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Blizzard Ripping off people from Australia?

sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
So i was gonna buy overwatch however when i seethe game was $70 dollar for the basic game for the Australian audience and $40 US for the America Playerbase the conversion rate didnt seem right so i checked the conversion rate which is $40 US = $55Au so im like ok wonder what the conversion rate for other countries area.

When u select countries
US $40= $55.21 Australian
South Korean Won 45,000 = $52.38 Australian
New Taiwan Dollar 1,300 = $55 Australian
Euro $40 = $61.53 Australian

Like serious its kinda stupid why not let us pay the converted price of the US value like you do for everyone else around the world. I can select New Zealand for country and it be $40 us Dollars 
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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100
    edited June 2016
    That's just one of the great things about living in Australia. Good beaches, warm weather, deadly sharks, snakes, and spiders; and games and computer gear that cost twice as much as in the US.

    Edit: oh yeah I forgot - high ping...
    ....
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    Haven't they always been charging other areas more for their products?
  • koira1koira1 Member UncommonPosts: 264
    isnt the tax law in australia quite different from rest of the world on digital goods like games and such? i might be misremembering it tho..
  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    I can understand of the game was a physical copy due to shipping but a digitial version should be nothing extra. Like New Zealand pays the $40 US cause its too small of a market for blizzard to be bothered with extorting.
  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,504
    something weird is going on blizzard doesn't usually mark up other than exchange rate differences and if you look at origin edition

    Origin Edition
    $60US - $89.95AU

    exchange - $60US = $82.85AU

    so there is only a $7 mark up on the origin edition but on the standard edition it's more like $15... which again is still weird, because most blizzard games i've never paid an intentional mark up on it's only been the exchange difference
  • OptimisticHappyGuyOptimisticHappyGuy Member CommonPosts: 4
    sanshi44 said:
    too small of a market for blizzard to be bothered with extorting.
    Uh, no.

    Think about it some more.
  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,504
    YashaX said:
    That's just one of the great things about living in Australia. Good beaches, warm weather, deadly sharks, snakes, and spiders; and games and computer gear that cost twice as much as in the US.

    Edit: oh yeah I forgot - high ping...
    as witty as you trying to be, it's freezing in melbourne at the moment, i have never seen 1 shark in all the times i've been to the beach, in my life outside of zoos etc... i've seen 2 snakes, spiders are everywhere i don't really have any giant ones where i am, i earn enough money for it not to mean anything

    and on blizzards servers i get like 13ms with 100/40 fiber, which should be soon getting upgraded to 200/200... so i mean it's not all bad especially living in the suburbs
  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,504
    koira1 said:
    isnt the tax law in australia quite different from rest of the world on digital goods like games and such? i might be misremembering it tho..

    there is no tax on digital purchases.. it's seller descretion, i buy plenty of games online at the sale price + currency conversion, on pretty much most blizzard games it's been the same.. WoW / D3 / HoTS... it only seems to be on overwatch they did this
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    edited June 2016
    As long as I can remember any company has always used unfair conversion rates for Australia.
    I think the Brits are usually 2nd in line to get screwed over.

    I remember Final Fantasy 11 gave me the option to pay in € from now on rather than $ to bypass the conversion fee of my bank. I happily agreed back then - not knowing that they just changed the $ on the bill with € now...
    Over night my subscription became 40% more expensive. (back then)
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  • SeelinnikoiSeelinnikoi Member RarePosts: 1,360
    You guys never heard of digital shops?

    I buy all my games in such shops and they cost a tiny tiny fraction of what they would cost buying from blizzard or a retail shop.

    Diablo 3 with the expansion, cost me 17 euros... and thats just an example.
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  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,504
    You guys never heard of digital shops?

    I buy all my games in such shops and they cost a tiny tiny fraction of what they would cost buying from blizzard or a retail shop.

    Diablo 3 with the expansion, cost me 17 euros... and thats just an example.
    thats still like $35AU lol it was cheaper on sale through blizzard the other week
  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    edited June 2016
    mbrodie said:
    something weird is going on blizzard doesn't usually mark up other than exchange rate differences and if you look at origin edition

    Origin Edition
    $60US - $89.95AU

    exchange - $60US = $82.85AU

    so there is only a $7 mark up on the origin edition but on the standard edition it's more like $15... which again is still weird, because most blizzard games i've never paid an intentional mark up on it's only been the exchange difference
    Its like this for every one of blizzards games australian pay an extra $10-30 for every single one of there games after conversion

