"Private Facebook" refers to a personal account, IE a human as opposed to a business.
If you read my first post properly you would have noticed back there I did give a proper explanation of fair use and transformative work.
You've also expanded the claim now to apply to more websites than originally stated. If CIG actually stuck the image onto their Facebook or home page, then there's a valid point to your claim. if it's on the woman's Facebook and Twitter however, you do not.
Next time you respond, try reading the responses first.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
OMG this is big news here. If CIG has used this artwork without permission. Really they can't afford to pay someone 50$ for a picture?
Not the first time and probably not the last. A Kickstarter campaign for a board game was found to have used multiple stolen art assets. While its for something outside the company I believe the person who did the art is an employee of CIG.
It's something a lot of people do all the time without even thinking about it. Do you think I have permission to use the Ultraman avatar I grabbed from the site? No.
People torrent movies, games, programs, and photos all the time. There is almost always some justification for it. Do you think Derek Smart asked Warner Brothers for permission to use their Wile E Coyote image as his avatar? No he stole it. He pirated it. As have everyone else using protected images, without permission, in their avatars and signatures. Using a protected image in public fora on the internet falls outside of personal use. It's hypocrisy and irony wrapped up in one when an offender points the finger.
I have several photographer acquaintances and they tell me this sort of thing happens all the time to them. They usually email the offender and ask them to pay for the photo or remove it. The more legit people do. The jerks and pirates don't.
All that needs to happen here, if they indeed haven't paid for the art, is for them to pay for it or remove it. Then they need to have a training session, audit assets, and move forward.
The difference between using artwork for an avatar and what's ostensibly happened here is that I don't think anyone expects people to pass off avatars as their own work (although this really is my face - I don't remember where I got the image of stars coming out of it, though).
Sure, maybe this is just a stock photo on some anonymous corporation's website, and maybe this is all just another storm in a teacup.
...still though: how hard is it just to snap a photo of Sandi and go with that?
...and my main point is that it's really illuminating what lengths some people will go to to defend CIG, claiming people are trying to 'stretch the glove' when @rpcmcmurphy 's gif makes it even clearer that this was a photoshopped, uncredited asset being used for profit.
I'd rather avoid any tu quoques, but it's just an example of how much cognitive dissonance has surrounded this project so far, thanks in no small part to its fans. I guess I'm just opposed to seeing people get verbally beaten down for taking up criticism, regardless of whether or not it has any grounding in reality.
Take from it what you will.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar Authored 139 missions in VendettaOnline and 6 tracks in Distance
Looks like they took that image off the concept sales page. I wanted to actually check the image they had on their website to see of the issue was visible on the RSi website. But it's gone now.
For those saying this isn't watermarked. What was shown here is a watermarked image that someone did a crap job removing. I am an artist, I teach this crap at a university. I have frequently used watermarked images to create art...just not professionally. If I am using them for a job, I use the watermarked version to see if the image singable for what I need. If timid, I go buy the stock image and use the clean, legal version.
if I remember watching an interview on ATV, this would have been the doing of the concept artist they interviewed...I think they even made a point to talk about how he likes to add people into his concept images. I can't remember his name. As much as the hate brigade want to blame this on CIG, this freelance concept artist is the blame...unless he actually told,CIG what he did and they used it anyways, which I seriously doubt.
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone www.spankybus.com -3d Artist & Compositor -Writer -Professional Amature
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If you read my first post properly you would have noticed back there I did give a proper explanation of fair use and transformative work.
You've also expanded the claim now to apply to more websites than originally stated. If CIG actually stuck the image onto their Facebook or home page, then there's a valid point to your claim. if it's on the woman's Facebook and Twitter however, you do not.
Next time you respond, try reading the responses first.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
Sure, maybe this is just a stock photo on some anonymous corporation's website, and maybe this is all just another storm in a teacup.
...still though: how hard is it just to snap a photo of Sandi and go with that?
...and my main point is that it's really illuminating what lengths some people will go to to defend CIG, claiming people are trying to 'stretch the glove' when @rpcmcmurphy 's gif makes it even clearer that this was a photoshopped, uncredited asset being used for profit.
I'd rather avoid any tu quoques, but it's just an example of how much cognitive dissonance has surrounded this project so far, thanks in no small part to its fans. I guess I'm just opposed to seeing people get verbally beaten down for taking up criticism, regardless of whether or not it has any grounding in reality.
Take from it what you will.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
For those saying this isn't watermarked. What was shown here is a watermarked image that someone did a crap job removing. I am an artist, I teach this crap at a university. I have frequently used watermarked images to create art...just not professionally. If I am using them for a job, I use the watermarked version to see if the image singable for what I need. If timid, I go buy the stock image and use the clean, legal version.
if I remember watching an interview on ATV, this would have been the doing of the concept artist they interviewed...I think they even made a point to talk about how he likes to add people into his concept images. I can't remember his name. As much as the hate brigade want to blame this on CIG, this freelance concept artist is the blame...unless he actually told,CIG what he did and they used it anyways, which I seriously doubt.
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone
www.spankybus.com
-3d Artist & Compositor
-Writer
-Professional Amature