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Thinking of trying EQ 2? - WARNING
neya
Member Posts: 44
I wanted to give a heads up to all readers who are thinking of trying Everquest 2. Be prepared!
- You may have already played trial of the isle and decided that the game was great fun, with good graphics and an overall appeal. (like I did)
- You may then decide to go out and purchase EQ 2 and perhaps some of the expansions. (I bought EQ 2)
- You may then wait 6+ hours for everything to install and for the game to patch itself fully (like I did)
- You may then log in and find that you can barely move because of Nvidia Stuttering Issues which have plagued the games code from launch (like I did)
- When you can move and you get in an hours gameplay (10% of that gameplay time will be taking up waiting for each zone to load as you jump from zone instance to zone instance) (like I did)
- Then after you have zoned a few times, you can barely move again, because EQ 2 memory management is awful, and each time you zone, your memory usage is increased because of bad coding.
This is not just my experience but many many more players are experiencing the same issues. The code for this game is awful, if your used to playing system intensive games and getting high FPS with them, forget it in EQ 2.
Seriously, do not let Trial of the Isle confuse you into thinking this game is great, the game would be great if there wasn't bad memory management and Nvidia issues 1 year on.
I did warn you! 
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You do not experience any of the above on trial of the isle, only on full retail version.
So like I said, you have been warned
I dont have any of those problems, maybe your computer isn't the best? I play on high quality in the busiest of zones with no lag since I got 2 gigs of ram. The game looks and plays amazingly now and I can understand how it's just not as fun when it's laggy. Get your comp sorted out and it'll be great.
Check out these screenshots I took today. They look sweet but you really have to see it in person to revel in the true glory.
It's all very well posting screenshots of Everquest 2, but I can take really sweet screenshots also.
What is being discussed here is the performance issues surrounding Everquest 2. The backend of the game is so badly written that all systems will struggle at some point.
The Nvidia issues surrounding in-game stuttering has been officialy recognised by both SOE and Nvidia seeing as Nvidia have given their name and logo to Everquest 2. This issue has not yet been resolved 1 year on.
As for bad memory management, thousands of players are experiencing this issue, where crossing X amount of zones in-game causes massive memory loads on your machine, regardless of whether you have x amount of RAM.
CPU usage for the game is also considerably high with 99% of CPU resources being used on EQ 2 on an AMD 64 bit 3.4ghz Processor.
My system is far from weak in terms of spec. In most new titles I average 60-70 FPS on high to Max settings. On EQ 2 I get the 1-10 FPS regardless of how much content is in each zone. This could be due to the Nvidia Issue, but seeing as Nvidia cards are mass market, you would have thought they would have fixed this issue.
SOE have addressed this issue, and they recommend you roll your Forceware drivers back to a much earlier version, this is bad practice if you want to get the most out of your graphics card for the new titles released.
Be Warned
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You cannot possible complain on the loading time between the zones.
10% of all your time? That is the most redicilous I have ever heard.
It takes a maximum of 10 seconds between each zone for me. Often less. If that disturbs you you hardly have any nerves as all.
Or a computer which is below average for modern standards.
Installation took me about 30 minutes and patching took also 30 minutes, then I was right off to start playing. Guess it just differs from computer to computer.
If you really are gonna warn people you should bring up the real issues like the level differences for instance.
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I cant believe zoning takse only 10 seconds
but complaining that a whole 10% of your hour is wasted to zoning is a stupid complaint
I have an Nvidia card and neve had a problem, and i have a gig of RAM and never had a problem, niether have most people i know
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Please post your system specs including internet connection type/DL rate and CPU Usage, RAM usage and frame rate with EQ2 running at the following settings:
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High Quality
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Please allow 30-45 seconds from once you change your settings before taking the reading to allow your system to adjust.
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Game sux u need a goood comupter and good grapichic card.. then in the game the zone shifting take to long time. better in wow!!!
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I just started like last week. No problems!.....of course I've got a P4 2.8ghz and 2gigs and a new xp pro install, and clean HD.
I'm loving this game!
I played SWG for 2 years. Just quit in November 05. and on that game I had problems. but EQ2.
the key is the RAM. I had to play on "balanced" with 1gig of DDR 333 and a Geforce 6800 oc (RAID0 SCSI Ultra 3200) Athlon 64 3200+
I swapped out my ram for 2 gigs of DDR 400 and now I run the game on "High Quality" and It runs as good as it did with a gig set to balanced.
the game does manage memory for shit actually. With 1 gig I used to get memory errors which would exit the game inside dungeons within 20 minutes of entering, repeatable. I havnt had a single memory error since I upgraded.
