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Buff Bot disgust
jhall229
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After dumping well over 100 hours into my ranger sniper, i was told by a long-time veteran friend of mine that I will get pummeled in RVR with a buff-bot. I dont like the idea of bots, nor do I think ANY game was created with the idea of using them. I think they are too accepted as "part of the game" in DAOC. I am contimplating quitting the game for this one reason. I wish I had know this before I started my ranger. 
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you invested 100 hours into you char and didnt know of the buffbot-issue? wtf ^^
Thats, btw, one of the reasons why Mythic introduced classic servers (almost no buffbotting possible there)
If your ranger were to get into a fight with a Inf that has a buffbot you will likely loose. But this is a melee fight and your primary weapon is a bow, so I would not worry about that. Buffbot matter more for certain classes than others. My NS will have a much harder time against a Inf that has a buffbot. If it is against a caster it doesn't matter the caster is going to die, it will just take 1 more hit.
As a ranger you can do large scale damage to tagets at a significant distance. You can get MoS which basically means once you get it to MoS 3+ you will be able to take out many assassins buffboted or not. Not that I have fought a ranger, but on my NS (w/ or w/o buffs) I avoid scouts because the only have I have to win is if I get off my critical style (nearly impossible given MoS) and avoid the 8s shield slam.
Then you will have ranger groups. You can go out and use /assist with a couple other rangers and any target will drop very quickly.
There are ToA items which will increase your range and damage.
My guild is made up of mostly rangers. Some of them do not have buffbots and still do very well in RvR.
Understand that most people play in groups. Not everyone in a group has their own buffbot. Further, just because they have a buffbot does not make them impossible to kill. I would suggest you keep leveling, make sure you are RR 3+ and then go out to NF. You might want to get some ToA items as well before getting into things, but I die far more often becaue of realm abilities (or the lack of) than anything for ToA most of the time.
Erm
There's a very good FAQ right here on this site that discusses buff bots and the classic servers.
That said, archers don't need buff bots and buff bots don't really bother them as much as most other classes because their damage is done from range, with the element of surprise. It'll usually just mean you have to get 1 more shot in before running and hiding again to take down your target.
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I have a question about that. I noticed that on the classic servers you have to be close to the person who cast the buff on you or they cancel. Is that right?
If it is then why don't they just do that one thing on the regular servers? It would fix everything, I think. Wouldn't it?
By that you assume that Mythic does not want buffboting - which is not really true, per se. My guess is that about 15-25% of the money they earn with daoc comes from buffbot-accounts ^^
Yeah, I guess you're right.
I wonder if maybe the population would actually go up though. Imagine all the people that quit for that one reason coming back and playing again. A lot of people came back when they started the classical servers. And I'd hate to give up ToA but would like to see an end to the buffbot scourge too. They could try it on one server and see what happens.
Only 3% of the playerbase feels very strongly about 'buff bots'. No reason for them to implement that rule on the normal servers when a ton of people have 'bot' accounts. Probably as many as 50% of players on 'normal' servers carry at least 1 additional account that they use to bot with.
Those of us who detest Bots and/or TOA play on Classic Servers.
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Since they have servers where buff bott's aren't allowed (or at least highly impractical versus experienced RvR opponents) I don't really see a problem. Let those that enjoy massive time sinks and paying for multiple accounts to be competitive have their servers.
I will say, however, that I don't think the consequences of server choice seem to be clear enough to new players. It seems like I met a lot of newbies in game that didn't understand the full the implications of a server without the ToA expansion enabled and with a limited range on buffs. Not everyone is willing to say "Oh well" and start over on a new server once they get to 50 and discover they picked one that doesn't match their playstyle. There has to be some subscription turnover associated with this issue.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Actually at 50 it's not as much of a problem on the normal servers since you WILL be rolling with a group and you will either have buffers in the group or someone will break out a buff-bot for the group. It's a big issue in the BG's though (at lower levels) where people run around solo all the damn time and use their buff bot for buffs. By 35 (Molvik) it's no longer an issue really, though stealthers are always solo in Molv (if they're not in a stealth group), in those cases yes, buff bots are a problem if a non-botted stealther tries to take on one who has a bot.
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