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• josko9 Member RarePosts: 577

  May 2016

  Shortest Beta ever?
  
  In before half the game releases broken (It doesn't look anywhere near good in Alpha).
  WoD was unplayable the 1st month, no high hopes here either, Legion will be likely unplayable for several months.
• Albatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671

  May 2016

  Let the keys fly I guess so more of us can see if the year+ content drought will be worth the wait!
• v_Ve Member UncommonPosts: 312

  May 2016

  Excited!

  Witty & Wicked
• NathanPenetration Member UncommonPosts: 26

  May 2016

  The game should be discounted to those of us who were bait and switched with that piece of garbage expansion WoD. It was the most expensive expansion to date, with the least launch content to date, and 10 months of no patched in content... inexcusable.
• qwerhelix Member UncommonPosts: 29

  May 2016

  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  

  The game should be discounted to those of us who were bait and switched with that piece of garbage expansion WoD. It was the most expensive expansion to date, with the least launch content to date, and 10 months of no patched in content... inexcusable.

  
  

  
  
  inflation, better graphics, better models, new animations and so on. it cost money. burning cruasde looks cheap and was cheap because of low quality models, low quality zones, borning quests, no videos and so on. less details, less employees, less money. it's simple as that. and dont try to act like burning crusade was better because if they realease it today like that you would be so pissed
• NathanPenetration Member UncommonPosts: 26

  May 2016

  
  

  qwerhelix said:

  
  

  
  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  
  

  The game should be discounted to those of us who were bait and switched with that piece of garbage expansion WoD. It was the most expensive expansion to date, with the least launch content to date, and 10 months of no patched in content... inexcusable.

  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  inflation, better graphics, better models, new animations and so on. it cost money. burning cruasde looks cheap and was cheap because of low quality models, low quality zones, borning quests, no videos and so on. less details, less employees, less money. it's simple as that. and dont try to act like burning crusade was better because if they realease it today like that you would be so pissed

  
  

  
  
  I think you're in the minority with your opinion. Burning Crusade had a ton of content at its launch... it had many well-designed zones and dungeons that were actually fun to play through unlike the ones in WoD. Ask the 6 million subscribers who jumped ship within a year whether they care about the videos and high quality models. The fact they are basing Legion off the primary villain from BC as fan service is more than enough to prove my point.
• redcore Member UncommonPosts: 108

  May 2016

  where can i get that illidan shirt hazzikostas is wearing please?
• nate1980 Member UncommonPosts: 2,074

  May 2016

  
  

  josko9 said:

  
  

  Shortest Beta ever?
  
  
  
  In before half the game releases broken (It doesn't look anywhere near good in Alpha).
  
  WoD was unplayable the 1st month, no high hopes here either, Legion will be likely unplayable for several months.

  
  

  
  
  WOD was not released broken. It was a high quality and well polished release. I had zero issues.
• nate1980 Member UncommonPosts: 2,074

  May 2016

  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  

  The game should be discounted to those of us who were bait and switched with that piece of garbage expansion WoD. It was the most expensive expansion to date, with the least launch content to date, and 10 months of no patched in content... inexcusable.

  
  

  
  
  WOW is a subscription based game. That means you are free to subscribe or unsubscribe whenever you feel there is or is not any value to the game. I got my moneys worth and then unsubscribed and I'm happy in FF14 now. No one is forcing you to pay money to Blizzard.
  
• Darkcrystal Member UncommonPosts: 963

  May 2016

  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  

  
  
  

  qwerhelix said:

  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  
  
  

  The game should be discounted to those of us who were bait and switched with that piece of garbage expansion WoD. It was the most expensive expansion to date, with the least launch content to date, and 10 months of no patched in content... inexcusable.

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  inflation, better graphics, better models, new animations and so on. it cost money. burning cruasde looks cheap and was cheap because of low quality models, low quality zones, borning quests, no videos and so on. less details, less employees, less money. it's simple as that. and dont try to act like burning crusade was better because if they realease it today like that you would be so pissed

  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  I think you're in the minority with your opinion. Burning Crusade had a ton of content at its launch... it had many well-designed zones and dungeons that were actually fun to play through unlike the ones in WoD. Ask the 6 million subscribers who jumped ship within a year whether they care about the videos and high quality models. The fact they are basing Legion off the primary villain from BC as fan service is more than enough to prove my point.

  
  

  
  
  ROFL... Your point means nothing guess what games cost money to run, and make, pay what they charge or maybe its time for a new hobby.... To many of you complain about the cost of a game.... Guess what make your own, then just maybe you will understand that it costs money to make.. Guess what 3ds max cost for one person... 3-5k. I should know I own it... Kids today....
• gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919

  May 2016

  
  

  Darkcrystal said:

  
  

  
  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  qwerhelix said:

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  
  
  
  

  The game should be discounted to those of us who were bait and switched with that piece of garbage expansion WoD. It was the most expensive expansion to date, with the least launch content to date, and 10 months of no patched in content... inexcusable.

