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Cheating Players To Be Perma-Banned On First Offense

ShelassaShelassa MMORPG.COM Staff UncommonPosts: 616

imageCheating Players To Be Perma-Banned On First Offense

Blizzard is making no bones about its stance against the cheaters in Overwatch. According to a new post on Battle.net forums, any players found using hacks, bots or third-party software will be permanently banned on their first offense, no warnings given.

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  • XarkoXarko Member EpicPosts: 1,180
    I'll believe it when I see it.
  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 766
    Xarko said:
    I'll believe it when I see it.
    you mean when you get banned for cheating?

    or for rage reporting really good players because they must be cheating to be that good to placate a bruised ego?
  • KrigglesKriggles Member UncommonPosts: 33
    Good, tired of this pervasive attitude of many that cheating is no big deal in online multiplayer games. Enjoy the banstick to those who try.
  • XarkoXarko Member EpicPosts: 1,180
    edited May 2016

    sayuu said:


    Xarko said:

    I'll believe it when I see it.


    you mean when you get banned for cheating?

    or for rage reporting really good players because they must be cheating to be that good to placate a bruised ego?



    Anything. Everybody always says how harsh they will be agaisnt cheaters, but thats just PR talk.

    And rage reporting I actually dont think will be that big of an issuse in Overwatch. With this many autoaiming and instakilling abilities, anyone can kill anyone. Its an easy to learn, easy to master kind of game.
  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    Permanent ban for first offense coupled with the fact that it's not a Free to Play title should go a long ways to keeping the matches clear of cheaters.

    That being said, there's always the possibility that some players who come across as "too good" will be banned.  I was banned from a couple of Modern Warfare servers back in the day due to the fact that I was easily doubling the amount of kills of the next highest player, so they banned me under the suspicion.

    I could easily see groups of people reporting the same player and then poof, there goes his account when he's just really good.  Although, I would hope and pray that they will go on more than the word of some disgruntled players.
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    edited May 2016
    "What does this mean for Overwatch? If a player is found to be cheating—or using hacks, bots, or third-party software that provides any sort of unfair advantage—that player will be permanently banned from the game. Full stop. Not only does cheating undermine the spirit of fair play that all of our products are based on, but it works to diminish the fun and enjoyment of others. While we are unlikely to publicly acknowledge when accounts are closed as a result of cheating or using unauthorized programs, we have and will continue to monitor Overwatch for exploitative behavior, as well as take action as needed to preserve the integrity of game. "

    I can only assume this means bots or hacks software such as aimbots, or such scripts that automate gameplay, however (DEFINE UNFAIR ADVANTAGE?)

    Is having a Mouse with 5 buttons on it set to switch weapons differently, or preform other actions illegal now?

    Is having Oculus Rift, or other VR applications in this game illegal? They can provide a unfair advantage?
  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981
    What happens if it was false detection ?



  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Does not matter of you cheat or not the law says they must provide that if it is an online game, they MUST make every effort to provide the consumer with reasonable access to the product they purchased. Accusations of cheating are not enough according to the law, they need it clearly stated on the box or digital download that suspicion of cheating means we can steal your money, otherwise it is against the law for them to block access. Sorry but that is why so many companies do not ban cheaters, because they law is very clear and on the side of the consumer.
  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 766
    edited May 2016
    Xarko said:

    sayuu said:


    Xarko said:

    I'll believe it when I see it.


    you mean when you get banned for cheating?

    or for rage reporting really good players because they must be cheating to be that good to placate a bruised ego?



    Anything. Everybody always says how harsh they will be agaisnt cheaters, but thats just PR talk.

    And rage reporting I actually dont think will be that big of an issuse in Overwatch. With this many autoaiming and instakilling abilities, anyone can kill anyone. Its an easy to learn, easy to master kind of game.
    are you a Bastion Main?

    how high did you get in the CB ranked play?

    what you or I might think is cheating "aimbots" most times are just really really good players. Most people think that they are "good" when they are in fact mediocre.


