It takes time but you can buy everything in cash shop via rex (making ingame money to buy the REX). all content and 4 of the classes are playable to cap, primalist you have to buy which honestly isn't all that great imo (plus they said they were going to release 4 souls to catch up to the previous but....well they didnt). The true problem with rift and I suppose Trion as a whole is that they are just lazy. Bugs in rift can take weeks/months/years (no joke, some bugs are still there even when it was p2p) to fix.
The only thing fun about Rift is their housing system. PVP is meh, the leveling is also very derivative I guess some of the dungeons might be good for those who like it. But seriously it is dated and not a lot of fun right now. I do really wish BDO or any other MMO would copy their housing system. I just love that and played Rift for months for that only. P.S. Also spent quite a bit in the cash shop for the housing system. Some other games should pick up on that for their monetization .
I once found a house to enter and it had this starwars theme going on..it was awsome detailed...he or they had made a perfect looking starwars museum out of all these house items...emagination right there
Guess you missed the part where they had all the essentials: primalist, both soul packs, some bag slots, earrings, and planewalker water all for $50.00? It was a promo they have had running for two weeks. Only thing missing was the newly released soul pack. In my opinion it should be a more permanent thing and its mind boggling why this is not up on the site you linked.
I kind of got an itch to give Rift another try. However, after looking at the store, it seems to have a pretty high cost of admission for a game that no longer gets much hype and probably has a greatly diminished player base. Am I reading this right, that to get the full experience with all the callings/souls, you're paying a minimum of $150?
The $150 is essentially a collectors edition. Actually it is the same price I paid each for my SWTOR and GW2 collectors edition back in the day (x2 because the wife wanted them too). I thought the WoW, ESO, NWN, and EQ2 collectors editions were the same price too. So this is sounding pretty standard.
If you subscribe do you get all the DLC \'s and Expansions automatically, like ESO?
No, you get nothing. You also get no credits per month. They recently reduced the stuff free players get to make subbing 'more attractive'.
I wouldn't say nothing. Patron bonuses even before the nerf to FP is (was) really nice. That 40% adds up to a huge time saver. An additional 40% EXP, PA EXP, coin, marks, & notoriety. The quick access to ports, banks, guild banks, etc. anywhere in the world. I've tried it without it and it hurts, LOL. If you have never been patron or take advantage of the perks then you don't realize the difference. It's like the difference between dial up (FTP) and broadband (patron). Even then you technically don't need to pay money to become a patron, just farm plat and buy a couple of REX from another player.
Rift's population is still quite healthy. You'll get access to more content for your buck than any other game out there (which is technically a divide-by-zero problem since you have access to ALL content for free).
And the dimension system... You can model just about anything you can think up. Google it, people have done amazingly creative things. And no matter what disgruntled players try to tell you, you DONT have to spend real cash to get into dimensioneering.
EQ2. WAY more content than Rift for free. You don't have ALL the content, but you still have probably more than triple Rift's content (of course EQ2 is much older). EQ2's f2p does have some restrictions on equipping top tiers of gear and spells (which is unnecessary for most of the content) which may put some off.
Also, EQ2 is where Rift's dimensions came from. I personally prefer EQ2's, more tools to work with and I like EQ2's aesthetics better (although you can build whatever you want in both games really) but Rift did a fine job copying it and integrating it into their game and eventually put their own spin on it. You certainly dont need the cash shop for either game's housing.
Not saying Rift isnt worth a shot, but saying things like 'access to more content for your buck than any other game' is flat out incorrect.
The pay wall in rift does not seem to be anywhere near as nasty and horrible as Archeage. The patron in rift is nice and has some decent perks but the game is still playable without it. The big complaint for most people was the ability to purchase gear out of the cash shop which is super expensive on top of having the patron. It is like Trion is double dipping into peoples pockets. DMK made a comment about someone in BDO running up a $500 bill (not sure on what) but in comparison rift charges around $800 for a set of tier armor. This, on top of the gamble boxes, rex, soul packs and patron they charge for. If you do go back I would wait before spending any money. This way you can figure out if you want to stay and play or not. And more important, do some research on what souls you might want to get if that is what you are thinking about. I say this because they will always have a new shinny thing coming out and the game is playable without the latest and greatest souls.
