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I am taking an Ethics of Hacking class. Please take this BDO hacking survey.

justastudentjustastudent Member UncommonPosts: 16

I am taking an Ethical Hacking class and for our final project we are supposed to take a poll and write a paper on hacking. I chose hacking in MMORPG's as my subject. Please take this survey. It is 100% anonymous and will only be shared with my instructor, unless you all want to see the results as well. No IP's or anything else will be shared. If you want to see the results, post below.

It is just 2 questions, does not identify you in any way, takes less than 30 seconds, AND it would help me a TON if you take it. Just please, please be honest, and don't bypass Survey Monkey's simple IP block to vote more than once.

The more people I can have answer, the better my sample size will be, and my paper will reflect that.

Thank you all very, very much.

Sorry for doing this, but this is my final project and I want an A. Thought I would ask a community that is actually effected by this, as this topic thoroughly interests me.

Comments

  • justastudentjustastudent Member UncommonPosts: 16
    How odd it is not letting me edit my post. This is the survey link: 
    https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/7C3X68N
    The one above is not working for some reason.
  • WoeToTheVanquishedWoeToTheVanquished Member UncommonPosts: 276
    I wanted to see the survey results.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Not to nitpick but if you chose hacking in MMORPG's as your subject then you might want to expand your survey to include a range of MMORPG's and not just Black Desert. If I was your prof I would be deducting marks automatically for not setting up your survey correctly, using too small a pool of games to get definitive data and possibly for having title and body not matching up, e.g., A study of hacking in MMORPG's as the title but your paper is about hacking in BDO.

    Aside from that have fun with the paper!
  • justastudentjustastudent Member UncommonPosts: 16
    edited April 2016
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?

  • justastudentjustastudent Member UncommonPosts: 16
    edited April 2016
    Kefo said:
    Not to nitpick but if you chose hacking in MMORPG's as your subject then you might want to expand your survey to include a range of MMORPG's and not just Black Desert. If I was your prof I would be deducting marks automatically for not setting up your survey correctly, using too small a pool of games to get definitive data and possibly for having title and body not matching up, e.g., A study of hacking in MMORPG's as the title but your paper is about hacking in BDO.

    Aside from that have fun with the paper!
    We have to focus on one game. My profesor suggested World of Warcraft. Googling "MMORPG Hacking" and selecting "Past 24 hours" brings up Black Desert Online, and so that I what I went with.

    Setting everything up within the presented guidelines is part of my grade. I can't just pick and chose what I want.
  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    edited April 2016
    Kefo said:
    Not to nitpick but if you chose hacking in MMORPG's as your subject then you might want to expand your survey to include a range of MMORPG's and not just Black Desert. If I was your prof I would be deducting marks automatically for not setting up your survey correctly, using too small a pool of games to get definitive data and possibly for having title and body not matching up, e.g., A study of hacking in MMORPG's as the title but your paper is about hacking in BDO.

    Aside from that have fun with the paper!
    We have to focus on one game. My profesor suggested World of Warcraft. Googling "MMORPG Hacking" and selecting "Past 24 hours" brings up Black Desert Online, and so that I what I went with.

    Setting everything up within the presented guidelines is part of my grade. I can't just pick and chose what I want.
     Wait a second, you say you can't pick what you want, and you professor recommended WoW. Yet you simply googled mmo hacks and picked BDO out of the blue. So which is it, can you pick or can't you?

    https://youtu.be/ueZ6tvqhk8U
  • justastudentjustastudent Member UncommonPosts: 16
    edited April 2016
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?


    Why are you focusing on Black Desert Online - seems very strange to just pick one game.
    Do you play BD, if so - what server/class/level? Are you in an end-game guild? Do you PvP?
    Have you seen hacks in game?

    The survey seems pretty useless to an actual paper on ethical hacking - even as a "check - did a survey" requirment, it's weak.

    You say you have to stay impartial, but you were so quick to label my posts as negative?

    Your avatar, your name - it screams of something to support your student story.
    I answered your question in another thread.
    Do a google search for "MMORPG Hack". Set it to search the past 24 hours. Nothing but BDO comes up. That is why it was chosen. I have to pick an MMOG that was recently in the news for having hacking issues. BDO meets that criteria.

    Yes, I play BDO. 

    I have a 56 Sorceress, and a lot of alts. I can't reveal my server until the survey is over.

