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Question from someone coming from SWG

kanezfankanezfan Member UncommonPosts: 482

I like playing melee toons, never was into being a magician or whatever. In SWG I'm a Jedi. This game is rated second best on mmorpg.com so I want to try it out. What should I make my character so that he would be as close to a Jedi from SWG. I realize that there are no lightsabers in DAOC lol. I'm not that into PVP either, although it is a lot of fun when I do do it. Also I'm confused about the servers, I'd do some PvP but I like to solo a lot, where should I go?

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  • EvelknievelEvelknievel Member UncommonPosts: 2,964

    Albion Friar is a great profession from DAoC. You can use a 2handed staff and

    whip some serious tail in RvR if you got the right template.

    Insta Heals, 2hand attacks + Friar buffs.

    Excellent Class and one of the Flavors of the month.

  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528

    I would say playing a Vampiir would be the closest to a Jedi you will find.

    There are primary a tank. You get can cast during combat. You have a claw for damage. You can evade, you can parry, a heal over time, you have a mana tap (used outside of combat), a distance DD (cast out of combat), and an End tap you can use in combat. You get automatic "buffs" for your stats so you do not (and cannot) get buffed by other classes.

    As a vamp you can kill all day long without every having to take a break.

  • LasastardLasastard Member Posts: 604

    Yeah well, I dont know what to say...you want to to try DAoC but you are not particulary interested in PvP. The reason why this game is rated so high is because of the PvP. It is nothing like the PvP in SWG, for example.
    So of course, as a newbie to DAoC a Vamp is probably a good choice, because youn can level and pve solo very well (actaully tha also applies to PvP). But you should be aware, that you will find yourself very lonely in the game if all you do is solo your toon...and you wont be able to enjoy the *real* large scale PvP, because Vamps are not really group-chars...^^
    As for servers I would advice you to play on one of the classic servers - highest population, better chances to get a group on lower levels ...

  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528

    Unless you are just very casual or want the easiest time grouping, there is no reason to play on the Classic servers anymore. ToA, while not fixed, is much better than it used to be. Most of the people who left the regular servers have come back.

    As for Vamps not getting groups, that is more because some people do not want to group with them and less about Vamps not wanting to group. But I do find vamps are common in many groups, espically for PvE.

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    Personally I just prefer the classic servers to TOA servers. I like the fact that there are no bots. I like the fact that the vets have to level up just like new players (and I'm a vet so hush).

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  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528


    Originally posted by Elnator
    Personally I just prefer the classic servers to TOA servers. I like the fact that there are no bots. I like the fact that the vets have to level up just like new players (and I'm a vet so hush).

    Yes, but you are in a tiny minority. Maybe more new players will feel like you do, compared to the wider DAOC audience. only 3% of the player base cared about a no-buffbot server. Almost do one wanted to get rid of /level. I will say that forwhatever reason, there is a larger percentage that still plays on the Classic servers. In fact there are some new players on my server who said that was a selling point for the regular servers. They could just /level and be in good BG action and try out characters at a level where there are abilities to experiment with.

    I do not mind leveling up anymore, but the fact is I have two different types of level options. The older material which I might not remember that takes a long time and is some sucky content. Do the newer content by better designers and writers with great XP, but doing it again after I have already done it so many times.

    I think the level 1-20 content is some of the best in the game, but there is only so long I can stand repeating content. If I can skip 20 levels of it, then I am going to do it :) I think of the the reasons many people came back from classic besides the ToA fixes.

  • PantasticPantastic Member Posts: 1,204

    Personally I hate raiding and everything associated with it (raid guilds, schedules, DKP, etc.), which is why the only servers I'd even consider are classic servers. It's not a matter of being "casual", since I play for quite a bit of time in single blocks, it's a matter of not wanting to play in an environment where I have to either raid or stand no chance in PVP.

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by JulianDracos
    Originally posted by Elnator
    Personally I just prefer the classic servers to TOA servers. I like the fact that there are no bots. I like the fact that the vets have to level up just like new players (and I'm a vet so hush).

    Yes, but you are in a tiny minority. Maybe more new players will feel like you do, compared to the wider DAOC audience. only 3% of the player base cared about a no-buffbot server. Almost do one wanted to get rid of /level. I will say that forwhatever reason, there is a larger percentage that still plays on the Classic servers. In fact there are some new players on my server who said that was a selling point for the regular servers. They could just /level and be in good BG action and try out characters at a level where there are abilities to experiment with.

    I do not mind leveling up anymore, but the fact is I have two different types of level options. The older material which I might not remember that takes a long time and is some sucky content. Do the newer content by better designers and writers with great XP, but doing it again after I have already done it so many times.

    I think the level 1-20 content is some of the best in the game, but there is only so long I can stand repeating content. If I can skip 20 levels of it, then I am going to do it :) I think of the the reasons many people came back from classic besides the ToA fixes.