  
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  ROFL... Your point means nothing guess what games cost money to run, and make, pay what they charge or maybe its time for a new hobby.... To many of you complain about the cost of a game.... Guess what make your own, then just maybe you will understand that it costs money to make.. Guess what 3ds max cost for one person... 3-5k. I should know I own it... Kids today....

  
  

  
  
  I wonder whether you are part of "the problem"?
  
  Content costs money. Blizzard should absolutely charge for Legion. Box price+$15,
  
  Running the servers though - clearly not $15 a month. Many other games prove this. And no that $15 doesn't pay for the devs - those will be covered by box price+$15, just like they are for a game like Withcher 3.
  
  Since SOO in MoP there has been 1 (one) non-paid "content patch". In nearly 3 years. For anyone who has been subscribed continuously that is over $500. For 1 patch.
  
  As you say it does indeed help to know what things cost. Whilst people are happy with this though it will continue. Sad as well since this means Bliz have no incentive to release content patches.
  
  
• qwerhelix Member UncommonPosts: 29

  May 2016

  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  

  
  
  

  qwerhelix said:

  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  
  
  

  The game should be discounted to those of us who were bait and switched with that piece of garbage expansion WoD. It was the most expensive expansion to date, with the least launch content to date, and 10 months of no patched in content... inexcusable.

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  inflation, better graphics, better models, new animations and so on. it cost money. burning cruasde looks cheap and was cheap because of low quality models, low quality zones, borning quests, no videos and so on. less details, less employees, less money. it's simple as that. and dont try to act like burning crusade was better because if they realease it today like that you would be so pissed

  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  I think you're in the minority with your opinion. Burning Crusade had a ton of content at its launch... it had many well-designed zones and dungeons that were actually fun to play through unlike the ones in WoD. Ask the 6 million subscribers who jumped ship within a year whether they care about the videos and high quality models. The fact they are basing Legion off the primary villain from BC as fan service is more than enough to prove my point.

  
  

  
  
  yeah because majority is umm how to put it. knows nothing about this industry. where the money goes and so on. back then when they was doing burning crusade salaries was much much lower. lets say you start working as a concept artist so you will get 45-55k $ a year. and this is how much you get as a junior concept artist plus bonuses. but we are talking about blizzard. juniors dont work at blizzard. they hire only artists, designers with experience. so the salaries goes from 75k to 150k a year. and this is just regular employees and you need a lot of them. art directors, creative directors, producers, executive producer gets much hgher salaries 150k-1kk and even more a year. and on top of that new expantions burn much more time because of graphics, high res textures, detailed models and so on. at this point you cant get away with just a lot of content, thats why burning crusade was so "good" as you say. because they was able to do it much faster because of low res textures, models and so on. they didnt even cared about how it all looked. and thats why we have call of duty, assasins creed looking awesome but the story is so boring and so on. because majority of time goes into graphics (people want it to look good) but the sacrifice is content and story. and sorry for my english, english is not my main language
• qwerhelix Member UncommonPosts: 29

  May 2016

  
  

  qwerhelix said:

  
  

  
  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  qwerhelix said:

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  NathanPenetration said:

  
  
  
  
  

  The game should be discounted to those of us who were bait and switched with that piece of garbage expansion WoD. It was the most expensive expansion to date, with the least launch content to date, and 10 months of no patched in content... inexcusable.

  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  inflation, better graphics, better models, new animations and so on. it cost money. burning cruasde looks cheap and was cheap because of low quality models, low quality zones, borning quests, no videos and so on. less details, less employees, less money. it's simple as that. and dont try to act like burning crusade was better because if they realease it today like that you would be so pissed

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  I think you're in the minority with your opinion. Burning Crusade had a ton of content at its launch... it had many well-designed zones and dungeons that were actually fun to play through unlike the ones in WoD. Ask the 6 million subscribers who jumped ship within a year whether they care about the videos and high quality models. The fact they are basing Legion off the primary villain from BC as fan service is more than enough to prove my point.

  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  yeah because majority is umm how to put it. knows nothing about this industry. where the money goes and so on. back then when they was doing burning crusade salaries was much much lower. lets say you start working as a concept artist so you will get 45-55k $ a year. and this is how much you get as a junior concept artist plus bonuses. but we are talking about blizzard. juniors dont work at blizzard. they hire only artists, designers with experience. so the salaries goes from 75k to 150k a year. and this is just regular employees and you need a lot of them. art directors, creative directors, producers, executive producer gets much hgher salaries 150k-1kk and even more a year. and on top of that new expantions burn much more time because of graphics, high res textures, detailed models and so on. at this point you cant get away with just a lot of content, thats why burning crusade was so "good" as you say. because they was able to do it much faster because of low res textures, models and so on. they didnt even cared about how it all looked. and thats why we have call of duty, assasins creed looking awesome but the story is so boring and so on. because majority of time goes into graphics (people want it to look good) but the sacrifice is content and story. and sorry for my english, english is not my main language

  
  

  
  
  and its your fault players that u play video games like crazy. it takes a lot of time to make it. but you trying to get full lvl full top gear as fast as possible. dont play it 5-10 hours a day and you will see how good these games are.