    I have no issues playing conversion rates however im not gonna pay conversion + extra for a digital copy. Physical i dont mind paying extra due to shipping costs.
  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,504
    edited June 2016
    sanshi44 said:
    mbrodie said:
    something weird is going on blizzard doesn't usually mark up other than exchange rate differences and if you look at origin edition

    Origin Edition
    $60US - $89.95AU

    exchange - $60US = $82.85AU

    so there is only a $7 mark up on the origin edition but on the standard edition it's more like $15... which again is still weird, because most blizzard games i've never paid an intentional mark up on it's only been the exchange difference
    Its like this for every one of blizzards games australian pay an extra $10-30 for every single one of there games after conversion

    I have no issues playing conversion rates however im not gonna pay conversion + extra for a digital copy. Physical i dont mind paying extra due to shipping costs.

    that isnt true....

    World of Warcraft Legion : Digital Deluxe
    $70US - $94.95AU

    converted
    70US is $96.65

    and i've spent over $380 in HoTS and all of it has been just currency rate more than the US price.

    it's only been like this with overwatch, i'm looking at all the money i've spent on blizzard games in my account settings, and none of my purchases have been marked up $10 - $30 compared to the US rate
  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    mbrodie said:
    sanshi44 said:
    mbrodie said:
    something weird is going on blizzard doesn't usually mark up other than exchange rate differences and if you look at origin edition

    Origin Edition
    $60US - $89.95AU

    exchange - $60US = $82.85AU

    so there is only a $7 mark up on the origin edition but on the standard edition it's more like $15... which again is still weird, because most blizzard games i've never paid an intentional mark up on it's only been the exchange difference
    Its like this for every one of blizzards games australian pay an extra $10-30 for every single one of there games after conversion

    I have no issues playing conversion rates however im not gonna pay conversion + extra for a digital copy. Physical i dont mind paying extra due to shipping costs.

    that isnt true....

    World of Warcraft Legion : Digital Deluxe
    $70US - $94.95AU

    converted
    70US is $96.65

    and i've spent over $380 in HoTS and all of it has been just currency rate more than the US price.

    it's only been like this with overwatch, i'm looking at all the money i've spent on blizzard games in my account settings, and none of my purchases have been marked up $10 - $30 compared to the US rate
    I was checking with newer starcraft 2 prices and was using taiwan/korean as a check mark because if i set store to US/Oceanic i get australian prices instead of US. Taiwan/Korean pricing for SC2 stuff seems to be much cheaper than that AU prices.
  • SeelinnikoiSeelinnikoi Member RarePosts: 1,360
    mbrodie said:
    You guys never heard of digital shops?

    I buy all my games in such shops and they cost a tiny tiny fraction of what they would cost buying from blizzard or a retail shop.

    Diablo 3 with the expansion, cost me 17 euros... and thats just an example.
    thats still like $35AU lol it was cheaper on sale through blizzard the other week
    Nope, because that is the base game AND expansion... you must be seeing only either price... I am talking about BOTH.
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  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    Got a response from blizzard customer support on the matter and there pretty much you get paid more so we can take more money, except for countries that get paid less than US they have to pay equivelent to $40 US for our stuff.
    Like that can be understanable if they were lowering the price for the country that have less income than adverage income of the US but it just seems they wanna be greedy and instead take what they can and not give back.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    sanshi44 said:
    mbrodie said:
    something weird is going on blizzard doesn't usually mark up other than exchange rate differences and if you look at origin edition

    Origin Edition
    $60US - $89.95AU

    exchange - $60US = $82.85AU

    so there is only a $7 mark up on the origin edition but on the standard edition it's more like $15... which again is still weird, because most blizzard games i've never paid an intentional mark up on it's only been the exchange difference
    Its like this for every one of blizzards games australian pay an extra $10-30 for every single one of there games after conversion

    I have no issues playing conversion rates however im not gonna pay conversion + extra for a digital copy. Physical i dont mind paying extra due to shipping costs.
    Even with shipping costs:

    How many physical copies could you fit in a 40ft container? It's about $1800.00 to ship a 40ft container from LA to Sydney.

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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,407
    edited June 2016
    Living in Europe I get charged when I order stuff from the States and I have to pay extra when they deliver the item for some surcharge or other so I feel sorry for you guys Down Under. 