    Julian, I respect your preferences, really I do. But lets be realistic here:
    1) There *are* more new players on the Classic servers than on the regular (on a per-server basis, not total).
    2) The classic servers make up approximately 25% of the population of the game, not 3%

    I didn't say /level was the only reason. I said I don't like TOA. EVERYONE I know on the classic servers says the same thing I do: TOA is a lot better now than it was at release, but it still sucks and is a pain if all you want to do is RVR once you hit 50. I also REALLY like the anti-buff-bot ruleset (as does EVERYONE I know) on the Classic Servers.

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  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528

    El, we are saying about the same thing but looking at it from a different perspective.

    Only 3% wanted no buffbot. So why are there people playing the Classic servers? A few reasons, but mostly because of no ToA. Classic servers went from having 8000+ on them total nearly 24/7, to just peak hours, to now having about 4000 only at peak hours. Yes, there is one Classic server that is the largest of all of the servers, but that doesn't show the Classic is the most popular nor does it suggest in any way that it is because of the no-buffbot rule. It might be that even though Mythic did a poll and released there results that it had a magin of error of + or - 72%, but I doubt it. Once people are playing on the Classic server many people there might enjoy the fact there is no buffbots. Many might have come to think of buffbots as "bad," and that might be the reason people are staying there. That is all conjecture. The fact that everyone you know likes X does not translate into everyone likes X. It is a hasty generalization there. But I do know that 75% of the player base plays on another server type. Many people have left the classic servers with the changes that went in to ToA recently.

    I do not recomend the Classic servers to anyone any longer unless they never want to raid, can play for 10 hours a week or less, want to be a crafter, or have constant interuptions to them playing. Yes ToA could be said to get in the way of RvR, but for that fact leveling from 1-50 gets in the way of RvR.

    If the majority of complaints have been addressed with ToA, then there is little reason to recomend playing on the classic servers. Outside of a few complaints people still have left about it (including that it is still there) then that only leaves the no-buffbot rule. That is what I was addressing and what I am saying is simply what Mythic published themselves. If no-buffbots was what people wanted, then they would have put out no buffbot ToA servers. The reason 1 classic server still has a decent population is because it is new, no-ToA, people have made new connections there, there are new players there going there because it is the highest populated, and last and least is the no buff-bot.

  • MaxziusMaxzius Member UncommonPosts: 248


    Originally posted by Elnator
    Personally I just prefer the classic servers to TOA servers. I like the fact that there are no bots. I like the fact that the vets have to level up just like new players (and I'm a vet so hush).

    The exact same reasons why I went Classic. I ended up going back to Normal servers b/c I missed the ToA content.

    Where is my ToA enabled Classic ruleset server???

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  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by Maxzius
    Originally posted by Elnator
    Personally I just prefer the classic servers to TOA servers. I like the fact that there are no bots. I like the fact that the vets have to level up just like new players (and I'm a vet so hush).

    The exact same reasons why I went Classic. I ended up going back to Normal servers b/c I missed the ToA content.

    Where is my ToA enabled Classic ruleset server???

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    I went classic, thought I was missing the TOA content so went back to Normal, found I STILL hated TOA so went back to Classic.

    It's not that I didn't try the new TOA changes, I did. I still don't like it. A vast chunk of it still *requires* a raid to accomplish and I loathe raids. They take forever to set up and get everyone in place then you get the typical bickering over who gets what ad nausium. You absolutely HAVE to do the raids too if you want to get the ML's. And if you don't have the ML's you're at a distinct dissadvantage in RVR (and anyone who denies this is smoking some wacky stuff again). Yes, the time required to do it is much less (it's not 16 hours anymore) and it only takes about 2hours to do the raids (once you have everyone together) but the innate time required to do a raid is still long (about 4 hours) because you have to wait for everyone to get together. This is one of the things I hate about raids, by their very nature, even if the raid itself only takes like 5 minutes it STILL takes people forever to get to the gathering point, get organized, and get moving.

    I respect that many like the raids. I used to when I was younger and had tons of free time on my hands. But typically I hve 2hrs or less to play a night so raids are completely beyond my ability to get in on. Especially when most raids occur on weekends, when I typically can't play at all :)

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  • MaxziusMaxzius Member UncommonPosts: 248

    Yeah, I never minded ToA. It's just a little easier now.

    What I do mind is buffbots, the /level command and to a lesser degree: clusters.


    It's impossible to put into words how much I dislike buffbots...

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  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528

    I hate raids.  In fact, I have never gotten a ML10 toon because I cannot stand raids.  In a sense, the Classic servers serve my playstyle so much better.  But there are a few things that keep me going.  While I find that many items added in ToA were way overpowering, I like the abilities and the look of the items.  I also like many things (I am not sure I can function without powerfont anymore.  I am so addicted to that thing). 

    I might be able to get over loosing those, but I am not going to level up 4+ crafters to LGM again.

    I am hoping that if crafting is fixed then that will take away most incentives I have for going to ToA at all. 

    Buffbots never bothered me.  My NS can take out an Inf that is high RR, ML, ToA gear, or buffboted.  I cannot take out an Inf that starts having those together.  I think one issue with DAOC is not that 1 thing is overpowered, it is usually a combination of things together that make the odds so insurmountable. 

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