    Yes I have seen 7 hackers so far BUT that is in over a month of playing. It has gotten worse lately as more and more hacks are exposed. I blame http://mmogfails.blogspot.com/ but I wont give you my opinion of the site and issue until my minimum of 48 hours worth of surveying is up.

    I labeled your posts as negative by viewing your history. Most of your topics are nothing but negative comments about BDO. But now that I know your stance is that exploits are best fixed by exposing them, I understand why you do this.

    I found my avatar funny by googling "poor student", so that is what I went with.

    I will answer any and all questions you have, just please answer mine as well... Not that I have any right now  :)

  • justastudentjustastudent Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Realizer said:
    Kefo said:
    Not to nitpick but if you chose hacking in MMORPG's as your subject then you might want to expand your survey to include a range of MMORPG's and not just Black Desert. If I was your prof I would be deducting marks automatically for not setting up your survey correctly, using too small a pool of games to get definitive data and possibly for having title and body not matching up, e.g., A study of hacking in MMORPG's as the title but your paper is about hacking in BDO.

    Aside from that have fun with the paper!
    We have to focus on one game. My profesor suggested World of Warcraft. Googling "MMORPG Hacking" and selecting "Past 24 hours" brings up Black Desert Online, and so that I what I went with.

    Setting everything up within the presented guidelines is part of my grade. I can't just pick and chose what I want.
     Wait a second, you say you can't pick what you want, and you professor recommended WoW. Yet you simply googled mmo hacks and picked BDO out of the blue. So which is it, can you pick or can't you?

    https://youtu.be/ueZ6tvqhk8U
    Please re-read my post. I had to pick an MMORPG that was recently reported about as having hacking issues. The WoW bit was just a suggestion and is what 7 other people are doing. I do not want to write about the same thing.

    I have not played WoW in 3 years. Writing about it would require I spend at least 40 hours getting re-acquainted with the game.

  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?


    What school has this class?  Give details on it so we can google this class you are taking.
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

    Epic Music:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1

    https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1

    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

    John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."

    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

    LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"




  • justastudentjustastudent Member UncommonPosts: 16
    edited April 2016
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?


    Why are you focusing on Black Desert Online - seems very strange to just pick one game.
    Do you play BD, if so - what server/class/level? Are you in an end-game guild? Do you PvP?
    Have you seen hacks in game?

    The survey seems pretty useless to an actual paper on ethical hacking - even as a "check - did a survey" requirment, it's weak.

    You say you have to stay impartial, but you were so quick to label my posts as negative?

    Your avatar, your name - it screams of something to support your student story.
    I answered your question in another thread.
    Do a google search for "MMORPG Hack". Set it to search the past 24 hours. Nothing but BDO comes up. That is why it was chosen. I have to pick an MMOG that was recently in the news for having hacking issues. BDO meets that criteria.

    Yes, I play BDO. 

    I have a 56 Sorceress, and a lot of alts. I can't reveal my server until the survey is over.

    Yes I have seen 7 hackers so far BUT that is in over a month of playing. It has gotten worse lately as more and more hacks are exposed. I blame http://mmogfails.blogspot.com/ but I wont give you my opinion of the site and issue until my minimum of 48 hours worth of surveying is up.

    I labeled your posts as negative by viewing your history. Most of your topics are nothing but negative comments about BDO. But now that I know your stance is that exploits are best fixed by exposing them, I understand why you do this.

    I found my avatar funny by googling "poor student", so that is what I went with.

    I will answer any and all questions you have, just please answer mine as well... Not that I have any right now  :)



    You have a 56 sorceress, you have seen hacks in game, and the reason why you picked BDO for your hacking paper is because a google search for "MMORPG Hack" gets "nothing but BDO comes up"?

    Seriously?




    Now you see why I don't believe you.

    Wow, very hostile and needless.
    Why did feel you had to try and discredit me?

    Btw, here is my proof that I had to take for my class.
    I took this SS yesterday at about this time.

    waynejr2 said:
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?


    What school has this class?  Give details on it so we can google this class you are taking.
    Already done in another thread.
    Please tell me why you want this information?
    Why do you need to google the class I am taking? Am I asking to google your identity?

    Please respond, this is pure gold for my class.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?


    Why are you focusing on Black Desert Online - seems very strange to just pick one game.
    Do you play BD, if so - what server/class/level? Are you in an end-game guild? Do you PvP?
    Have you seen hacks in game?

    The survey seems pretty useless to an actual paper on ethical hacking - even as a "check - did a survey" requirment, it's weak.