    When I was living in Singapore I ordered a DVD of a BBC series and the Customs wanted to watch the video before allowing me to get it and I would have had to pay them the manpower to watch my DVD. Needless to say I decided they could keep it and went back to Malaysia and reordered it.
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  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    Again this is just for a digital copy of the game so they dont even need to pay for the shipping cost if cost them no addition money

    Here what the support team got back to me with:

    As for the differences in pricing, our customer support is not part of that decision, so I can't tell you the exact reasons. However, from my own experience, here are some factors that likely played into that:
    1. Wages in Australia are a lot better than most other country's such as the US and UK.
    2. Transportation Costs (for physical copies), Australia is far away from the bulk of the developed world and shipping costs will be expensive. :/
    3. This also effects digital copies of the game, as they need to compete with the importing costs for retailers. Retail might may refuse to sell games for which the publisher sells the game cheaper then they can afford to due to the import costs. If you are interested in further reading about this, I woukd suggest the following: https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1cjeez/eli5_why_do_video_games_cost_so_much_in_australia/ Kind Regards, Game Master Schavinoss Customer Support Blizzard Entertainment http://us.battle.net/support/
  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    I always love the "ripping off Australia" posts.  Because every game/special edition/console gets one.  Ignoring the fact that you live on an ISLAND (well continent that's basically an island) that needs to be SHIPPED or FLOWN IN.  And then complain.  

    It's like people in Hawaii wondering why milk is 12 bucks a gallon or people in Bahrain wondering why KFC is 10 bucks for a 1 piece meal.

    As I recall the AUD is not equivalent to the USD so using a direct conversion is silly but it also doesn't take into account shipping and taxes which the government does put on some of these companies (not to mention the need to certify the game for certain audiences and whatnot that also costs money).
  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    edited June 2016
    Ikeda said:
    I always love the "ripping off Australia" posts.  Because every game/special edition/console gets one.  Ignoring the fact that you live on an ISLAND (well continent that's basically an island) that needs to be SHIPPED or FLOWN IN.  And then complain.  

    It's like people in Hawaii wondering why milk is 12 bucks a gallon or people in Bahrain wondering why KFC is 10 bucks for a 1 piece meal.

    As I recall the AUD is not equivalent to the USD so using a direct conversion is silly but it also doesn't take into account shipping and taxes which the government does put on some of these companies (not to mention the need to certify the game for certain audiences and whatnot that also costs money).
    The price difference is for a DIGITAL version fo the game no shipping posting imortanting involved there absolutly no addition cost for an digital version of overwatch or any game from blizard but they still charge you extra and there support team only thing they could relay think of was we get paid more.....

    No other game company i have found has charge extra for selling a digital version of the game to somone in Australia but blizzard.
    If it was a physical copy that acualy cost them more then yes its understandable.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    edited June 2016
    I believe that there is standardized pricing that is carried across the board, no? 

    Like a new console game in AU is like $100. That's regardless of the current exchange rate. Same deal with Canada, it's like $80 for a new game regardless of the exchange rate. Then in the rates change there is some play, until such a time that the base price for that country requires adjustment. So when the exchange rates are in the favor of the companies, they'll make more money, I'm assuming. When it isn't, then they won't make as much money. There was a time when the CAD was exchanging higher than the USD, but Canadians were still spending more than an American for a new game. Game prices don't fluctuate with the ever-changing economy. 

    Oh!!! Idea! We should just have a single currency for the entire world!!! We'll call it the USD. 

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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
  • sup3riorsup3rior Member UncommonPosts: 6
    edited June 2016
    sanshi44 said:
    The price difference is for a DIGITAL version fo the game no shipping posting imortanting involved there absolutly no addition cost for an digital version of overwatch or any game from blizard but they still charge you extra and there support team only thing they could relay think of was we get paid more.....

    No other game company i have found has charge extra for selling a digital version of the game to somone in Australia but blizzard.
    If it was a physical copy that acualy cost them more then yes its understandable.
    Dude, at least make the minimum effort of actually reading what they wrote you back.

    Since you obviously need someone poinnting it out for you:
    This also effects digital copies of the game [...] Retail might may refuse to sell games for which the publisher sells the game cheaper then they can afford to due to the import costs.
    Makes sense doesn't it? I would not sell a game in my store (I don't own a store) if the producer of the product sells it cheaper (not talking subsidiaries, franchises or company stores, but stores with a choice).

    That is also why you can buy old games - that aren't relevant to retail - or ingame purchases (like Hearthstone packs) for a price quite near to the actual conversion rate.
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Horusra said:
    Yea a company like Blizzard doesn't seem to do things like this.  It has to do with taxing and fees they are trying to cover those costs and unfortunately for AU its a bit more.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
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