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Vanilla WoW Fight for Legacy Servers!

VIktory4Lineage2VIktory4Lineage2 Member UncommonPosts: 62
edited April 2016 in The Pub at MMORPG.COM

So I don't know if you guys follow probably not, but maybe you do. Blizzard shut down a private server of Vanilla WoW, and it's caused this movement of old-school vets and retired players that didn't get to experience Vanilla WoW to get them to change there policy on not making Legacy Servers.

Long story short all the work that has gone into this over the last few weeks is finally paying off. Nostalbegins which was the group of volunteers that hosted out of there own pocket and ran it finally got through to blizzard


and Mark Kern is also meeting with them!


Help spread the word and if would please sign the petiton remember this is was Jeff Kaplans baby as well. I'm leveling in westfall on a private server right now(a zone that he designed all the quest for), and gotta say having the time of my life with the slow pace and very rewarding aspect of vanilla WoW.

https://www.change.org/p/mike-morhaime-legacy-server-among-world-of-warcraft-community


Help spread the word and vote for legacy servers #LetsMakeWoWGreatAgain #WeCanMakeADifference #isuckatdoinghashtags


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  • ZarriyaZarriya Member UncommonPosts: 446
    This is great news!  Keep telling Blizz you want the Legacy servers Blizzlike. Pure vanilla!
  • WhySoSeriousWhySoSerious Member UncommonPosts: 156
    The tide really does seem to be turning! I mean, would anyone have thought Blizz would meet with a private server team? I'm hopeful for the future of legacy servers!
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Great News

    Nothing but respect to Blizzard, for treating the issue this way.

    I look forward to what the future may bring.

    I'm optimistic.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    Unexpected news. Of course now everybody's going to expect either official legacy servers or Blizzard allowing the private server to continue (under some licensing agreement). Anything less would be bad PR for them.

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    I have a few friends who actively subscribe to WoW. They are all telling Blizzard through ingame Support that they want to be able to play Legacy WoW.

    Every bit helps.

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    Wow, what a way to twist what happened lol
  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    laserit said:
    I have a few friends who actively subscribe to WoW. They are all telling Blizzard through ingame Support that they want to be able to play Legacy WoW.

    Every bit helps.
    I'd resub literally immediately if Blizzard announced a legacy server. Maybe they've realised there are probably a few million who'd do the same...
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Gdemami said:
    Wow, what a way to twist what happened lol
    What happened?

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • VIktory4Lineage2VIktory4Lineage2 Member UncommonPosts: 62
    Athisar said:
    laserit said:
    I have a few friends who actively subscribe to WoW. They are all telling Blizzard through ingame Support that they want to be able to play Legacy WoW.

    Every bit helps.
    I'd resub literally immediately if Blizzard announced a legacy server. Maybe they've realised there are probably a few million who'd do the same...
    I think many people would I know I there are millions of Vets that are pulling for it. I'm sure a lot of people are still not in the know of what's happening, so spread the word post on other forums get this shit out there.
  • WhySoSeriousWhySoSerious Member UncommonPosts: 156
    edited April 2016
    Athisar said:
    laserit said:
    I have a few friends who actively subscribe to WoW. They are all telling Blizzard through ingame Support that they want to be able to play Legacy WoW.

    Every bit helps.
    I'd resub literally immediately if Blizzard announced a legacy server. Maybe they've realised there are probably a few million who'd do the same...


    Same. I'm ready to resub and put down 2 years worth of sub fees if they open a Vanilla server.
  • VIktory4Lineage2VIktory4Lineage2 Member UncommonPosts: 62
    I just wanna raid 40m Naxx 
  • MaquiameMaquiame Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    edited April 2016
    I just wanna raid 40m Naxx 
    I want my world pvp again and the funneh chat in the Crossroads/Barrens

    image

    Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  • SetzerSetzer Member UncommonPosts: 261
    This is pretty awesome! I hope they can come to some resolution and make legacy servers happen. So much for all the naysayers here who said Blizzard wouldn't do anything....I knew they wouldn't just blow off their fan base like that.
  • VIktory4Lineage2VIktory4Lineage2 Member UncommonPosts: 62
    Make sure you sign the petition!!
  • sludgebeardsludgebeard Member RarePosts: 788
    If only social networking was this powerful when SWG was hit with the NGE.

    No way that would have stood today.
  • VyntVynt Member UncommonPosts: 757
    It would be funny, if they requested to meet, only to have them be greeted by Blizzard's lawyers and issued a lawsuit, lol.
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    If only social networking was this powerful when SWG was hit with the NGE.

    No way that would have stood today.
    Would not have helped... SWG was bleeding subs faster than WoW and unlike WoW they where comning up on the limit for how much they could bear financially. Remember that they had not only SONY but also LucasArts on their back to make money. NGE was a last hail Mary pass at turning the trend. Was it the right choice... Ofc not but what other option did they have? 

    So not really a comparable situation, especially as SWG was a bug and exploit ridden mess even at the best of times. 

    As for this... Guess Blizzard is scoring some quick PR points, cost them next to nothing and generats a huge pop, especially for something that is at least 4-6 years away. (post-legion expansion and then we might talk) unless the nossy guys have some really magic bullet to solve the cost issue... 

    This have been a good conversation

  • Gabriel-KnightGabriel-Knight Member UncommonPosts: 89
    Hahaha, seems like Blizzard KNOWS that Legion is going to suck major anus. I mean, WoD lasted for less than a year of terribad content, why anybody would expect anything more from the upcoming expansion?
    I would be glad if vanilla servers were launched, but i doubt they last for more than a year. They would eventually become ghost towns filled with elitist douchebags. :(
  • eldariseldaris Member UncommonPosts: 353
    You forget blizzard is a much worse company today than when they ignored for years the people asking for housing in wow only to add the facebook/garrison abomination when they started loosing subs . Even if they will have some kind of vanilla server it will be probably worse than eq2 progression server without the suburbs of Freeport, it will not be for sure Nostalrius.
  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    laserit said:
    Gdemami said:
    Wow, what a way to twist what happened lol
    What happened?
    I am guessing he means that having a meeting with them does not mean things are "turning around".  They have not changed their minds from what I have read. . discussed a "pristine server" etc.  They likely just want to know how far along they were etc.  maybe hire a few of them.  We don't really know.

    Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    edited April 2016

    tawess said:
    If only social networking was this powerful when SWG was hit with the NGE.

    No way that would have stood today.
    Would not have helped... SWG was bleeding subs faster than WoW and unlike WoW they where comning up on the limit for how much they could bear financially. Remember that they had not only SONY but also LucasArts on their back to make money. NGE was a last hail Mary pass at turning the trend. Was it the right choice... Ofc not but what other option did they have? 

    So not really a comparable situation, especially as SWG was a bug and exploit ridden mess even at the best of times. 

    As for this... Guess Blizzard is scoring some quick PR points, cost them next to nothing and generats a huge pop, especially for something that is at least 4-6 years away. (post-legion expansion and then we might talk) unless the nossy guys have some really magic bullet to solve the cost issue... 
    Oh you're on the WoW executive board?  Cool what else can you tell us about time lines?!  4 to 6 years away ... lol.  They could probably have legacy servers up within a year no problem.  But I think what may come out of this instead is working out an agreement with 3rd party providers.  Too early to tell, but it's funny how no matter what happens the detractors refuse to acknowledge which way the wind is blowing.
    They explained that it would be very difficult and something they knew people wanted but that it would take a lot of time and manpower etc.  I am guessing twess is basing his thoughts off of their response to why they asked for the server to  be closed.  

    "We explored options for developing classic servers and none could be executed without great difficulty," Brack says, in directly addressing the issue of official legacy servers. "There are tremendous operational challenges to integrating classic servers, not to mention the ongoing support of multiple live versions for every aspect of WoW." 

    They also dismissed licensing to 3rd parties I believe although I agree that that would be the most likely route if it ever does happen.

    "And while we’ve looked into the possibility -- there is not a clear legal path to protect Blizzard’s IP and grant an operating license to a pirate server."

    Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

  • eldariseldaris Member UncommonPosts: 353
    edited April 2016
    How you know a blizz employee is lying ? He opens his mouth
    Also if they granted license to a server it will not be a copyright infringing server anymore,it will be a licensed server - blizz should get a better sophist next time.
  • danwest58danwest58 Member RarePosts: 2,012
    Aethaeryn said:

    tawess said:
    If only social networking was this powerful when SWG was hit with the NGE.

    No way that would have stood today.
    Would not have helped... SWG was bleeding subs faster than WoW and unlike WoW they where comning up on the limit for how much they could bear financially. Remember that they had not only SONY but also LucasArts on their back to make money. NGE was a last hail Mary pass at turning the trend. Was it the right choice... Ofc not but what other option did they have? 

    So not really a comparable situation, especially as SWG was a bug and exploit ridden mess even at the best of times. 

    As for this... Guess Blizzard is scoring some quick PR points, cost them next to nothing and generats a huge pop, especially for something that is at least 4-6 years away. (post-legion expansion and then we might talk) unless the nossy guys have some really magic bullet to solve the cost issue... 
    Oh you're on the WoW executive board?  Cool what else can you tell us about time lines?!  4 to 6 years away ... lol.  They could probably have legacy servers up within a year no problem.  But I think what may come out of this instead is working out an agreement with 3rd party providers.  Too early to tell, but it's funny how no matter what happens the detractors refuse to acknowledge which way the wind is blowing.
    They explained that it would be very difficult and something they knew people wanted but that it would take a lot of time and manpower etc.  I am guessing twess is basing his thoughts off of their response to why they asked for the server to  be closed.  

    "We explored options for developing classic servers and none could be executed without great difficulty," Brack says, in directly addressing the issue of official legacy servers. "There are tremendous operational challenges to integrating classic servers, not to mention the ongoing support of multiple live versions for every aspect of WoW." 

    They also dismissed licensing to 3rd parties I believe although I agree that that would be the most likely route if it ever does happen.

    "And while we’ve looked into the possibility -- there is not a clear legal path to protect Blizzard’s IP and grant an operating license to a pirate server."
    I hate to say it but they are lying that it would take great difficulty.  It's only true if they have to regenerate 100% of their old code AND integrate it into battlenet.  Honestly they would be better served running the emulator if they dont have the old code to go back to, and if they do have the old code to go back to its very easy today to emulate an older OS.  Now if they did either there will be some work the TOUGH spot would be to integrate it with Battlenet.  They dont need to do that today, that can be a project for the 6 to 12 month time frame if at the 6 month mark servers are still going strong.

    Mark Kern knows what it takes and he has gone out and said that it would be a project but Blizzard is acting as if it would be like building a new MMO from the ground up when it is really not.  Like I said the ONLY way this project is hard is if they start building the entire game from scratch again.  
  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    danwest58 said:
    Aethaeryn said:

    tawess said:
    If only social networking was this powerful when SWG was hit with the NGE.

    No way that would have stood today.
    Would not have helped... SWG was bleeding subs faster than WoW and unlike WoW they where comning up on the limit for how much they could bear financially. Remember that they had not only SONY but also LucasArts on their back to make money. NGE was a last hail Mary pass at turning the trend. Was it the right choice... Ofc not but what other option did they have? 

    So not really a comparable situation, especially as SWG was a bug and exploit ridden mess even at the best of times. 

    As for this... Guess Blizzard is scoring some quick PR points, cost them next to nothing and generats a huge pop, especially for something that is at least 4-6 years away. (post-legion expansion and then we might talk) unless the nossy guys have some really magic bullet to solve the cost issue... 
    Oh you're on the WoW executive board?  Cool what else can you tell us about time lines?!  4 to 6 years away ... lol.  They could probably have legacy servers up within a year no problem.  But I think what may come out of this instead is working out an agreement with 3rd party providers.  Too early to tell, but it's funny how no matter what happens the detractors refuse to acknowledge which way the wind is blowing.
    They explained that it would be very difficult and something they knew people wanted but that it would take a lot of time and manpower etc.  I am guessing twess is basing his thoughts off of their response to why they asked for the server to  be closed.  

    "We explored options for developing classic servers and none could be executed without great difficulty," Brack says, in directly addressing the issue of official legacy servers. "There are tremendous operational challenges to integrating classic servers, not to mention the ongoing support of multiple live versions for every aspect of WoW." 

    They also dismissed licensing to 3rd parties I believe although I agree that that would be the most likely route if it ever does happen.

    "And while we’ve looked into the possibility -- there is not a clear legal path to protect Blizzard’s IP and grant an operating license to a pirate server."
    I hate to say it but they are lying that it would take great difficulty.  It's only true if they have to regenerate 100% of their old code AND integrate it into battlenet.  Honestly they would be better served running the emulator if they dont have the old code to go back to, and if they do have the old code to go back to its very easy today to emulate an older OS.  Now if they did either there will be some work the TOUGH spot would be to integrate it with Battlenet.  They dont need to do that today, that can be a project for the 6 to 12 month time frame if at the 6 month mark servers are still going strong.

    Mark Kern knows what it takes and he has gone out and said that it would be a project but Blizzard is acting as if it would be like building a new MMO from the ground up when it is really not.  Like I said the ONLY way this project is hard is if they start building the entire game from scratch again.  
    I would agree.  I'm thinking it is a control issue as well.  If they go with the emulator etc. they would want to completely run it.  To charge, it would have to meet their standards etc.  Maybe they will look at what was done and see if they can find a quick solution that makes money and won't damage their name etc.

    I don't even buy that SWG pre - CU code was "lost" or "destroyed"

    Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    laserit said:
    Great News

    Nothing but respect to Blizzard, for treating the issue this way.

    I look forward to what the future may bring.

    I'm optimistic.
    It would be rather silly if you can only respect them for doing what you want to see, I'm not saying that's the case, it just comes off that way based on the way some of your past posts were written. I'm happy for you folks if you get what you want, but damn we're all adults here, adults shouldn't delve out respect only when they think they may be getting what they want.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


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