    hence the ego placating rage reporting. . . 
  • Saxx0nSaxx0n PR/Brand Manager BitBox Ltd.Member UncommonPosts: 999
    Translation: It is easy to hack the client...
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    edited May 2016
    psiic said:
    Does not matter of you cheat or not the law says they must provide that if it is an online game, they MUST make every effort to provide the consumer with reasonable access to the product they purchased. Accusations of cheating are not enough according to the law, they need it clearly stated on the box or digital download that suspicion of cheating means we can steal your money, otherwise it is against the law for them to block access. Sorry but that is why so many companies do not ban cheaters, because they law is very clear and on the side of the consumer.
    I do agree with this however regardless of (EULA) Users who buy (Over Watch) for example should be made clear on the box in red writing on the back (Acceptance of Terms & Conditions on www.blizzard.com) is required to play the game which can only be played online, and on this site it would say what the terms & Conditions are or EULA, as well as No Cheating Allowed.

    If players do not agree within 30 days un-opened software or not it can be returned for a (FULL REFUND)

    Same thing with Xbox and Playstation, it should say that players are not allowed to (Jail Break) or (Modify) the consoles on the box itself but it doesn't and people do it then lose online access its pretty stupid because the person owns the hardware and people who do this without knowledge of such should be entitled to a refund... (This is why I hate sony as a company) and I see (Daybreak Games as a failure) for complaining over PS3 mods.

    But cheaters deserve to be banned I really don't care if you want to hack, then I don't care but keep it on your private servers in your own game, or perhaps like GTA 5 have a cheater pool where everyone is free to cheat and hack its stupid to disrupt players who want to enjoy the game.
  • XarkoXarko Member EpicPosts: 1,180

    sayuu said:


    Xarko said:



    sayuu said:




    Xarko said:


    I'll believe it when I see it.




    you mean when you get banned for cheating?

    or for rage reporting really good players because they must be cheating to be that good to placate a bruised ego?






    Anything. Everybody always says how harsh they will be agaisnt cheaters, but thats just PR talk.



    And rage reporting I actually dont think will be that big of an issuse in Overwatch. With this many autoaiming and instakilling abilities, anyone can kill anyone. Its an easy to learn, easy to master kind of game.


    are you a Bastion Main?

    how high did you get in the CB ranked play?

    what you or I might think is cheating "aimbots" most times are just really really good players. Most people think that they are "good" when they are in fact mediocre.

    hence the ego placating rage reporting. . . 



    Your projecting is off the charts, but Im not gonna make a fool out of you, because deep down Im a nice person.
  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 766
    Xarko said:

    sayuu said:


    Xarko said:



    sayuu said:




    Xarko said:


    I'll believe it when I see it.




    you mean when you get banned for cheating?

    or for rage reporting really good players because they must be cheating to be that good to placate a bruised ego?






    Anything. Everybody always says how harsh they will be agaisnt cheaters, but thats just PR talk.



    And rage reporting I actually dont think will be that big of an issuse in Overwatch. With this many autoaiming and instakilling abilities, anyone can kill anyone. Its an easy to learn, easy to master kind of game.


    are you a Bastion Main?

    how high did you get in the CB ranked play?

    what you or I might think is cheating "aimbots" most times are just really really good players. Most people think that they are "good" when they are in fact mediocre.

    hence the ego placating rage reporting. . . 



    Your projecting is off the charts, but Im not gonna make a fool out of you, because deep down Im a nice person.
    imply Im a fool in the same sentence you claim to be a nice person.

    K.
  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534
    Xarko said:

    sayuu said:


    Xarko said:

    I'll believe it when I see it.


    you mean when you get banned for cheating?

    or for rage reporting really good players because they must be cheating to be that good to placate a bruised ego?



    Anything. Everybody always says how harsh they will be agaisnt cheaters, but thats just PR talk.

    And rage reporting I actually dont think will be that big of an issuse in Overwatch. With this many autoaiming and instakilling abilities, anyone can kill anyone. Its an easy to learn, easy to master kind of game.
    i don't think you got the main point in that news.

    you get banned, you screw up your whole blizz account. and for most players, that includes quite some games and money.

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,772
    That's really good news, but I hope they also are prepared to review bans because sometimes you can get really lucky with shots, especially sniping, and it looks like cheating but it's not.

    Still I think this should be the policy for all online games.  Better to err on the side of fair play, but be prepared to reverse bans if people are found innocent.

    "I'll believe it when I see it. "

    Pretty sure Blizzard has the best history of zero-tolerance towards cheaters in MMOs at least.
  • XarkoXarko Member EpicPosts: 1,180
    edited May 2016
    sayuu said:
    Xarko said:

    sayuu said:


    Xarko said:



    sayuu said:




    Xarko said:


    I'll believe it when I see it.




    you mean when you get banned for cheating?

    or for rage reporting really good players because they must be cheating to be that good to placate a bruised ego?






    Anything. Everybody always says how harsh they will be agaisnt cheaters, but thats just PR talk.



    And rage reporting I actually dont think will be that big of an issuse in Overwatch. With this many autoaiming and instakilling abilities, anyone can kill anyone. Its an easy to learn, easy to master kind of game.


    are you a Bastion Main?

    how high did you get in the CB ranked play?

    what you or I might think is cheating "aimbots" most times are just really really good players. Most people think that they are "good" when they are in fact mediocre.

    hence the ego placating rage reporting. . . 



    Your projecting is off the charts, but Im not gonna make a fool out of you, because deep down Im a nice person.
    imply Im a fool in the same sentence you claim to be a nice person.

    K.
    and the fact that you just pointed it out makes it even funnier.

    Anyway, my point is, its really really easy to score kills in Overwatch and I havent seen anyone raging or accusing people of cheating in the game at all. Again, there so many ways to instakill someone that I guess people are kinda used to it and whether the person was cheating or not might not even make any difference.

    Im of course all for cheaters getting banned. I would actually go even further and not only ban them from the game, but also "mark" their battle.net account for other people to see he is hacker.

    False flags probably will happen, but anything can be sorted out if both sides are willing.
  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,527
    I really doubt they will ban anyone over reported players to be honest.  It will be more we found this script in our logs showing you were using a hack etc....  But this is the way it should be an one of the reason I think all games should at least be B2P.  You have to buy it again if you were cheating and got caught.  No just making a new account to do it again for free.  At least a step in the right direction.


  • tenfootgoatman123tenfootgoatman123 Member UncommonPosts: 53
    I think its great Blizzard are doing this . I am sure there will be some that will still think they can get away with this lets hope they are proven wrong .

    I have never understood the mentality of people who want to cheat in this way . They are robbing themselves of the fun and challenge of playing a game as well as spoiling the game for others .
  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,347
    System said:
    Cheating Players To Be Perma-Banned On First Offense

    Blizzard is making no bones about its stance against the cheaters in Overwatch. According to a new post on Battle.net forums, any players found using hacks, bots or third-party software will be permanently banned on their first offense, no warnings given.

    Read the full story here

    Who determines what is considered cheating?
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    Alverant said:
    System said:
    Cheating Players To Be Perma-Banned On First Offense

    Blizzard is making no bones about its stance against the cheaters in Overwatch. According to a new post on Battle.net forums, any players found using hacks, bots or third-party software will be permanently banned on their first offense, no warnings given.

    Read the full story here

    Who determines what is considered cheating?
    The company that owns the game. Who else?


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


  • DXSinsDXSins Member UncommonPosts: 324
    Saxx0n said:
    Translation: It is easy to hack the client...
    Does appear to be the trend with online FPS gameplay doesn't it.... gotten to the point now, where i just wait until a while after launch just to see how big of problem it is.

    It's becoming an industry / platform (PC) problem... so more companies need to follow threw with actions like this or its just going to keep getting worst as more and more keep and/or feel like they need to buy into these hacks to enjoy FPS gameplay on PC.
  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006
    /slowclap

    Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!

  • TsaboHavocTsaboHavoc Member UncommonPosts: 435
    i give them merits for this.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    H0urg1ass said:
    Permanent ban for first offense coupled with the fact that it's not a Free to Play title should go a long ways to keeping the matches clear of cheaters.

    That being said, there's always the possibility that some players who come across as "too good" will be banned.  I was banned from a couple of Modern Warfare servers back in the day due to the fact that I was easily doubling the amount of kills of the next highest player, so they banned me under the suspicion.

    I could easily see groups of people reporting the same player and then poof, there goes his account when he's just really good.  Although, I would hope and pray that they will go on more than the word of some disgruntled players.

    Is that a humble brag?  Are you going to be so good you will get banned? 
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  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    rofl. They've allowed that crap since WoW was released in that game, why would they change it now? What a joke. 
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