay differently yet are still counted as "subscribers". So while we can't deny they have 5.5M "subscribers" because they have a custom definition of subscriber, your $82.5M a month of subscriber math is not accurate.

    Not only that but they've stopped reporting on WoW individually. That means nothing more than it doesn't stand out above its in house peers to be noteworthy of reporting. All we know is that they have approximately $1Bn in quarterly revenue of which we don't know how much is from WoW anymore. It's much more likely their newer titles bring in more.

    I'm not saying WoW is not a success or anything about extras or marketing, just clarifying how we look at subscribers and how they present that.



    I'd imagine they stopped reporting the numbers because they had to report the losses. Even though the subscriber numbers were still massive compared to other games, the losses were what everyone was paying attention to. Asian players generally pay more to play WoW btw.
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