Paying over 150 $ for a game No fucking way...this game wont last until 2017
Hahahahaha !
You been living under a rock these last few years ?
Nowadays, people spend $150 just on Early Access stuff and Founder Packs, and that's just a warm-up before the game even launches !
Modern players flatly refuse to spend $15 per month on a subscription, they insist on having the option to spend $100 per month in the cash shop. Completely voluntary, of course, but it's amazing how many volunteers there are, lol
Rift was fun for awhile. It just never caught on. The f2p plan they had was good but now i think Trion must be hurting for money. They just gave away so much stuff in that game.
Not only for RIFT they've changed things for the worst... Deviance has had it's old 'Veteran status' for previous owners of the P2P/B2P version of the game nerved to the max as well making it virtually impossible to play the game without taking the patron status. Same shit for ArcheAge for those who bought the $150 package back in the day.
TRION is by now one of the most aggressive 'Free2Play' publishers, pushing you into patron status for all of their games by making it almost impossible to enjoy playing their games without paying money
Yeah. I'm just not seeing how another game that was forced to go F2P can charge at this high level for DLC/expansions, whatever you want to call them. I mean, shouldn't their new DLC be like $30, not $80? I guess their marketing guys say otherwise.
Again Rift DLC is not an expansion - those are 100% free - DLC in Rift is only new souls - there is no content gated behind a paywall period in Rift.
the new class is gated behind a paywall? i'm not just talking about the 4 new souls for the existing classes i'm specifically speaking about Primalist, which i cannot play without purchasing it and the "calling" is like $40 on it's own... i'm not generally one to split hairs as i own basically all the "digital collectors" editions they have released over the years, but saying that nothing is locked behind a paywall is incorrect....
if i was a new player i would not be able to login and play a primalist.
I also play Rift. As to how much you have to pay to play endgame stuff? It's right around $0. You do NOT need the new souls. I'm playing endgame stuff, and I certainly didn't buy the new souls. Sure, I can't play a Primalist, but then again, that would just end up being an alt anyway. In the past I have obtained an expansion or two, but again, it wasn't necessary. Even the new earring slots and plane of water attunement can be attained in game for in game currencies if you don't want to buy that particular expansion, which isn't even the latest and has or will be going down in price most likely. Of course, if you do want to spend real money to speed things up, you have another option even without buying the expansion. You can get the important parts of it with individual purchases.
As to the mention of somebody quoting $150, they must be talking about the Ultimate Rift Edition, which is basically the collectors megabox of all the other other expansions dlc goodies packages. (Mounts, souls, minion slots, etc.) Never take the high end collection as a price comparison. That's like asking how much does a 6 pack of beer cost and getting told the case price for champagne.
I kind of got an itch to give Rift another try. However, after looking at the store, it seems to have a pretty high cost of admission for a game that no longer gets much hype and probably has a greatly diminished player base. Am I reading this right, that to get the full experience with all the callings/souls, you're paying a minimum of $150?
Heres the quick and simple truth. Stay away from ANYTHING that TRION has anything to do with. Plain and simple.
Their resume is a laundry list of utter garbage and failures (Archeage anyone?) and RIFT is nothing more then a putrid shell of what the game once was a LONG time ago as a sub based game before Scott Hartsman left and the game went on a downhill slide faster then the Oilers in the regular season.
I kind of got an itch to give Rift another try. However, after looking at the store, it seems to have a pretty high cost of admission for a game that no longer gets much hype and probably has a greatly diminished player base. Am I reading this right, that to get the full experience with all the callings/souls, you're paying a minimum of $150?
Heres the quick and simple truth. Stay away from ANYTHING that TRION has anything to do with. Plain and simple.
Their resume is a laundry list of utter garbage and failures (Archeage anyone?) and RIFT is nothing more then a putrid shell of what the game once was a LONG time ago as a sub based game before Scott Hartsman left and the game went on a downhill slide faster then the Oilers in the regular season.
only problem, Hartsman is Trions CEO now...so if you wanna blame anyone for Trions sucking model, blame him...