    You say you have to stay impartial, but you were so quick to label my posts as negative?

    Your avatar, your name - it screams of something to support your student story.
    I answered your question in another thread.
    Do a google search for "MMORPG Hack". Set it to search the past 24 hours. Nothing but BDO comes up. That is why it was chosen. I have to pick an MMOG that was recently in the news for having hacking issues. BDO meets that criteria.

    Yes, I play BDO. 

    I have a 56 Sorceress, and a lot of alts. I can't reveal my server until the survey is over.

    Yes I have seen 7 hackers so far BUT that is in over a month of playing. It has gotten worse lately as more and more hacks are exposed. I blame http://mmogfails.blogspot.com/ but I wont give you my opinion of the site and issue until my minimum of 48 hours worth of surveying is up.

    I labeled your posts as negative by viewing your history. Most of your topics are nothing but negative comments about BDO. But now that I know your stance is that exploits are best fixed by exposing them, I understand why you do this.

    I found my avatar funny by googling "poor student", so that is what I went with.

    I will answer any and all questions you have, just please answer mine as well... Not that I have any right now  :)



    You have a 56 sorceress, you have seen hacks in game, and the reason why you picked BDO for your hacking paper is because a google search for "MMORPG Hack" gets "nothing but BDO comes up"?

    Seriously?




    Now you see why I don't believe you.

    Wow, very hostile and needless.
    Why did feel you had to try and discredit me?

    Btw, here is my proof that I had to take for my class.
    I took this SS yesterday at about this time.

    waynejr2 said:
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?


    What school has this class?  Give details on it so we can google this class you are taking.
    Already done in another thread.
    Please tell me why you want this information?
    Why do you need to google the class I am taking? Am I asking to google your identity?

    Please respond, this is pure gold for my class.

    Because it smells of bullcrap.
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

    Epic Music:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1

    https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1

    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

    John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."

    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

    LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"




  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    I'd give you an F- just on general principle.
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Excuse me, but you used "in the news" and "google". 

    Since when is google, news, let alone forum posts? 

    Why do you have 3 different threads on this? 
    Why would you link a poll for a specific game, to a website for hundreds of game forums, where you can get people voting that don't even play the game. 

    The fact you can't even verify that the people using the poll even play the game, let alone purchased it at any point, means your poll has ZERO VALIDITY. 

    I think you have an agenda, and it's got nothing to do with a class paper. 

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    So this is the legendary start. 

    Anyway. 

    If you still read this. You might gain some points if you actually defined what botting is and make sure that your informants know what actually defines a bot. 

    Now i am unsure at what level this course is given, but your setup seems sloppy and not very well thought out. If i was your examiner i would at best give you the lowest passing grade and implore you to actually put some effort in next time. 

    This have been a good conversation

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    waynejr2 said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?


    Why are you focusing on Black Desert Online - seems very strange to just pick one game.
    Do you play BD, if so - what server/class/level? Are you in an end-game guild? Do you PvP?
    Have you seen hacks in game?

    The survey seems pretty useless to an actual paper on ethical hacking - even as a "check - did a survey" requirment, it's weak.

    You say you have to stay impartial, but you were so quick to label my posts as negative?

    Your avatar, your name - it screams of something to support your student story.
    I answered your question in another thread.
    Do a google search for "MMORPG Hack". Set it to search the past 24 hours. Nothing but BDO comes up. That is why it was chosen. I have to pick an MMOG that was recently in the news for having hacking issues. BDO meets that criteria.

    Yes, I play BDO. 

    I have a 56 Sorceress, and a lot of alts. I can't reveal my server until the survey is over.

    Yes I have seen 7 hackers so far BUT that is in over a month of playing. It has gotten worse lately as more and more hacks are exposed. I blame http://mmogfails.blogspot.com/ but I wont give you my opinion of the site and issue until my minimum of 48 hours worth of surveying is up.

    I labeled your posts as negative by viewing your history. Most of your topics are nothing but negative comments about BDO. But now that I know your stance is that exploits are best fixed by exposing them, I understand why you do this.

    I found my avatar funny by googling "poor student", so that is what I went with.

    I will answer any and all questions you have, just please answer mine as well... Not that I have any right now  :)



    You have a 56 sorceress, you have seen hacks in game, and the reason why you picked BDO for your hacking paper is because a google search for "MMORPG Hack" gets "nothing but BDO comes up"?

    Seriously?



    Now you see why I don't believe you.

