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Is a second video card in Crossfire worth it for this mobo?

DeathengerDeathenger Member UncommonPosts: 880
edited April 2016 in Hardware
I have a little bit older system but it does just fine. I have a few bucks to spend to do some upgrades. Going from an i5-750S to a i7-880 (80$!), upgrading the memory and getting a SSD cause I currently have a crappy 1TB normal hard drive.

 My motherboard is a GA-P55-USB3 rev.1. It says that Crossfire is supported, but there is a note that says The PCIEX16 slot operates at up to x4 mode when ATI CrossFireX is enabled. Does this mean that if I get another video card and run it crossfire that I will actually have reduced performance for gaming? I'm not sure how to take that. I mean, why support Crossfire, but reduce the bus speed?
 

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  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias Member UncommonPosts: 562

    I Bought this in 2011 and I was curious if I needed to upgrade??




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  • EpicJohnsonEpicJohnson Member UncommonPosts: 83
    There are many games that do not play well with SLI/Crossfire (I have machines with both)
    You would do better getting a new more powerful card.
  • DeathengerDeathenger Member UncommonPosts: 880
    My card is pretty good. It's a Radeon R9 270x I think. I went from a 5770 so it was a pretty good upgrade at the time.
     
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,999
    @Sirmatthias ;

    It's up to you to decide if you need an update or not. That system is still good enough to run games, but on the other hand if you updated it it would run those games a bit better. It's up to you to decide.

    If you decide to update, I'd recommend new GPU + SSD hard disk. New GPU would increase FPS in graphically demanding games, and SSD hard disk would dramatically decrease all loading times and make the computer feel more responsive. Your CPU + mobo + RAM are still good and they shouldn't need any updates.

    @Deathenger

    According to Gigabyte's spec webpage your second PCIe slot is only capable of PCIe 2.0 running at 4 lanes
    http://www.gigabyte.fi/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3440#sp

    That's about 2 GB/s of bandwidth to the graphic card if you go crossfire. Radeon 270 would be capable of PCIe interface 3.0 running at 16 lanes, or about 16 GB/s bandwidth. While it shouldn't ever need anything close to that 16 GB/s bandwidth, I would not attach a second Radeon 270 to your motherboard.
     
  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,527
    There are many games that do not play well with SLI/Crossfire (I have machines with both)
    You would do better getting a new more powerful card.
    I would do exactly what he said.  I had 2 Nvidia GTX 760's in SLI for a long time and it wasn't worth it.  Nothing hardly supported it at all.  I would suggest just getting one of the newer cards.
  • DeathengerDeathenger Member UncommonPosts: 880
    Thanks for the reply's guys. I think I'll just stay away from the crossfire.
     
  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279
    edited April 2016
    Looking it over. your running a R9 so your pretty much good to go. When you start looking at a upgrade don't forget that AMD has the technology to tie your processor to your video card giving it a serious kick in the ass. Just make sure you do your research to verify they tie. Currently i am running 2 R7's with a processor that ties pushing my 4 gig combined Video to a 8 gig video.

    OH and while i remember. When running a AMD system (Which doing this would turn your computer into) You can start looking at games that run Mantle instead of DX. Now realistically speaking Both have their ups and downs, not to mention Mantle is only really available on games made for AMD, But DX still works fine on the others.

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2109596/directx-12-vs-mantle-comparing-pc-gamings-software-supercharged-future.html

    For a idea

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  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    CF/SLI generally aint worth it. Just when youre ready buy new single card in 200-300$. I suggest waiting for new gen Polaris chip. 270x is still decent card.
  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279
    Malabooga said:
    CF/SLI generally aint worth it. Just when youre ready buy new single card in 200-300$. I suggest waiting for new gen Polaris chip. 270x is still decent card.
    This is true, the new chips that are set to be releases soon are BAD ASS. and when i read about them, i cried tears of joy.

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  • GladDogGladDog Member RarePosts: 1,097
    I excitedly set up an SLI rig about 6 years ago, and guess what I found out...

    Of the three games I was playing, only one had SLI support.  That means the 2nd only was adding about 5-10% performance over a single card.  I got a great deal on those two cards, getting them for a total of $360.

    But, the single card I could have gotten for $360... was far faster in the two non-SLI games.  And it was even a little faster with the one game that was SLI supported.  So, I could have gotten a really good card instead of the two that went obsolescent for gaming about three years later.  The card I could have gotten would still be a capable card for gaming now.  The two I got would have been door stops now individually; a lot of modern games minimum requirements would have excluded them.

    What I am saying is that SLI and Crossfire are not worth it.  Investing in an AMD R9-380X would be a lot more profitable than getting a 2nd R9-270, and the 380X is not that much more money.

    That said, when games start releasing that support DX12, every video sub-system will be used, so having a pair of cards, even mismatched, will help your system performance.  Even the lamo onboard video helps with DX-12!


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  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279
    GladDog said:
    I excitedly set up an SLI rig about 6 years ago, and guess what I found out...

    Of the three games I was playing, only one had SLI support.  That means the 2nd only was adding about 5-10% performance over a single card.  I got a great deal on those two cards, getting them for a total of $360.

    But, the single card I could have gotten for $360... was far faster in the two non-SLI games.  And it was even a little faster with the one game that was SLI supported.  So, I could have gotten a really good card instead of the two that went obsolescent for gaming about three years later.  The card I could have gotten would still be a capable card for gaming now.  The two I got would have been door stops now individually; a lot of modern games minimum requirements would have excluded them.

    What I am saying is that SLI and Crossfire are not worth it.  Investing in an AMD R9-380X would be a lot more profitable than getting a 2nd R9-270, and the 380X is not that much more money.

    That said, when games start releasing that support DX12, every video sub-system will be used, so having a pair of cards, even mismatched, will help your system performance.  Even the lamo onboard video helps with DX-12!
    Honestly i feel i got lucky since most the games i am interested in are either Low Spec or Mantle anyways, so i didn't really feel the same problem

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    I flirted with SLI and Xfire many, many years ago and although support for them has come a long way since the early days, there are still very few games that make good use of multi-card systems and most of those still have special bugs that you only see when you use SLI or Xfire.

    A good single card toward the high end of the line - not necessarily the Cadillac - is what I've been using and I'm quite happy with that.
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