And Rift was AMAZING towards the end of SL, NT was the first hit on the last nail...
I kind of got an itch to give Rift another try. However, after looking at the store, it seems to have a pretty high cost of admission for a game that no longer gets much hype and probably has a greatly diminished player base. Am I reading this right, that to get the full experience with all the callings/souls, you're paying a minimum of $150?
Don't buy the 80$ pack, it is nonsense. If you want to fresh start, then create a completely new account which was never attached to anything Trion. Then go to store and buy the 50$ essential pack that gives :
1. Ear ring slot 2. Planewalker water 3. Storm legion souls 4. Nightmare souls 5. Primalist calling 6. 3.6 souls
For 50 $ it is a bargain. And don't worry about restarting, with instant adventure leveling is super fast. And after a couple of normal dungeon run from 60-65 you will have all the gear you need to enter expert dungeon.
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And don't worry about restarting, with instant adventure leveling is super fast. And after a couple of normal dungeon run from 60-65 you will have all the gear you need to enter expert dungeon.
And this right here is one of the things thats so wrong with this genre these days...And also shows that developers have no clue.
Throttle all your meaningful character development into simply 'repeat mindless kill tasks' for a few days and bingo, you are max level and onto the gear grind.
And you also dont give a shit about your character and leave just as fast as you came...
(this is a genre wide issue, not a Rift/Trion issue, although IAs are pretty much the most mindless MMORPG 'feature' ever)
And don't worry about restarting, with instant adventure leveling is super fast. And after a couple of normal dungeon run from 60-65 you will have all the gear you need to enter expert dungeon.
And this right here is one of the things thats so wrong with this genre these days...And also shows that developers have no clue.
Throttle all your meaningful character development into simply 'repeat mindless kill tasks' for a few days and bingo, you are max level and onto the gear grind.
And you also dont give a shit about your character and leave just as fast as you came...
(this is a genre wide issue, not a Rift/Trion issue, although IAs are pretty much the most mindless MMORPG 'feature' ever)
LOL! IA's is personally my favorite feature! I've had a lot of fun doing instant adventures and zone events in Rift. IA's require quick thinking and working together with your raid group; the only way I could see someone saying it's "mindless" is if they are going AFK and not helping the group. Yes, for some it may be repetitive, but it's far from "mindless" if you're actually participating in them.
"I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." ~ C. S. Lewis
The truth is, people are just angry with Trion. Rift is one of Trion's best; there is still a lot of fun that can be had in Rift. I completely agree that ArcheAge is P2W, but Rift certainly isn't! I've had more fun in Rift than I had to pay for. You don't have to buy the new souls, and if you were vigilant, you could have been like me and purchased the earring slots for only 600p. I didn't buy the Nightmare Tide; I don't need Planewalker; my gear is better than what I could have used with Planewalker. If you are willing to work for it, you can get far in the game, without spending real life money, it's still very much a F2P game. You are not forced to buy anything! I have been playing Rift for 2+ years, so believe me, I know.
That being said, everyone knows that you should support the games that you have fun playing. Just because a game is F2P, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't spend a dime.
"I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." ~ C. S. Lewis
Something I had just discovered if anyone is interested. When rift went f2p I had noticed that they cut back on the bank space they gave you and made you purchase extra slots. When I reinstalled the game last night I saw they doubled the bank space you get. I am not sure the reason for this if it had anything to do with me buying some of their packages last year. But they did double my bank space and they are giving away some free gifts when you log in. My char is still lvl 60 but I got a couple of chest with 60 stuff and one for 65. In the lvl 60 chests I got some free raid lvl gear, potions and 2 mounts. The lvl 65 chest I was not able to open yet.
Something I had just discovered if anyone is interested. When rift went f2p I had noticed that they cut back on the bank space they gave you and made you purchase extra slots. When I reinstalled the game last night I saw they doubled the bank space you get. I am not sure the reason for this if it had anything to do with me buying some of their packages last year. But they did double my bank space and they are giving away some free gifts when you log in. My char is still lvl 60 but I got a couple of chest with 60 stuff and one for 65. In the lvl 60 chests I got some free raid lvl gear, potions and 2 mounts. The lvl 65 chest I was not able to open yet.