    Wow, very hostile and needless.
    Why did feel you had to try and discredit me?

    Btw, here is my proof that I had to take for my class.
    I took this SS yesterday at about this time.

    waynejr2 said:
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?


    What school has this class?  Give details on it so we can google this class you are taking.
    Already done in another thread.
    Please tell me why you want this information?
    Why do you need to google the class I am taking? Am I asking to google your identity?

    Please respond, this is pure gold for my class.

    Because it smells of bullcrap.
    As does your post history. 

    You seem to be someone who is very unhappy with his personal life. Most likely of the teen age and still living with your family. You actually find happiness in anonymously putting others down and trying to prove you are right.
    What a sad existence.

    I digress, I am done with this site. If "people" like you are on here, I will run away as far as humanly possible.
    Get a life man.

    I used this site to further my life, while you are forever stuck in a very sad state. Good luck to you.
    Congratulations on remaining "impartial" as is required by your "class project", lol

    You will no doubt be top of the class, given that most of the other students appear to have no googling skills  or knowledge of MMO current affairs whatsoever. They are all chasing WoW, which hasn't  been "recently in the news for having hacking issues".

    It's a bit disconcerting that your instructor seems to have such a limited grasp of MMO current affairs, so much so that he would suggest WoW as an example of a game that recently made the headlines due to hacking....

    Nice that your "google search" also returned primarily BDO references, it must have been very convenient, given that you are a BDO player...

    But it's strange that your search returned no references to the current furore about hacking in The Division. Perhaps you're using a special "student version" of Google...
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    That survey is rigged.  There is no way 50% of mmo players have hacked BDO.  First off you asked mmo players in general and not BDO players only. Then you forgot to include the fact that lot of people don't play BDO so they would be in the no answers.  Anyways sorry didn't mean to be so harsh but you can use poll choices to help direct and divert anomalies.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    Ethics of hacking class, lol.  

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    flizzer said:
    Ethics of hacking class, lol.  

    It is not as far-fetched as it sounds. Beyond the old black hat/white hat schism you have hacktivisim and their likes. 

    To have a course that set the students the tasks of reflecting on how and why hackings is used both as a destructive tool and a tool for change and how society could react to this is important. Especially as we are more and more digitized and connected. =) 

    This have been a good conversation

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    DMKano said:
    Sorry OP - I don't believe you at all.
    I have to stay impartial while I conduct this survey, so think what you will.
    Feel free to goolge Dr. Kaleem and see what classes he teaches.
    Or use this: http://bfy.tw/5Wx1

    I am also extremely interested in why you don't believe me. Can you please elaborate?

    Did.  Says he has a course on 
    • Securing Cyberspace (ST 8660)
    I guess you might say that relates to hacking, but I mean it still seems strange.
  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    As does your post history. 

    You seem to be someone who is very unhappy with his personal life. Most likely of the teen age and still living with your family. You actually find happiness in anonymously putting others down and trying to prove you are right.
    What a sad existence.

    I digress, I am done with this site. If "people" like you are on here, I will run away as far as humanly possible.
    Get a life man.

    I used this site to further my life, while you are forever stuck in a very sad state. Good luck to you.
    He never put you down, you're playing the victim and personally attacking him at the same time, it's mind boggling.
    Can we please just report this guy and lock / close this thread?
  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    DMKano said:

    You have a 56 sorceress, you have seen hacks in game, and the reason why you picked BDO for your hacking paper is because a google search for "MMORPG Hack" gets "nothing but BDO comes up"?

    Seriously?


    Yep.
    The first reason the OP gave for choosing BDO as his main subject  contraddicts the second.
    If he was playing BDO already and witnessed hacks, he didn't need to Google it, that's BS.

    Nice try OP, I hope you get paid well for what you are doing........

  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Odds are pretty good the topic assigned to the class was ethics and that each student was allowed to choose a topic related to the field of computer science.  Sort of like all those psychology class students doing surveys on why people play MMORPGs.

    I personally prefer studies on the viscosity of ketchup on an inclined plane to these because at least people might actually use the data gathered.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    If I were you I would go to some cheat sites and ask them to take your survey.  Just make sure you have some good malware and trojan protection software running on your computer or better yet use the schools computers for this.  That would tell you why players cheat from the cheaters point of view.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507
    Have you considered not referring to the people you're asking for help as "human scum", as you did in this thread?

    http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/450201/please-delete-this-account-i-will-never-come-back-here-again/p1
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