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If i cant play the game at those settings then you cant either. If 2 players start casting spells with those settings your computer will explode. Sure, EQ2 looks good for screenshots but unless you have dual 7800gtx 512mb SLI and 4 gigs of dual channel ram then no, you wont be able to play at anytihng above "balanced" if you want to maintain a decent framerate. Dont put false hopes into peoples heads mate, you need a 5000$ computer to run EQ2 flawlessly, and thats by TODAYS standards.
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Nvidia 6600 256 mb AGP
AMD 2400 xp
1g 2700 ram
768 dsl
..yea, im not to snazzy..yet i can play on balanced , but generally leave it on a modified high performance, and everything still looks great and runs well.
There are some very nice optimization guides out there, you should look into it.
I have no doubt that if i had another gig of ram that things would be much better, eq2 has a ram footprint of about 650-800 megs, leaves little breathing room with windows , often i have only 50megs available of that 1g when eq2 is running. 1.5 is really the best min for this game, 2 would be better.
It doesnt take top of the line to run this game and have it look good, higher end just makes it look better. looks perfectly nice for me on my system on high performance, heat bloom enabled, flora enabled, and sometimes i tweak textures if Im in the mood.
If i cant play the game at those settings then you cant either. If 2 players start casting spells with those settings your computer will explode. Sure, EQ2 looks good for screenshots but unless you have dual 7800gtx 512mb SLI and 4 gigs of dual channel ram then no, you wont be able to play at anytihng above "balanced" if you want to maintain a decent framerate. Dont put false hopes into peoples heads mate, you need a 5000$ computer to run EQ2 flawlessly, and thats by TODAYS standards.
I hate to break it to ya, but I can play on extreme quality with barely any lag now anywhere but the ruins. I just leave it on high quality because it looks good enough. I turn off all non-essential services which helps a lot and yes, I play on high quality and get a great framerate and the game looks ****ing sensational.
Processor: Amd Athlon 2600 1.93 ghz
Ram: 2 gig sticks pc2700
Card: Radeon X800 pro
No startup programs or non-essential services running is a big key too. And so you know, those screenshots looked a hell of a lot better on my screen in motion.
Yeah right, you see it 's a totally different set of code from the isle to the mainland. They actually wrote two whole programs, that's why the isle doesn't stutter...
(You guys can tell when I'm being sarcastic by now right?)
The truth is if you didn't stutter on the isle you won't stutter on the mainland. IT'S THE SAME CODE. Let's not forget the fact that the problem has been fixed for about 8months now so if you do stutter, you didn't follow the directions on the forums.
I think the OP's real problem is he needs to get off of dial up if he wants to continue to play MMO's (If it took him 6+ hours to download and 10% of his time is loading, than he is on dial up).
"As for bad memory management, thousands of players are experiencing this issue, where crossing X amount of zones in-game causes massive memory loads on your machine, regardless of whether you have x amount of RAM."
Really?!?! Thousands? Then why are you the only one complaining?
SOE have addressed this issue, and they recommend you roll your Forceware drivers back to a much earlier version, this is bad practice if you want to get the most out of your graphics card for the new titles released.
Yes, because we all know that when video drivers are released they NEVER have bugs in them (you're getting better at picking up my sarcasm aren't you?)
Yes every system will have trouble running EQII at it's highest settings, that is by design. There is even a pop up that will tell you this if you took the time to read it. They've designed the game for future expansion. There are no computers on the market today that can run the game reliably at max settings. This is so 5 years from now, the graphics won't look so outdated. It's by design not a flaw in programing.
I guess your completly forgeting the rampant memmory leaks that SOE never managed to fix on EQ2? especialy if you have zoned many times during a session.
When the poster said thousands complained about it, he was right. Its a common problem in the game, ask in the general chat about the memmory leak and see what kind of responses you get jodokai, then you would not have to come here and make a fool of yourself.
Another thing, try pressing ctrl+alt+del and seeing how much memmory EQ2 is using after a 2-3 hours session. You will be amazed :P
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I play currently and have none of the problems stated by anyone in this thread. EQ2 is a hard on computers and I think most people are used to WoW and then try EQ2 and they're like "wtfbbq WoWzors played fine on my comp! EQ2 suxxxorzz!" Well guess what? This isn't WoW, there is bump mapping and some actual dynamic lighting and effects and if your computer isn't up to snuff then you can't play it on the higher settings.
But oh when you upgrade your computer you are in for a treat.
Liar.
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