Yeah, they recently increased the bank space for everyone; not just for patrons. They also started the daily rewards calendar (it's been going for a couple months); you can get helpful gifts, like stones for upgrading your gear and other various items. The potions, mounts, and gear that you received, they gave to players months ago; I'm glad that you were still able to claim them in the Rift store. Once you reach lv 65, you will get a nice lv 65 trinket for your class, and you will receive another mount from the lv 65 chest, the "Quick Frost Valmera Collar".
"I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." ~ C. S. Lewis
I play from time to time when they have special discounts for stuff going on and I've never seen it empty. I always see other players around. Not crowed, but not empty. It's an OK generic game. Best time to get DLC's is when they have a sale which they do from time to time. I usually play for a short while but get bored.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
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Also, EQ2 is where Rift's dimensions came from. I personally prefer EQ2's, more tools to work with and I like EQ2's aesthetics better (although you can build whatever you want in both games really) but Rift did a fine job copying it and integrating it into their game and eventually put their own spin on it. You certainly dont need the cash shop for either game's housing.
Not saying Rift isnt worth a shot, but saying things like 'access to more content for your buck than any other game' is flat out incorrect.
You been living under a rock these last few years ?
Nowadays, people spend $150 just on Early Access stuff and Founder Packs, and that's just a warm-up before the game even launches !
Modern players flatly refuse to spend $15 per month on a subscription, they insist on having the option to spend $100 per month in the cash shop. Completely voluntary, of course, but it's amazing how many volunteers there are, lol
TRION is by now one of the most aggressive 'Free2Play' publishers, pushing you into patron status for all of their games by making it almost impossible to enjoy playing their games without paying money
the new class is gated behind a paywall? i'm not just talking about the 4 new souls for the existing classes i'm specifically speaking about Primalist, which i cannot play without purchasing it and the "calling" is like $40 on it's own... i'm not generally one to split hairs as i own basically all the "digital collectors" editions they have released over the years, but saying that nothing is locked behind a paywall is incorrect....
if i was a new player i would not be able to login and play a primalist.
As to how much you have to pay to play endgame stuff? It's right around $0.
You do NOT need the new souls. I'm playing endgame stuff, and I certainly didn't buy the new souls. Sure, I can't play a Primalist, but then again, that would just end up being an alt anyway.
In the past I have obtained an expansion or two, but again, it wasn't necessary. Even the new earring slots and plane of water attunement can be attained in game for in game currencies if you don't want to buy that particular expansion, which isn't even the latest and has or will be going down in price most likely. Of course, if you do want to spend real money to speed things up, you have another option even without buying the expansion. You can get the important parts of it with individual purchases.
As to the mention of somebody quoting $150, they must be talking about the Ultimate Rift Edition, which is basically the collectors megabox of all the other other expansions dlc goodies packages. (Mounts, souls, minion slots, etc.)
Never take the high end collection as a price comparison. That's like asking how much does a 6 pack of beer cost and getting told the case price for champagne.
Lost my mind, now trying to lose yours...
Their resume is a laundry list of utter garbage and failures (Archeage anyone?) and RIFT is nothing more then a putrid shell of what the game once was a LONG time ago as a sub based game before Scott Hartsman left and the game went on a downhill slide faster then the Oilers in the regular season.
And Rift was AMAZING towards the end of SL, NT was the first hit on the last nail...
1. Ear ring slot
2. Planewalker water
3. Storm legion souls
4. Nightmare souls
5. Primalist calling
6. 3.6 souls
For 50 $ it is a bargain. And don't worry about restarting, with instant adventure leveling is super fast. And after a couple of normal dungeon run from 60-65 you will have all the gear you need to enter expert dungeon.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Throttle all your meaningful character development into simply 'repeat mindless kill tasks' for a few days and bingo, you are max level and onto the gear grind.
And you also dont give a shit about your character and leave just as fast as you came...
(this is a genre wide issue, not a Rift/Trion issue, although IAs are pretty much the most mindless MMORPG 'feature' ever)
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey